Fernandez Suso (Porto)

Speaking to the media, Suso has disclosed the following about his Anfield future:
My priority is to stay here[at Liverpool], but Porto is an excellent option if I leave Liverpool. I know there’s negotiations.
Porto are the best club in Portugal and they have faith in their youngsters. They also have a coach I like working with[Lopetegui].
I will only renew with Liverpool if I’m guaranteed I’ll play regularly. The option is clear if I don’t renew: let me leave.
I think Liverpool thinks the same. They won’t let me leave on a free in a year if I don’t renew. Let see what happens.

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/liverpools-suso-confirms-discussions-are-being-held-with-fc-porto-transfer-seems-close-quotes/
 

I'm not sure what to make of this. Personally, I would rather he stay, renewal and fight. I'd be happy for us to take a huge gamble on him and not buy Lallana. However, for him to say that he'll only renewal his contract if hes guaranteed to play regularly is disappointing to hear and this shows lack of desire and determination.

From his perspective, I understand where he's coming from. He has the potential, had a good season at Almeria playing top tier football and with that experience, I'm sure he feels he's ready to show his worth. I think he wants to stay but maybe he doesn't feel he'll get enough opportunities if Rodgers buys Lallana.

I honestly feel he can make it here and become a key player in years to come. He just really needs to take a leaf out of Henderson's book rather than Thomas Ince's.

I'm not sure what to make of this. Personally, I would rather he stay, renewal and fight. I'd be happy for us to take a huge gamble on him and not buy Lallana. However, for him to say that he'll only renewal his contract if hes guaranteed to play regularly is disappointing to hear and this shows lack of desire and determination.

From his perspective, I understand where he's coming from. He has the potential, had a good season at Almeria playing top tier football and with that experience, I'm sure he feels he's ready to show his worth. I think he wants to stay but maybe he doesn't feel he'll get enough opportunities if Rodgers buys Lallana.

I honestly feel he can make it here and become a key player in years to come. He just really needs to take a leaf out of Henderson's book rather than Thomas Ince's.

It looks like he on his way doesn't it. I'm gutted to be honest as I think quite a few others will be too. I don't blame the lad. I guess the gaffer simply doesn't rate him, I love Brendan but I think he is wrong on this one. He let Suso go on loan for a season and replaced him with the hapless Alberto and Aspas neither of whom could get a game for love nor money let alone influence one. I would argue that Suso did more in a 1--15 appearances the previous season than the two of them managed between them. You only have to listen to the some of the soundbites coming from Brendan when he was complimenting Borini recently, he was very enthusiastic about the player (certainly more enthusiastic than me) but there has been little said about Suso.

I wouldn't go so far as to say 'don't sign Lallana and let Suso do the job' BUT with Champions League, the EPL and 2 domestic Cup competitions there should be more than enough football to go around.

At least take a good look at Suso in pre-season BEFORE letting him go, that's what i'm hoping. I think we will regret letting him go. I'm pretty baffled tbh.

we really haven't given suso the opportunity he needs I feel.   I think he would've made a good impact bench player for us personally but it seems like he wants lots of game time (don't blame him) and I don't see him ranking in front of suarez, sturridge, sterling, cou, so even with more games, he might be sitting more than playing

either way, good luck to the lad

hope he stays, slightly confused again about what we want from some of these youngsters, is it a case of give a year or two and then ship them out ?

We need to be strengthening our squad and selling Suso to Porto if true would be a stupid move .

Also I want to point out, since PL started, there has only been a handful of really special players to come from our youth, progressing to 1st team and succeed, Fowler, McManaman, Owen, Gerrard and currently Sterling?

I may get a bit of flack for this, but I feel Suso can fall into that category. He just need opportunities and guidance from our players and coaching team. You just need to look at how Sterling has progressed because of this, and I've always thought he was better than Sterling in terms of footballing ability.

I like Suso, think he has potential, but there's a reason that Sterling has got opportunities and Suso hasn't.

