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      Emre Can (Liverpool > Juventus)

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      Re: Emre Can Player Thread
      Reply #2370: Jun 01, 2018 04:12:59 pm

      Wish he’d just hurry up and announce he’s off.
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      Reply #2371: Jun 01, 2018 05:17:14 pm
      Heard an interesting argument on a podcast, something along the lines of:

      He's signed a deal at Liverpool, he's honoured his contract, he's played as well as he could for the years he's been contracted to. He's under no legal ground to sign a new deal. He's literally done the job he's been hired for.

      Now while I stopped and paused for a while to think about 'maybe I've been overreacting' I'm still returning to 'no he's a c**t'.
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      Reply #2372: Jun 01, 2018 11:39:04 pm
      Heard an interesting argument on a podcast, something along the lines of:

      He's signed a deal at Liverpool, he's honoured his contract, he's played as well as he could for the years he's been contracted to. He's under no legal ground to sign a new deal. He's literally done the job he's been hired for.

      Now while I stopped and paused for a while to think about 'maybe I've been overreacting' I'm still returning to 'no he's a c**t'.

      I think he has been professional about it, I mean he honored his contract and yes, I believe he gave his best.

      Rather a player do this, than to sign a new contract all smiles and a couple of months later start acting like an idiot because he wants out of the team. If, for whatever reason he doesn’t like what’s on th table then he’s doing the right looking for other options.

      He is not a bad player, and I’d like if he stays because he’ll add much needed depth to our squad, but if he decides to go, no big deal either.

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      Re: Emre Can Player Thread
      Reply #2373: Jun 02, 2018 07:10:36 am
      Thank you for the service but no thanks to sign a contract. Good luck.
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      Re: Emre Can Player Thread
      Reply #2374: Jun 02, 2018 09:16:13 am
      I don't know about anyone else but whenever I had decided to leave a Company even before giving my notice something changed because I new I was leaving. We have not had 100% of Emre because its not humanly possible to give everything when you know your leaving anyway, the defeats just don't hurt as much and I am sure some of the squad didn't like him being around knowing he wanted to leave the club for another.
      Seeing who we have coming in he won't be missed.
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      Reply #2375: Jun 02, 2018 09:25:26 am
      I don't know about anyone else but whenever I had decided to leave a Company even before giving my notice something changed because I new I was leaving. We have not had 100% of Emre because its not humanly possible to give everything when you know your leaving anyway, the defeats just don't hurt as much and I am sure some of the squad didn't like him being around knowing he wanted to leave the club for another.
      Seeing who we have coming in he won't be missed.
      This is quite true,in a nutshell you know your leaving and your heart & mind just isn't in it,it's a human trait.
      At the end of the day we have done better with the replacemeant we have brought in in my honest opinion I just want us to continue in this vain & improve the squad for next season.
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      Re: Emre Can Player Thread
      Reply #2376: Jun 02, 2018 09:28:57 am
      Not going to criticise someone for leaving to increase his chances of winning silverware, we are on the right track with jurgen but the attraction of juventus is obvious
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      Reply #2377: Jun 02, 2018 10:04:46 am
      I don't know about anyone else but whenever I had decided to leave a Company even before giving my notice something changed because I new I was leaving. We have not had 100% of Emre because its not humanly possible to give everything when you know your leaving anyway, the defeats just don't hurt as much and I am sure some of the squad didn't like him being around knowing he wanted to leave the club for another.
      Seeing who we have coming in he won't be missed.

      Not sure I'm on board with that. You can't relate football to a normal job.

      I can give you dozens of examples where players have moved on straight after a season or a big final and they would have known it going into that game. Theres plenty in our history

      Football players don't think of playing for a club the way we would do, they see it as the here and now, I was on the books at a proclub until the age of 19 and I've seen them, I played semi pro way after that and the difference between pro and semi pro is gigantic in terms of how they think about the game.
      Emre would 100% want to achieve all he could this season from a personal selfish view, he would want to have walked out a winner of the champions league, regardless of next season like many have before with European cup wins, world cup wins whatever.
      Their teammates don't not trust them, they just want to win themselves and having the best players at the club out there gives them that opportunity too.

