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      Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate

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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #675: Dec 02, 2013 12:25:58 am
      Don't think that was the main problem.  More to do with our insipid midfield and our undersupplied forward line.

      But it's a regular problem.

      Drogba constantly caused us problems, Benteke caused us problems, Carlton f**king Cole ran us raggered last year, Lukaku causes us problems etc etc etc. Our centre halves, and it doesn't seem to matter which pair it is, struggle against the big burley centre forwards.
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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #676: Dec 02, 2013 12:32:51 am
      I've seen this before from us, not just under Brendan (and to be fair it doesn't happen as much to him as it has a whole host of recent managers) but we looked devoid of ideas today and failed to break down a very tight/compact defensive unit - credit to Hull and Bruce who has them reasonably well organised at the back.

      The credit to Hull doesn't take away the fact the this was our worst performance of the season and 10/11ths of the team looked s.hite and inept. We blew a chance to stay in second place today with a performance the players should be ashamed of. They couldn't even get into gear, they were stuck in fvcking neutral and paid the price.

      Midfield needs an overhaul, they are our Achilles heel.

      Norwich can't come soon enough.
      « Last Edit: Dec 02, 2013 12:49:39 am by Beerbelly »
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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #677: Dec 02, 2013 12:37:28 am
      Feel really depressed right now, just had a fight with my gf after the game as well... let's hope the manager can do something about it in the next game.
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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #678: Dec 02, 2013 12:39:02 am
      Feel really depressed right now, just had a fight with my gf after the game as well... let's hope the manager can do something about it in the next game.

      I agree Brendan should shoulder some of this blame, but asking him to do something about the problems you have with your girlfriend is a bit much to ask in my opinion.
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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #679: Dec 02, 2013 12:51:37 am
      After the game, I used google to see some space in the internet to pour  my anger out..

      I support the team and the manager,still..

      But that was a crap performance, did they get their payment in front or what? and not trying to do anything at all..

      They can't flow the ball forward when the scoreline was 1-1 , and I was thinking that might be a fitness level, and just live with it this week.

      BUT It became a more disappointment when after it's 2-1 they actually CAN attack, this probably tell us that the players need to be kicked to have a run.

      Next time I hope they play as motivated as like when they are in a losing scoreline from the very beginning!
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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #680: Dec 02, 2013 12:54:37 am
      I agree Brendan should shoulder some of this blame, but asking him to do something about the problems you have with your girlfriend is a bit much to ask in my opinion.

       :lmao:


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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #681: Dec 02, 2013 01:01:12 am
      I agree Brendan should shoulder some of this blame, but asking him to do something about the problems you have with your girlfriend is a bit much to ask in my opinion.

      Classic!
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      Reply #682: Dec 02, 2013 01:04:23 am
      Some of you guys need to get a reality check on two fronts.

      Some people saying things about Hull City being an average or poor team. Well we are in this league based on merit and so far this season have done very well. Besides beating Liverpool today we have also beaten the likes of Norwich, West Ham, Newcastle, Sunderland and the last time I checked we where still in the top half of the league.

      We have lost to Man City, Chelsea, Tottenham and excluding the Chelsea game we where extremely unlucky to be beaten taking Tottenham to penalties once, outplaying Man City throughout the majority of the game and pushing Tottenham to the limit playing them twice in one week.

      Yes you should be beating teams like us but don't be delusional to think we are a poor or average team. We like you had a blip last week against Crystal Palace it happens. Especially when a player like Huddlestone could quite easily get in the Liverpool first team.

      Secondly it is quite laughable when you see comments about people saying you desperately need to get to the transfer window to splash some cash and bemoan the absence of Sturridge. Your teams is worth millions and millions has some of the greatest players in the world, worth at least quadruple the amount of our squad and we have our best two players out injured and Alex Bruce in defence.

      It is crazy that some of you think the solution is to spend more money regardless of the pool or quality and expensive players you have as a result of being beaten by a "poor squad".

      I also thought strangely enough that Skrtel was your man of the match today.
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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #683: Dec 02, 2013 01:05:13 am
      Wow! Skrtel gets the most votes on the MOTM poll. Now nothing surprises me anymore.
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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #684: Dec 02, 2013 01:16:22 am
      Wow! Skrtel gets the most votes on the MOTM poll. Now nothing surprises me anymore.
      And why not? He had a good game today with two unlucky deflections.
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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #685: Dec 02, 2013 02:09:47 am
      And why not? He had a good game today with two unlucky deflections.

      You're kidding, right? One deflection that the keeper had covered had he not stuck his foot in there, and one own goal that would've ended up closer to the corner flag than the goal post had he not stuck his head in. But at least he provided Rodgers with the perfect opportunity to sit him out.
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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #686: Dec 02, 2013 02:26:44 am
      You're kidding, right? One deflection that the keeper had covered had he not stuck his foot in there, and one own goal that would've ended up closer to the corner flag than the goal post had he not stuck his head in. But at least he provided Rodgers with the perfect opportunity to sit him out.

      so you suggest that he should have stepped aside to let the hull player shoot freely on goal? Shame on him for trying to block a shot.