I've always wondered about his atitude and it seems like this interview (if accurate) confirms my suspicions. Nothing wrong with him wanting first team football but he's not better than what we currently have and if he's not willing to fight...then he obviously lacks the mentality that Brendan seems to prefer in his players.

Good luck to him either way but I'm not going to cry in my beer if he goes.

Its possible that with the players the boss might have already lined up to come in that he feels Suso might be surplus.

Yes he has ability yes Id love to see him get a chance but he obviously isn't that high on the bosses list otherwise he simply wouldn't sell him.

If we are selling Id like to see us stick in a first option clause on a buy back

I've always wondered about his atitude and it seems like this interview (if accurate) confirms my suspicions. Nothing wrong with him wanting first team football but he's not better than what we currently have and if he's not willing to fight...then he obviously lacks the mentality that Brendan seems to prefer in his players.

Paul Pogba had the same attitude and left the mancs with a sour taste in his mouth with them .

Hope he doesn't leave, he is a prospect, hasn't really had a run in the team yet.

I like Suso, think he has potential, but there's a reason that Sterling has got opportunities and Suso hasn't.

I've always wondered about his atitude and it seems like this interview (if accurate) confirms my suspicions. Nothing wrong with him wanting first team football but he's not better than what we currently have and if he's not willing to fight...then he obviously lacks the mentality that Brendan seems to prefer in his players.

Good luck to him either way but I'm not going to cry in my beer if he goes.

But it works both ways, I imagine he hasn't had a great deal of encouragement from the gaffer in terms of being made to feel like he is rated and that he has a future at the club. If Brendan had been saying similar things about Suso as he has been about Borini then I daresay the noises coming from Suso would be very different.

But it works both ways, I imagine he hasn't had a great deal of encouragement from the gaffer in terms of being made to feel like he is rated and that he has a future at the club. If Brendan had been saying similar things about Suso as he has been about Borini then I daresay the noises coming from Suso would be very different.

Eh....all one has to do is look at Sterling....he was dressed down on television for millions to see and it ultimately seemed to make him more driven to prove himself to Brendan.

Ibe seems to be doing well and has the right attitude. Borini has said he wants to stay and fight for his place. I just don't see this kind of commitment from Suso. Maybe I'm wrong and we'll be letting go a future world beater but at this point, I'm not going to lose much sleep over it.

As I said for months, he doesn't want to be here. His comments are not hard to understand. He knows he would not be first on the team sheet so he is using this as a way to secure his move.

Cannot blame him to be fair. A sell-on clause should be installed in the selling price

Eh....all one has to do is look at Sterling....he was dressed down on television for millions to see and it ultimately seemed to make him more driven to prove himself to Brendan.

Ibe seems to be doing well and has the right attitude. Borini has said he wants to stay and fight for his place. I just don't see this kind of commitment from Suso. Maybe I'm wrong and we'll be letting go a future world beater but at this point, I'm not going to lose much sleep over it.

I'm really not sure how you have arrived at that conclusion tbh. Most of the press were reporting that we offered the lad in PX as part of the deal with Sevilla for Moreno, I daresay we have allowed him to speak with Porto (or are in dialogue with Porto) and on the back of sending him on a season long loan. It isn't about the commitment of the player as far as I can see. It's about whether the club want him. It doesn't look like we do does it? I know he only has a year to run on his contract but perhaps the club should have stepped in 6 months ago and offered him a new deal, you will recall he was making all the right noises about his future as an LFC player at the time.

I don't think the comparisons you have drawn are the best, yes Borini wants to stay and fight for his place, he has said so, but on the back of some public praise from the gaffer and Ibe is where Suso and Sterling were a couple of years ago. I don't think it's a certainty that Suso will go on to be a world beater BUTTTTTT foir him to go whilst a player like Alberto stays just seems silly to me.

