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      stuey
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      Inquest updates
      Apr 01, 2014 12:40:33 pm

      The inquest began with the names of the 96 being read out in court.

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      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/live-hillsborough-disaster-inquests---6900296
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      Reply #1: Apr 01, 2014 12:48:39 pm
      Impressed with the depth and wide reaching areas of enquiry.

      « Last Edit: Apr 02, 2014 11:27:17 am by stuey »
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      Reply #3: Apr 02, 2014 12:36:57 pm
      The inquest has been told that statements were 'doctored' to remove any criticism of the police in the tragedy.
      The coroner also questioned the appointment of Duckenfield and asked the jury to consider if he should have been in charge.
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      Reply #4: Apr 02, 2014 04:14:11 pm
      The controversial 3.15 cut off will not apply to these proceedings we are informed.
       
      Lord Justice Goldring earlier stated the obvious which is of course procedure in such cases to exaggerate a specific alternative; he asked the jury to consider if the amending of police accounts was done to deflect criticism or cast blame onto the fans.
      The coroner added none of the 96 should be blamed for their deaths.

        http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/hillsborough-disaster-inquest-jury-hears-6908276

      « Last Edit: Apr 02, 2014 06:39:34 pm by stuey »
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      Reply #5: Apr 03, 2014 07:15:13 am
      Duckenfield only 3 weeks on the role. Should he have been in charge? "Police officer in charge at Hillsborough was inexperienced, coroner tells inquest"

      http://gu.com/p/3z4ay
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      Reply #6: Apr 03, 2014 07:48:40 am
      Duckenfield only 3 weeks on the role. Should he have been in charge? "Police officer in charge at Hillsborough was inexperienced, coroner tells inquest"

      http://gu.com/p/3z4ay

      Who appointed Duckenfield and why?
      Scapegoats being offered up yet again; it is to be seen if the investigation does what it says on the tin.

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      Reply #7: Apr 03, 2014 12:58:30 pm
      Who appointed Duckenfield and why?
      Scapegoats being offered up yet again; it is to be seen if the investigation does what it says on the tin.



      I am worried about how that is looking. Are they saying it wasn't his fault it was just a mistake to have him there.I can already smell the establishment pulling up the drawbridge
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      Reply #8: Apr 03, 2014 01:05:25 pm
      I am worried about how that is looking. Are they saying it wasn't his fault it was just a mistake to have him there.I can already smell the establishment pulling up the drawbridge

      They don't come more anti establishment than me mate but for the sake of sanity I'm holding all those thoughts back for a while yet, there's a long road ahead and for your own sanity I'd advise the same course of action, for now.
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      Reply #9: Apr 03, 2014 01:41:12 pm
      They don't come more anti establishment than me mate but for the sake of sanity I'm holding all those thoughts back for a while yet, there's a long road ahead and for your own sanity I'd advise the same course of action, for now.

      Know what you're saying mate and keeping an open mind is essential, Duckenfield however will be under scrutiny as never before, his conduct in the original proceedings will be examined and it is to be hoped the person or persons responsible for his appointment are called to give evidence.
      These people are the ring fence of the establishment.
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      Reply #10: Apr 03, 2014 06:51:01 pm
      Know what you're saying mate and keeping an open mind is essential, Duckenfield however will be under scrutiny as never before, his conduct in the original proceedings will be examined and it is to be hoped the person or persons responsible for his appointment are called to give evidence.
      These people are the ring fence of the establishment.

      True Stu, I'm holding onto the hope that the scrutiny this time will leave nowhere to hide. There's a national interest in the outcome and the families of The 96 have a louder voice than ever before, they'll be heard like never before and those that be know it. Personal safety, scrutiny and security will rule this time. I live in hope basically mate.
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      Reply #11: Apr 03, 2014 07:33:13 pm
      True Stu, I'm holding onto the hope that the scrutiny this time will leave nowhere to hide. There's a national interest in the outcome and the families of The 96 have a louder voice than ever before, they'll be heard like never before and those that be know it. Personal safety, scrutiny and security will rule this time. I live in hope basically mate.

      As we all do Ian.

         http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/live-hillsborough-disaster-inquests---6911789

      Heartbreaking is an understatement.
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      Reply #12: Apr 04, 2014 12:48:12 pm
      I am pleased that the first thing the Jurors will hear is the fact that the people who lost their lives where good honest people who went to a football match and did not come back. At least this is a very good starting point.
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      Reply #13: Apr 07, 2014 04:04:57 pm
      Hillsborough boy had stadium fears
      Martin Kevin Traynor 16, said ''oh no not that stadium again'' the inquest jury has heard, he raised his concerns to his brother Christopher 26, who said ''don't worry I will be there with you,'' their sister Theresa Arrowsmith said.
      The brothers never came home from Hillsborough.
      All the families are giving portraits of the victims at the inquests.

      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/all-about/hillsborough%20inquests
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      Reply #14: Apr 08, 2014 07:51:00 pm
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      Reply #15: Apr 10, 2014 08:42:24 pm
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      Reply #16: May 21, 2014 03:55:55 pm
      23 Turnstiles for Liverpool fans - 60 for Notts Forest fans at Hillsborough.
      Inquiry told of two stolen tapes taken from a club room at Sheff. Weds. ground.