      Now nothing suprises me anymore
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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #687: Dec 02, 2013 04:13:18 am
      Was Gerrard that good today Mick?
      Apologies to butt in your conversation. Trying to put a finger on motm. Just can't get around to choosing anyone so I'll boycott this vote unless I change my mind later. Stevie was poor but was the best in our shirt, made a couple of advanced runs too inside the box and the service to Suarez was poor.
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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #688: Dec 02, 2013 04:47:15 am
      You're kidding, right? One deflection that the keeper had covered had he not stuck his foot in there, and one own goal that would've ended up closer to the corner flag than the goal post had he not stuck his head in. But at least he provided Rodgers with the perfect opportunity to sit him out.

      gotta remember the speed this game goes at.  in both situations of deflections.. on a better day, skrtel's body part could've saved a goal.  Skrtel was doing his very best to stick a piece of his body in the way of a shot, too bad he was just a fraction of a second too slow.

      however, we shouldn't have been in the position of them shooting the way they did in the first place.  the 2nd goal against us was a classic shooting fish in a barrel kind of goal.... I cringed when it was unfolding, somehow knowing that it was destined to go in :(
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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #689: Dec 02, 2013 06:47:33 am
      I am still too angry to comment after this mauling by Hull City Tigers.Enough said.
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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #690: Dec 02, 2013 07:13:22 am
      Once the opponents pack the bus, we run out of ideas on out to break their defence.
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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #691: Dec 02, 2013 08:02:53 am

      Hull City 3 Liverpool 1: match report
      Read a full match report of the Premier League game between Hull City and Liverpool at the KC Stadium on Sunday Dec 1, 2013.
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      10:00PM GMT 01 Dec 2013



      The admission from Brendan Rodgers was as startling as the ineptitude of Liverpool’s performance against Hull City.

       “There’s no doubt our quality in our squad, with all due respect, isn’t big enough to cope with two players like that [Philippe Coutinho and Daniel Sturridge] missing,” he said after watching his side lose 3-1.

      Two, just two, players are forced out – Coutinho started on the bench – and it all becomes rather too much like pre-January 2013 for Liverpool.

      It has taken a bit longer than usual, but yet again the club will head into a transfer window amid a clamour for new recruits.

      The inference from Rodgers cannot be brushed aside. The club’s much lauded transfer committee spent £50 million on eight players last summer. Here they are again, still a couple of recruits from looking capable of a Champions League return and a few injuries from being thrust into what has become an annual scrap to finish above seventh.

      Hull City took advantage of Rodgers’s need to utilise the fullness of his squad, not just deserving their victory, but raising deeper questions as to whether Liverpool’s decent start to the campaign is about to unravel.
       

      It may seem harsh given that Liverpool were second at the start of the day, but the hints were there prior to Jake Livermore, David Meyler and a Martin Skrtel own goal inflicting this damage.

      For the Merseyside club, this may have been only their third defeat of the season, but the last time they won away from home (at Sunderland in September) their opponents did not have a manager. Poor at Newcastle, hammered at Arsenal and fortunate a week ago at Goodison Park, they were dire at the KC Stadium. The sense of foreboding was apparent as soon as the team sheet was printed.

      You will recall those dark days on Merseyside at the start of last season, the club languishing in mid-table, applying the doctrine of possession football but ultimately relying on a second of individual brilliance, usually from Luis Suarez, to win a game or take a point.

      It began to change when Sturridge and Coutinho signed, two signings having that rare effect of being instantly impressive upon walking through the Shankly Gates.

      Here – and much credit must go to the vastly underrated Steve Bruce for the superb exposing of Liverpool’s weaknesses – we witnessed why they have become as critical as Suarez.
      Their replacements have shown nothing to suggest they can fill the void.

      Victor Moses and Raheem Sterling should have relished an opportunity to prove the last few months of bench duty was a waste of their talent.

      Sterling continues to struggle to justify the hype that elevated him to an England call-up. Yes, he is a teenager, but for those with memories of Fowler, Owen and Gerrard at the same age, the months of haggling over his contract last season look preposterously premature.

      Moses, meanwhile, was quoted suggesting that his lack of action was stopping him accumulating a target of 20 goals this season. He was voted Nigeria’s Player of the Year this week. The runner-up in that poll must have had a shocking dip in form. All Moses’s performance achieved was confirmation when Chelsea start sending players on loan, Everton are getting the better deals.

      It was Moses’s lethargic flick on 16 minutes that enabled Livermore to give Hull the lead. There was some fortune as it deflected off Skrtel beyond Mignolet, but Liverpool could hardly bemoan their luck.

      They equalised 11 minutes later because they have become something of set-piece specialists in the last fortnight. Curtis Davies tripped Jordan Henderson, who was playing in an advanced midfield role, and Steven Gerrard stepped up to place the kick beyond Allan McGregor.