I'm really not sure how you have arrived at that conclusion tbh. Most of the press were reporting that we offered the lad in PX as part of the deal with Sevilla for Moreno, I daresay we have allowed him to speak with Porto (or are in dialogue with Porto) and on the back of sending him on a season long loan. It isn't about the commitment of the player as far as I can see. It's about whether the club want him. It doesn't look like we do does it? I know he only has a year to run on his contract but perhaps the club should have stepped in 6 months ago and offered him a new deal, you will recall he was making all the right noises about his future as an LFC player at the time.

I don't think the comparisons you have drawn are the best, yes Borini wants to stay and fight for his place, he has said so, but on the back of some public praise from the gaffer and Ibe is where Suso and Sterling were a couple of years ago. I don't think it's a certainty that Suso will go on to be a world beater BUTTTTTT foir him to go whilst a player like Alberto stays just seems silly to me.

Looks like Alberto may be going on loan so he won't be here either. If we make a decent amount on Suso and spend it well I'll be ok with that.

I think Suso still has a future here myself. His talent is unquestioned. But I do think he needs to show a little bit more fight and work on the physical side of his game a bit. Coutinho, Sterling and Allen are all similarly small, but all three of them can be tenacious when they need be. Hopefully Suso can come in on the first day of preseason and do the same.

Looks like Alberto may be going on loan so he won't be here either. If we make a decent amount on Suso and spend it well I'll be ok with that.

I don't we will get much for him given his contract situation, I would guess about £3-4 million. I'm hoping Brendan gets a look at him during pre-season, take him on tour, see how he has developed in the past year and then make a decision on whether he stays or goes.

While I'd like to see him stay and prove himself, he isn't in a position to demand game time as he seems to be doing In this quote. Head down, work hard and you will get your chance through the four competitions we are in. However if Brendan's mind is made up about him, then that's probably it...Henderson is the only player he's written off who has managed to change his mind. The rest have been out the door at the first opportunity.

If he does go it would  be a shame, as he was one I thought would be having a breakthrough season next year, but it does give the likes of Ibe and Rossiter more of a shot.

While I'd like to see him stay and prove himself, he isn't in a position to demand game time as he seems to be doing In this quote. Head down, work hard and you will get your chance through the four competitions we are in. However if Brendan's mind is made up about him, then that's probably it...Henderson is the only player he's written off who has managed to change his mind. The rest have been out the door at the first opportunity.

If he does go it would  be a shame, as he was one I thought would be having a breakthrough season next year, but it does give the likes of Ibe and Rossiter more of a shot.

I don't get this at all.
We have a player who is desperate to play and has said he wants to get 1st team chances at Liverpool.
That's EXACTLY what i want to hear from a player who is young, has potential and has just had a good season on loan.
Would you rather a player just be content with the bench or just picking up his wages?!
Good for Suso of for having the belief that he should get some matches. I love that.

The other issue is if he is good enough in BR's eyes.

Personally i hope Suso is offered a new contract and is at least sent on loan to another Prem club to get better suited to our league.

I don't we will get much for him given his contract situation, I would guess about £3-4 million. I'm hoping Brendan gets a look at him during pre-season, take him on tour, see how he has developed in the past year and then make a decision on whether he stays or goes.

I would sure hope that Brendan has already taken into account his performance this past season and what he would want out of him. If he just ships him out with no evaluation that would be pretty silly. I don't think Brendan is that foolish do you?

I would sure hope that Brendan has already taken into account his performance this past season and what he would want out of him. If he just ships him out with no evaluation that would be pretty silly. I don't think Brendan is that foolish do you?

Definitely want to see that hunger to play from Suso, the quote (which we should probably take with a grain of salt) appears more of an ultimatum. And while his desire is great to see, he just doesn't have the track record (yet!) to demand a regular place. Hopefully it is worked through and he gets his chance, as I said in my earlier post, think this could be his breakout season.

Anybody know what he was like last season? Regular?

Anybody know what he was like last season? Regular?

Here's a reasonable scouting report...considering the crap source....
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2069479-scouting-report-did-liverpools-almeria-loanee-suso-succeed-or-fail

Here's a reasonable scouting report...considering the crap source....
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2069479-scouting-report-did-liverpools-almeria-loanee-suso-succeed-or-fail

Cheers dude!

