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      Emre Can (Liverpool > Juventus)

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      Re: Emre Can Player Thread
      Reply #1771: Sep 14, 2017 12:23:56 am
      I think he's genuinely worried about his playing time for next season, rightly so, and that he'll be off to Juventus most likely. He's not worth it to change our policy regarding buy out clauses in contracts. It'll do more bad than good long term if we do allow it.

      If you look at the past two seasons with Klopp, he has only really ever been a starter because of injuries. Klopp's preferred midfield has always been Wijnaldum - Henderson - Lallana. With Henderson's foot problem having been a major issue and Lallana now out again for a few months, I think he has played more than Klopp planned to and that it might have been the plan to let him go anyway?

      We've been linked with so many midfielders during his time here, all midfielders that play the position he plays for us. Klopp has now brought in Alex, I'm assuming as an understudy to Lallana and thus a player for Can's position and next year Keita comes in, also for that position. That leaves us with Coutinho, Wijnaldum, Lallana, Keita, Alex and a few youngsters, Grujic and probably Woodburn for two positions.

      He's obviously a talented player,no denying that. I've defended him on here quite a few times. He has his strong points and he can be very good, but I still don't know wether he's actually a #6 or a #8. He has quite a few glaring weaknesses in his game too to play either position.  I said it in the match thread, his awareness of his surroundings is virtually non-existant. Runners have it so easy against him, he just never tracks them, it's ridiculous. Look back at tonight's 2nd goal, he's way too high up the pitch and he didn't even notice the runner. Henderson then has to try and make up for it and is too late. That awareness is really important if you play as a #6.

      For the #8 spot in our midfield, he just lacks the technical ability to do it. Compare him to Wijnaldum and Lallana and the difference in ability on the ball is clear as day. Both Wijnaldum and Lallana look to play the ball forward as quick as possible in transition. Either by quick one or two touch passing or on the half turn beating their players in one move allowing them to run in that space. Lallana is absolutely brilliant at this. Can needs too many touches on the ball for him ever to be useful in our midfield as a more advanced midfielder. He'll probably look a lot better in a team that offers him more protection and that plays a different system.
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      Reply #1772: Sep 14, 2017 03:57:47 am
      I would honestly not worry about losing him in the summer.
      He really isn't that good.
      A fit lallana, a focussed Coutinho, a hopefully brilliant player in Keita and we will be gold
      Hendo, Gini, Grujic and Woodburn as competition and it all feels better....not great but better.
      Never understood the love in that emre gets THOUGH I will say that he was pretty decent at the start of the season.
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      Reply #1773: Sep 14, 2017 07:09:55 am
      How much a week is he after?
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      Reply #1774: Sep 14, 2017 07:18:55 am

      The same as Lovren :D
      Pretty much sums it all up.
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      Reply #1775: Sep 14, 2017 07:40:44 am
      Not good enough anyway. Good luck with him Juve. I preferred Momo Sissoko.

      Spot on mate.

      Momo understood the principle of "self-sacrifice" for the greater good of a team.

      Emre showing zero evidence of this for most of last season and the start of this. Hugely self indulgent in my opinion.

      Has ability but nowhere near the player he could be and already thinks he is.

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      Reply #1776: Sep 14, 2017 11:51:40 am
      Hopefully Coutinho is up to speed for the weekend as Can seems to have given up.
      Virtually zero tracking of players and just strolling around in midfield.

      Said it before his work off the ball is poor and this has only been exaggerated recently with his mind else where.
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      Reply #1777: Sep 17, 2017 03:31:12 pm
      Defensive liability this lad. Only part of the midfield problem, but his marking from set pieces is shocking and I won't forgive him for bottling the 50/50 before Sevilla's first goal.

      Inconsistent going forward mind, but without a true defensive midfielder in our team that side of his game is getting exposed.

      Serie A will suit him, and us, a lot better.
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      Reply #1778: Sep 17, 2017 04:12:06 pm
      He did ok, however I don't see him playing in a deep role. His best moments were when he was able to go forward, something that shouldn't be coming up too often if he's a DM. Times when we needed him defensively he made a silly foul or let his man get away from him, costing us a goal (along with terrible defending from our centre backs).

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      Reply #1779: Sep 17, 2017 04:27:54 pm
      Defensive liability this lad. Only part of the midfield problem, but his marking from set pieces is shocking and I won't forgive him for bottling the 50/50 before Sevilla's first goal.

      Inconsistent going forward mind, but without a true defensive midfielder in our team that side of his game is getting exposed.

      Serie A will suit him, and us, a lot better.

      I think you're right. He's the biggest part of the midfield issues for me.

      For me he plays for Emre first and Liverpool 2nd.