      Hull simply regrouped, denying Liverpool any space and countering dangerously.
      Tom Huddlestone’s elegant display was a reminder to Liverpool it is possible to sign midfielders who can pass more than six yards with both feet.

      Bruce ordered his side to allow the visitors possession in their own half with the confidence they were not threatening to do much with it, but when called upon to defend Liverpool were pedestrian. Meyler shot across Mignolet to restore the lead on 72 minutes, and Skrtel ensured there would be no anxious finale, heading into his own net with four minutes left.

      Liverpool looked shambolic in the closing stages, and face a daunting Christmas period.

      “It’s an understatement to say it was disappointing,” Rodgers said. “We lacked quality with the ball. We never created enough or kept the ball long enough to move them about.”

      Hull City’s supporters began the day planning a demonstration against their owner’s name change, but ended it feeling like they had finally arrived in the Premier League.
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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #692: Dec 02, 2013 08:07:00 am
      I knew we were in a bit of trouble when they started getting rowdy at the 19 minute mark. The commentator was saying some sh*t about how that's their protest against the owner for wanting to change their name and they do that at all games at the 19 minute mark. Lo and f**king behold they score in the 19th minute. Bet they haven't done that all seson so of course they had to do it against us!!!
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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #693: Dec 02, 2013 08:16:13 am
      Credit where its due - fat head got this one right...

      Park the bus at home, get all men behind the ball when not is possession and play on the counter. Make sure every counter attack ends with a shot and hope you convert a few chances.

      We were unable to break down their defence and their midfield did a number on us with pressure and passion. I cant remeber the amount of times we 'gave the ball away' to Hull. It was a truly shocking afternoon, however every team will suffer at least one or two more setbacks this season. 

      We look very lost against these teams - I saw this against Villa last season and we really have not grown as a team. We need to find a way to break teams down, or adapt during games. On this ocassions however, I think our players need to look at the game again, they simply didnt turn up and it looked like they couldnt be arsed expecting Hull to simply roll over for them.
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      Reply #694: Dec 02, 2013 08:28:18 am
      Poor performance and a bit of a disaster at the back but I wont be too critical. With the exception of arsenal,  other teams have all dropped points as well against "lesser" opponents.

      Atleast rodgers is honest enough to admit the squad doesn't have enough quality( this could probably be applied more to midfield and strike options). A third top quality striker is required.
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      Reply #695: Dec 02, 2013 08:50:51 am
      Brendan needs to careful blaming the squad depth - he's spent a lot of money. He picked the team - dropping Agger was a big call because I reckon Skrtel plays better with Agger alongside him. Don't want him to end up sounding like Benitez - blaming everyone but himself.

      On paper the squad isn't great but not that terrible either. But we have some problems with it - the young lads who were coming through have gone backwards (Wisdom, Sterling), Gerrard is fading, some poor signings (Borini, Allen), some palyers who haven't started to play yet (Sakho) and some players who remain simply not good enough (Lucas, Aspas, Enrique)

      Also for a team that plays a so-called defensive midfielder (in other words a limited CM) we concede reguarly, look fragile and also disorganised at the back. Their midfeild was allowed to come onto to us (like at Arsenal and Everton) - the two Tottenham lads (Livermore and Huddlestone) had easy days at the office.
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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #696: Dec 02, 2013 09:45:12 am
      Ah well.

      At least this will only sting until Wednesday.
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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #697: Dec 02, 2013 10:01:04 am
      Don't even want to think about this result ever again.

      The management fu**ed up with selections & tactics and the players even more so. They bottled it when the pressure was on. We had to win there yesterday and they turn in that sort of performance. Embarrassing.
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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #698: Dec 02, 2013 10:18:46 am
      What a horrifically sh*t display. Again our lack of defensive organisation and midfield guile and power has cost us dearly.

      Mignolet (5). Isn't organising his defence and his usual frailties - distribution and dealing with set pieces - cost us again. He's a very good, old-fashioned shot-stopper. That's not enough.

      Skrtel (3). Horrible display after a good run of form. Culpable for two goals

      Toure (5). He's no Jamie Carragher. Lacked authority and leadership

      Johnson (4). Poor. Didn't attack effectively and made too many basic mistakes. Needs to do better, as he is capable of much more than this.

      Flanagan (6). Another decent display, but we badly miss Enrique.

      Lucas (4). Typical Lucas display: stayed back, a few interceptions, niggly fouls and totally out of condition so that after 60 minutes, he's almost entirely useless.

      Gerrard (6). Pretty ordinary, extra point for the goal. Our only threat from midfield.

      Moses (3). F**k off.

      Sterling (4). Needs to stop having children and start concentarting on his game. Which at the moment is non-existant.

      Henderson (4). He runs a lot. He does almost nothing else.

      Suarez (5). Looked a bit tired and had no support. He will be off as soon as he can, because he deserves better.

      Rodgers (4). Wrong team, poor squad, terrible lack of activity to make a positive change. Struggling.
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      Re: Hull City Tigers 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Debate
      Reply #699: Dec 02, 2013 10:22:29 am
      Someone give me a f**king positive

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