I'm 50-50 on Suso and have been for a while. I think that is maybe because I see him as a 50-50 player. Sometimes I think we'd be daft to let him go as a squad with Suso in it would be better than one without him but then it all goes Dani Pacheco on me.

Decent little player but I've never been as excited about him as quite a few have. Massive step up from reserve team regular to Premier League regular.

As Scottie eluded to though, there's one or two I'd rather see go before him if I was being honest but at the same time, I think I'd get behind any decision whether that be we keep him or let him go.

Strange one.

Cheers dude!

I'm 50-50 on Suso and have been for a while. I think that is maybe because I see him as a 50-50 player. Sometimes I think we'd be daft to let him go as a squad with Suso in it would be better than one without him but then it all goes Dani Pacheco on me.

Decent little player but I've never been as excited about him as quite a few have. Massive step up from reserve team regular to Premier League regular.

As Scottie eluded to though, there's one or two I'd rather see go before him if I was being honest but at the same time, I think I'd get behind any decision whether that be we keep him or let him go.

Strange one.

You pretty much hit the nail on the head for me, I feel the exact same way.

Cheers dude!

I'm 50-50 on Suso and have been for a while. I think that is maybe because I see him as a 50-50 player. Sometimes I think we'd be daft to let him go as a squad with Suso in it would be better than one without him but then it all goes Dani Pacheco on me.

Decent little player but I've never been as excited about him as quite a few have. Massive step up from reserve team regular to Premier League regular.

As Scottie eluded to though, there's one or two I'd rather see go before him if I was being honest but at the same time, I think I'd get behind any decision whether that be we keep him or let him go.

Strange one.

This all reminds me a bit of Dani when I first joined the board, he was the next greatest thing and people were always bemoaning him not getting minutes or being loaned out. In the end sometimes things just don't work out the way we think they will.

If BR let's Suso walk then he has a reason for it and I trust his judgement.

Its possible that with the players the boss might have already lined up to come in that he feels Suso might be surplus.

Yes he has ability yes Id love to see him get a chance but he obviously isn't that high on the bosses list otherwise he simply wouldn't sell him.

If we are selling Id like to see us stick in a first option clause on a buy back

It's OK having them lined up but they may not sign. Taking a risk selling somebody before bringing in a replacement. On the other hand, I get that he wants to be playing regular football and I support his claim BUT what does he call regular football? Because we just came second in the league, if he wants to be starting in favour of Coutinho and Sterling then he's going to need to show how much he has improved. That's why its always difficult sending players out on loan to other countries because the comparisons are difficult to make.

I'd love for him to stay and I really want him to. I think he deserves a proper shot at it which he hasn't yet been given.

I think he deserves a proper shot at it which he hasn't yet been given.

Not a dig mate but I never can understand how people can say this about players. We don't see what Rodgers sees. I imagine Flanno and Sterling deserved their shots and when they did they took it.

Point being, if he deserved a proper shot and was good enough chances are Brendan would have given him what was due and there wouldn't be talk of us letting him f**k off for pennies a year before his contract is due.

People are looking into this far too much. The source is a shitty blog with quotes from some freelance writer who I'm sure if he had any sort of credit to him then we'd have heard of him before.

Until I see something from a RELIABLE or at least a half reliable source, I won't be giving any thought into any possibility of Suso leaving.

This all reminds me a bit of Dani when I first joined the board, he was the next greatest thing and people were always bemoaning him not getting minutes or being loaned out. In the end sometimes things just don't work out the way we think they will.

If BR let's Suso walk then he has a reason for it and I trust his judgement.

Can't compare Pacheco to Suso though mate Suso has already shown on loan last season he can cut it at the highest level, something Dani never did.

People are looking into this far too much. The source is a shitty blog with quotes from some freelance writer who I'm sure if he had any sort of credit to him then we'd have heard of him before.