      That's nowhere near good enough for me - needs to kick on massively.
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      Reply #1780: Sep 18, 2017 01:19:03 am
      I think you're right. He's the biggest part of the midfield issues for me.

      For me he plays for Emre first and Liverpool 2nd.

      That's nowhere near good enough for me - needs to kick on massively.

      Watching him versus Burnley, I see comparisons with Yaya Toure, except nowhere near as good!
      He seems to be box to box,  a big presence but he doesn't provide the magic moment. In that team yesterday he was there to cover the CB and help with the physical side and he didn't. With our team we would be better with specialists like Kante (or Keita whom we are getting). Lucas was a bad loss this year. I seriously think our team needs better DM/CM not necessarily CB's although Klavan and Lovren make a compelling case!
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      Reply #1781: Sep 18, 2017 10:41:24 am
      3 dangerous free kicks he gave away that put us under more defensive pressure then we needed.

      Didn't even need to give the free kick away on any one of those occasions. Use your F***ing brain Emre!
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      Reply #1782: Sep 19, 2017 03:38:11 pm
      https://twitter.com/AnfieldHQ/status/910139892453269504

      So this guy wants around 150k/week(if that's what Coutinho is on) and a release clause ???
      Now I hope he doesn't sign and fucks off.. he hasn't done anything to warrant those wages, he's been bang average since coming here but acts like a superstar.. imagine him being on more than Mane :-\
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      Reply #1783: Sep 23, 2017 09:24:36 pm
      Not one of Emre's best today, thought he overcomplicated several times, but in saying that wasn't terrible by any means.
      Hit the post with a great shot in the first half, which should've been an assist/turning in by Salah (how did he miss that !?)
      Tough on the 3 lads (Can/Hendo/Gini) cause there really isn't much backup for them, so a lot on their shoulders,
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      Re: Emre Can Player Thread
      Reply #1784: Sep 23, 2017 10:16:11 pm
      The sooner Lallana gets up to speed the better, apart from the shot against the post did nothing apart from giving the ball away usually in dangerous positions just outside our box.
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      Reply #1785: Sep 27, 2017 12:07:24 am
      F***ing twattish performance. Not the first time his dumbfuckery has directly cost us a goal and unlikely to be the last. Christ Emre - keep this up and maybe you'll descend to the sort of atrocious 'worst midfielder performance I've ever seen' type of display you put in at Sunderland back in New Year.

      Maybe he just isn't worth keeping?

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      Reply #1786: Sep 27, 2017 12:32:07 am
      F***ing twattish performance. Not the first time his dumbfuckery has directly cost us a goal and unlikely to be the last. Christ Emre - keep this up and maybe you'll descend to the sort of atrocious 'worst midfielder performance I've ever seen' type of display you put in at Sunderland back in New Year.

      Maybe he just isn't worth keeping?



      Agreed, I've held out hope that he'd produce his best performances consistently but he's so wildly inconsistent and his poor play is too poor to carry. Thought he was one of our worst players again tonight, between him and Wijnaldum (especially away), I just can't wait to get Lallana back.
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      Reply #1787: Sep 27, 2017 12:40:07 am

      Maybe not but you still give him a contract with a release clause that's more than what he'll go for as it stands.

      Very surprised FSG haven't nailed him down if only for the selling on fee.
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      Reply #1788: Sep 27, 2017 12:42:11 am
      I just can't wait to get Lallana back

      Kind of forgot about that little f**ker.

      Wheel him out.
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      Re: Emre Can Player Thread
      Reply #1789: Sep 27, 2017 01:05:17 am
      He look poor like he mind is some were else plus don't think he player then we miss if get rid of in summer get better mild fielder next year
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      Reply #1790: Sep 28, 2017 03:18:53 am
      Yep so I still can't understand why he tried to keep that ball in and pass it back to Trent who was covered by 2 players. Let the ball go out you dummy!
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      Re: Emre Can Player Thread
      Reply #1791: Sep 28, 2017 03:46:42 am
      I want to see Mily get some of Cans minutes. Milner fits better with our attack. Can is so slow over the ball and takes so long to make decisions (he's just plain slow really ;D). I like Can, but Milner is more versatile and I think with his attacking mindset could be the spark we need to start converting these chances into goals.
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      Reply #1792: Sep 28, 2017 05:58:10 am
      I want to see Mily get some of Cans minutes. Milner fits better with our attack. Can is so slow over the ball and takes so long to make decisions (he's just plain slow really ;D). I like Can, but Milner is more versatile and I think with his attacking mindset could be the spark we need to start converting these chances into goals.

      And he can take a Pen. Good thinking.
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      Re: Emre Can Player Thread
      Reply #1793: Sep 28, 2017 06:57:43 am
      Needs to be put on the bench for a while.

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