      Look at the obvious Suarez season. Steven had to convince Suarez to stay and give them another year safe in the knowledge that he's off the following season. Look back at 13-14 did it look like they didn't want him on the pitch? Knowing he's off and that the skipper had to beg him to stay? Of course not.

      Emre would want to walk away a winner, walk away the best, add a champions league winning medal now rather than maybe down the line..
      You can't compete that to working in a factory or pushing trolleys in a supermarket where you are waiting the days to move to something better.

      Can wants out for reasons we won't know, he's not settled ultimately, he doesn't like the weather, he doesn't like the food or he doesn't think he will get much game time and he was in a position to move to somewhere else for nothing. We don't and won't know why truly

      He wouldn't wreck the chance of winning the biggest prizes and missing out on the world cup just because he's thinking of the future. They aren't built like that.
      He is more likely to think that a career ending challenge could be round the corner and he may never get the chance of a European cup final or world cup again than think of winning them again in the future

      I don't actually think we will miss him either truth be told.
      I also think the longer no announcement with Juve is announced which could have been now for months that the city link has more to it and that will be announced July 1
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      Re: Emre Can Player Thread
      Reply #2378: Jun 02, 2018 10:12:57 am
      you cant compare Luis with Can, Luis is just an animal when it comes to being competitive. We may or may not know his reason for leaving and I don't think many people really care now but it must have been a talking point with the lads unless it was a bit Basil Fawlty
      and "don't mention he is leaving" all season.
      Anyhow hope the door doesn't hit him on the way out.
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      Reply #2379: Jun 02, 2018 10:17:19 am
      you cant compare Luis with Can, Luis is just an animal when it comes to being competitive. We may or may not know his reason for leaving and I don't think many people really care now but it must have been a talking point with the lads unless it was a bit Basil Fawlty
      and "don't mention he is leaving" all season.
      Anyhow hope the door doesn't hit him on the way out.

      Of course you can compare them

      Why not compare him to Smicer then?
      Whoever

      It's the same argument . You are completely guessing or getting something to fit your narrative . Trust me the players won't give a sh*t he's off, they will be his mate and won't judge him like you do.

      Like I say he won't take a chance of missing that final or a world cup because he's thinking of next season
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      Reply #2380: Jun 02, 2018 10:20:26 am
      I am mixed about this but the fact he has not signed with Juve amazes me...

      I think he is / was waiting for the world cup but if reports are to be believed he has not made this squad. This would have given him a great opportunity as a free agent to drive the wages and signing on fee up. But not featuring on this stage may actually become a big risk as no doubt other players will become available post a strong tournament.   

      Or perhaps it the typical Italian transfer issues - where they promise the moon on a stick, then declare they are skint.

      Either way, I dont think its all going to plan for Emre... 
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      Reply #2381: Jun 04, 2018 02:18:07 pm
      I am mixed about this but the fact he has not signed with Juve amazes me...

      I think he is / was waiting for the world cup but if reports are to be believed he has not made this squad. This would have given him a great opportunity as a free agent to drive the wages and signing on fee up. But not featuring on this stage may actually become a big risk as no doubt other players will become available post a strong tournament.   

      Or perhaps it the typical Italian transfer issues - where they promise the moon on a stick, then declare they are skint.

      Either way, I dont think its all going to plan for Emre... 

      Wouldn’t be surprised if he genuinely thought we would bow to his demands but now we haven’t and signed Fabinho, he’s probably thinking he should have given Juve an answer sooner.
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      Reply #2382: Jun 04, 2018 02:35:00 pm
      Wouldn’t be surprised if he genuinely thought we would bow to his demands but now we haven’t and signed Fabinho, he’s probably thinking he should have given Juve an answer sooner.


      Or maybe he is still undecided? There could be a good chance we keep Emre.
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      Re: Emre Can Player Thread
      Reply #2383: Jun 04, 2018 02:39:14 pm
      Or maybe he is still undecided? There could be a good chance we keep Emre.

      There is no chance he’s staying.
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      Reply #2384: Jun 04, 2018 03:19:46 pm

      The less we see developments of Emre signing for a new club the stronger it becomes he could stay with us, I believe Emre has plenty to offer us..
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      Reply #2385: Jun 04, 2018 03:27:52 pm
      The less we see developments of Emre signing for a new club the stronger it becomes he could stay with us, I believe Emre has plenty to offer us..