Until I see something from a RELIABLE or at least a half reliable source, I won't be giving any thought into any possibility of Suso leaving.

Is right.

People are looking into this far too much. The source is a shitty blog with quotes from some freelance writer who I'm sure if he had any sort of credit to him then we'd have heard of him before.

Until I see something from a RELIABLE or at least a half reliable source, I won't be giving any thought into any possibility of Suso leaving.

Kin ell Kenny lad, it is June like. sh*te sources become great sources all of a sudden as long as they give us something to waffle about.

Kin ell Kenny lad, it is June like. Sh*te sources become great sources all of a sudden as long as they give us something to waffle about.

My mistake

Or Nemeth.

Can't compare Pacheco to Suso though mate Suso has already shown on loan last season he can cut it at the highest level, something Dani never did.

Not comparing the players, I was comparing the idea that everybody thought Dani was the end all be all and 4 managers later he still could not get time, as WAHS so aptly mentions, Brendan sees more of these guys in a week then we do in a year so I will go with what he thinks.

This all reminds me a bit of Dani when I first joined the board, he was the next greatest thing and people were always bemoaning him not getting minutes or being loaned out. In the end sometimes things just don't work out the way we think they will.

If BR let's Suso walk then he has a reason for it and I trust his judgement.

I don't know mate, I can't say I ever watched Pacheco and thought we've got a player on our hands here, he never really caught my eye. He just seemed to be one of those players everybody assumed was gonna do well but of course he never actually got a game. At least with Suso we have had the chance to see some decent performances in the first team, we've also seen him dominate at youth level for Spain and her has also had a good season on loan this past year. Pacheco on the other hand, I don't even know if he has made it stick at any club, let alone La Liga. I think Suso is a class above Pacheco but I can see the similarities in terms of the fans perception of the player.

People are looking into this far too much. The source is a shitty blog with quotes from some freelance writer who I'm sure if he had any sort of credit to him then we'd have heard of him before.

Until I see something from a RELIABLE or at least a half reliable source, I won't be giving any thought into any possibility of Suso leaving.

Apparently his agent (Juame Serra) has come out today and said nothing about Porto but that 3 Italian sides have enquired about him - they being AC Milan, Fiorentina and surprise surprise Rafa.

These are quotes directly attributed from him "My priority is to stay here[at Liverpool], but Porto is an excellent option if I leave Liverpool. I know there’s negotiations.

Porto are the best club in Portugal and they have faith in their youngsters. They also have a coach I like working with[Lopetegui].

I will only renew with Liverpool if I’m guaranteed I’ll play regularly. The option is clear if I don’t renew: let me leave.

I think Liverpool thinks the same. They won’t let me leave on a free in a year if I don’t renew. Let see what happens."

If we sell any of these youngsters, Alberto, Suso or Yesil, we have to insert buy back clauses. Apparently Arsenal are going to take up the option they put in to buy back Carlos Vela, years after he left the club. It's a good example of a player coming good a few years down the line. We can't afford to do what Chelsea did with Matic and just buy him back for a big fee, but at the same time we don't want to completely lose a player that could turn into a valuable member of our squad.

stay and fight please suso!!

if he must leave, please let it be AC Milan

He's a billion times better than Pacheco ever was. I'd be disappointed but at the end of the day if Brendan doesn't want him then not much left to do than sell him.

Think he'll be a fine player in the future if he does find a club he can settle at. Some lower EPL clubs could do a lot worse.

feel like this is just like the sahin situation. both players want to play central midfield but BR cannot offer that in his system. both players don't have the attributes to play wing, they can't play striker, and prefer not to play attacking mid.. but, we saw coutinho adapt to a central midfield role, the most advanced of the three but still with the responsibilities of tracking back and helping the engine room, coutinho's pressing is outstanding. why can't suso do this? perhaps the manager can see suso doesn't have the strength or something. it'll be interesting to go back and watch the games where we had suso (the only one firmly in my mind is the norwich game we played in purple and won 5-2) and see his pressing game, maybe it just isn't there or good enough for a career in the premier league.