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      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/liverpool-fc-fans-access-just-7148473
      « Last Edit: May 21, 2014 05:55:56 pm by stuey »
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      Reply #17: May 21, 2014 06:10:49 pm
      A 32-minute video was shown to the jury of the distressing scenes at Hillsborough.

      The echo uploaded it:

      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/watch-hillsborough-inquests-shown-video-7153670?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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      Reply #18: Jun 02, 2014 04:42:03 pm
      Another damming report for the ground today. I wonder if there was anything in that ground which was fit for purpose.
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      Reply #21: Jun 16, 2014 08:04:55 pm
       Former Hillsborough club secretary tells inquest the Leppings Lane capacity should have been lowered

      While the police allowed unmonitored numbers into the Leppings Lane end capacities were an irrelevance.
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      Reply #22: Jun 22, 2014 02:47:20 pm
      « Last Edit: Jun 22, 2014 03:17:28 pm by stuey »
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      Reply #23: Jun 25, 2014 04:17:17 pm
      Leppings Lane had twice the safety capacity on the day of the tragedy, safe capacity 678 actual capacity that day 1,296.
      A great many of the safety barriers were outside the regulation safety standard, some by as much as 300% defective.

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      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/hillsborough-pen-nearly-twice-safe-7324946
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      Reply #24: Jul 01, 2014 09:06:20 am
      Hillsborough 'mistake was repeated'
      A Spurs fan who witnessed ''enormous crushing'' at Hillsborough in 1981 has sais ''the same mistake'' was made in 1989.
      Professor Norman Felton at the new inquests into the later disaster which claimed 96 Liverpool supporters lives.
      In 1981 Prof Felton was secretary of the Sheffield Spurs Supporters Society.
      He said the society compained about being allocated the smaller Leppings Lane end of the ground.


      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-28095597
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      Reply #25: Jul 01, 2014 10:36:28 am
      Hillsborough 'mistake was repeated'
      A Spurs fan who witnessed ''enormous crushing'' at Hillsborough in 1981 has sais ''the same mistake'' was made in 1989.
      Professor Norman Felton at the new inquests into the later disaster which claimed 96 Liverpool supporters lives.
      In 1981 Prof Felton was secretary of the Sheffield Spurs Supporters Society.
      He said the society compained about being allocated the smaller Leppings Lane end of the ground.


      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-28095597
      Thanks Stuey, I'm on holiday, and it's difficult to find the links as it's BBC.com here.

      I can fully understand why they did not want any of this to come out.

      Hick and Gillette, said the NESV take over was an epic swindle, well this is a truly Epic Swindle of Justice.

      If there is any compensation to be paid, I hope it is paid on today's estimation of loss, and not 1989's.

      None of them can claim they did not know that the tragedy was a possibility after all the warning signs and concerns of staff and fans.
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      Reply #26: Jul 01, 2014 12:58:46 pm
      Thanks Stuey, I'm on holiday, and it's difficult to find the links as it's BBC.com here.

      I can fully understand why they did not want any of this to come out.

      Hick and Gillette, said the NESV take over was an epic swindle, well this is a truly Epic Swindle of Justice.

      If there is any compensation to be paid, I hope it is paid on today's estimation of loss, and not 1989's.

      None of them can claim they did not know that the tragedy was a possibility after all the warning signs and concerns of staff and fans.

      Hope you're having a good time mate on your jollies.
      The complicity becomes clearer with every disclosure at the inquest on a daily basis, it is to be hoped that scratching the surface of the cover-up leads to some bigger heads rolling.
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      Reply #27: Jul 01, 2014 01:09:13 pm
      Hope you're having a good time mate on your jollies.
      The complicity becomes clearer with every disclosure at the inquest on a daily basis, it is to be hoped that scratching the surface of the cover-up leads to some bigger heads rolling.

      Pity nobody bothered looking at these things at the original inquests mate.  Let's hope the real culprits are forced to accept they were responsible for those 96 deaths and the subsequent tarnishing of anyone from the City.
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      Reply #28: Jul 01, 2014 01:36:36 pm
      Pity nobody bothered looking at these things at the original inquests mate.  Let's hope the real culprits are forced to accept they were responsible for those 96 deaths and the subsequent tarnishing of anyone from the City.

      The outrageous cover up from the highest government departments to the plod outside the ground were all involved in not bothering to investigate the tragedy correctly, that was no coincidence Debs; the blame can be spread in equal measure to the very top of the political spectrum.   
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      Reply #29: Jul 01, 2014 01:43:23 pm
      Pity nobody bothered looking at these things at the original inquests mate.  Let's hope the real culprits are forced to accept they were responsible for those 96 deaths and the subsequent tarnishing of anyone from the City.

      It was convenient to just say we've had an inquest, and blame them scousers.

      A huge thanks should go out to the fan on the Kop who shouted Justice, I think it was, and fair play to the MP, sorry can't remember his name off the top of my head, who was speaking at the time
      who had the balls to actually start the First Proper Inquiry.

      I wonder how many of the authorities thought it would be as thorough as it has been.

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