      How exactly? His contract is going to expire within weeks, by the looks of it there is no further offer from the club for a renewal. He won’t be a Liverpool player next season.
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      Reply #2386: Jun 04, 2018 06:09:19 pm
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      Reply #2388: Jun 04, 2018 07:06:13 pm
      Heard an interesting argument on a podcast, something along the lines of:

      He's signed a deal at Liverpool, he's honoured his contract, he's played as well as he could for the years he's been contracted to. He's under no legal ground to sign a new deal. He's literally done the job he's been hired for.

      Now while I stopped and paused for a while to think about 'maybe I've been overreacting' I'm still returning to 'no he's a c**t'.

      Why? It's not like he strung the club along, and the club had every opportunity to sell him and make something back but chose not to. I'd strongly disagree with anyone who says he down tools either, because he's played as good - or bad - as he ever has, so I have no problem with him. Don't want to be here? Your loss. Thanks for your time, see you on the playing field when we beat you in Europe.
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      Reply #2389: Jun 05, 2018 07:43:39 am
      I think we already forgot that we also have Ox to play in midfield next season, (more valuable than Lallana in my opinion) even tho he doesn't like to play on the wing anymore, he still can play there as well as centre midfield. So Emre can literally leave asap. Keita, Fabinho, Ox, Milner, Henderson, Gini, add Fekir hopefully on oh my!
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      Reply #2390: Jun 05, 2018 08:01:18 am
      Why? It's not like he strung the club along, and the club had every opportunity to sell him and make something back but chose not to. I'd strongly disagree with anyone who says he down tools either, because he's played as good - or bad - as he ever has, so I have no problem with him. Don't want to be here? Your loss. Thanks for your time, see you on the playing field when we beat you in Europe.

      Nah. He doesn’t want to be here, so f**k him.

      Enjoy warming the bench in Turin
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      Reply #2391: Jun 05, 2018 08:15:47 am
      Nah. He doesn’t want to be here, so f**k him.

      Enjoy warming the bench in Turin

      I think he'll play for what it's worth.

      Know what's funny though I was just thinking.
      2 things

      If he was that good we might be bothered..  he's not really

      The exciting thing is we look to have not one but two better looking midfielders coming in as he goes out.. potentially another after that

      Only thing that sticks for me is he's off for a free but ..... ah well
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      Reply #2392: Jun 05, 2018 09:56:56 am
      I think he'll play for what it's worth.

      Know what's funny though I was just thinking.
      2 things

      If he was that good we might be bothered..  he's not really

      The exciting thing is we look to have not one but two better looking midfielders coming in as he goes out.. potentially another after that

      Only thing that sticks for me is he's off for a free but ..... ah well


      I wonder what his valuation would have been, mid thirties I'd guess so it does kind of suck. ANyway he won't be missed and I'd be amazed if he gets much game time in Juve but for them its a free transfer, squad bolstered type of thing.
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      Reply #2393: Jun 05, 2018 01:39:44 pm
      His brain must be the size of a pea imo.To not want to stay.Can't he see Klopps vision?Can't he see the players old and new, he would be playing alongside.Klopp has come out and said he "wanted Can to stay"
      Technicaly he's done nothing wrong.Which makes me surmise its a "money" issue.
      So good luck to the lad and I'm sure he will (in time)regret not staying here.
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      Reply #2394: Jun 05, 2018 07:43:25 pm
      Nah. He doesn’t want to be here, so f**k him.

      Enjoy warming the bench in Turin

      At least it's warmer than warming our bench :P
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      Reply #2395: Jun 08, 2018 05:37:10 pm
      Confirmed.

      He is leaving at the end of his contract

      Best of luck Emre  xxxxx:action-smiley-065:
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      Reply #2396: Jun 08, 2018 06:00:22 pm
      I will miss Can! Good luck with the Italian women and Juventus!
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      Reply #2397: Jun 08, 2018 06:09:00 pm
      I will miss Can! Good luck with the Italian women and Juventus!

      Here's a little something to cheer you up

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      Reply #2398: Jun 08, 2018 07:24:36 pm
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      Reply #2399: Jun 08, 2018 07:56:44 pm
      Good luck to him. He always put in a shift and I hope he does well in Italy ( which I think he will).

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