Hope it's not true - it is the Mail afterall!

The only feasable way this deal could make sense is if Brendan doesn't see a future for the lad and it's also an oportunity for the club to change the terms of Balo's fee. It'll be a crying shame if he were to leave and I'd just hope Ayre would have at least some common sense and insist on buy-back or sell-on clauses.

I'd prefer him to stay personally... and I think he'd get 'some' playimg time. Plus - all it'll take is a couple of injuries to get further call-ups too.

Him and the strong rumours of Lucas going also is IMO one too many.

AC Milan in talks with Liverpool over signing Suso on a season-long loan deal

   
   AC Milan in talks to sign Liverpool midfielder Suso on a season-long loan
       Milan's offer includes a view to a permanent transfer next summer
       20-year-old has made just 20 appearances since his Anfield debut in 2012

By Simon Jones for MailOnline

Published: 11:22, 30 August 2014 | Updated: 13:36, 30 August 2014


Liverpool are in talks with AC Milan about offloading Suso on a season-long loan deal.

Milan's offer for the Spaniard includes the view to a permanent transfer the following summer.

The Spanish midfielder officially arrived from Cadiz CF in the summer of 2010 but has only made 20 appearances in total since making his debut in a Europa League victory over Swiss side Young Boys in 2012.

The 20-year-old spent last term on loan at Spanish side Almeria and is likely to find regular first team football hard to come by at Anfield this campaign.

Suso scored three goals in 33 league appearances for the La Liga outfit as they finished 17th - one point above safety last season.

If the Spaniard were to move to Italy, it would be the second transfer to happen between the clubs following Mario Balotelli's £16million move to Liverpool earlier in August.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2738382/Liverpool-midfielder-Suso-wanted-AC-Milan-season-long-loan-deal.html

Not sure if any truth in it, but his chances this season will be even more limited than last, so might not be a bad idea - get more regular football and see if he makes strides...

All for a loan out to a league that is competitive and is similar in style to the prem.
the Italian league would be a waste of his progression

Correct me If I'm wrong, but Isn't he on his final year of his contract?

Correct me If I'm wrong, but Isn't he on his final year of his contract?

Apparently he was offered 5 years but kicked it into touch.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/suso-wants-avoid-deadline-day-liverpool-exit-despite-contract-expiration-1463084

Really hope we can tie him down to a long contract and then send him out on loan for the last time before he returns for a proper role in the 15/16 season

Really hope we can tie him down to a long contract and then send him out on loan for the last time before he returns for a proper role in the 15/16 season

Yep. No disrespect to Almeria but it's best we raise the level of his loan club to a Champions League or Europa League competing side.

Yep. No disrespect to Almeria but it's best we raise the level of his loan club to a Champions League or Europa League competing side.

If he is good enough for a champions league or europa league standard side from any moderately competitive league and get significant minutes, he is probably good enough to just stay in the squad and get minutes from the bench.

Have a feeling this kid will never become a regular here.

Correct me If I'm wrong, but Isn't he on his final year of his contract?

yes , that why Milan want him on loan , so in 2015 when his contract expires , they can tie him up on a free
So for me its ridiculous to loan him in the last year of his contract, if he is not in BR plans (which is a pity) sell him now or offer him a new contract before you loan him

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Just reading this on the matter,  interesting

Suso himself, however, has attempted to quash reports of an exit at this moment in time, reiterating his desire to fight for a place in Brendan Rodgers’ lineup, while also rejecting the idea of a rumoured loan move to AC Milan.

‘Liverpool are not likely to sell me and I do not want to leave either. What I would like is to stay here,’ he told IB Times UK.

‘In December I will be free agent but what I want is to renew here. I am very happy. I know the city and the club and I would like to stay.

‘I only have one year left on my contract so I cannot go out on loan.’

for whole article>>>  http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014/08/31/liverpool-youngster-quashes-idea-of-deadline-day-exit/




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