Dejan Lovren (Liverpool > Zenit St Petersburg)

Think you guys are being a bit harsh on Lovren. None of the defence were good against Swansea but they were very all good against Man Utd, every now and again a player has an off day, it will happen to Matip as well, its when several players all have an off day at the same time that sh*t happens.

Think you guys are being a bit harsh on Lovren. None of the defence were good against Swansea but they were very all good against Man Utd, every now and again a player has an off day, it will happen to Matip as well, its when several players all have an off day at the same time that sh*t happens.

He's a bag of nerves.

Think you guys are being a bit harsh on Lovren. None of the defence were good against Swansea but they were very all good against Man Utd, every now and again a player has an off day, it will happen to Matip as well, its when several players all have an off day at the same time that sh*t happens.

It's not one ''off'' day, he has alot of ''off'' days which is worrying.

How sh*t was he tonight?

Boumsong level or Titus Bramble level?

Gonna have to pick up his performance levels tenfold. Absolutely tripe and can thank his lucky stars that he didn't cost us three points.

Needs to be benched for a quality CB next season.

Needs to be benched for a quality CB next season.

Sakho? 

Sakho? 

I definitely would have let Sakho make up for his F**k up's off the pitch on the pitch. Sakho made Lovren look better then he was last season I think, of course it could go both ways but Matip and Sakho seemed a stronger partnership.

Nothing much changed despite working under Jürgen, he will continue to have decent games but unfortunately still have games like where he is brain dead.

I'm sure Big Mick will have a explanation 

Let's hope with a little more game time Lovren and Matip can get on the same wavelength. Neither has pace, so positional intelligence is going to be important.

Let's hope with a little more game time Lovren and Matip can get on the same wavelength. Neither has pace, so positional intelligence is going to be important.

Let's hope we upgrade him this summer.

Is Lovren injured of has he got this mystery virus that Sturridge has too?

Is Lovren injured of has he got this mystery virus that Sturridge has too?

I was thinking the other day that his head is still pickled about that lumberjack...

I was thinking the other day that his head is still pickled about that lumberjack...

I'm a lumberjack and I'm ok, work all night and shag all day!!

Whenever he doesn't play we concede! Mind you whenever he does we concede also so maybe there's nothing in it.

Lumberjack?!  Eh?

Anyone else think he's too injury prone for a CB?

Anyone else think he's too injury prone for a CB?

Too inconsistent to be a first choice for a team aspiring for Top 4 ambitions.

I would be unhappy if we don't bring in a upgrade to partner Matip next season.

Sorry to say it but I'm not convinced by Matip either.

Sorry to say it but I'm not convinced by Matip either.

I think Matip is quality and when he's paired with a real CB (Lovren or even Klavan for instance) he looks pretty strong. When he's worried about his partner (Lucas) he overcommits and can be pulled out of position. 

Sorry to say it but I'm not convinced by Matip either.

He was class before his injury but just like Coutinho post injury been poor.

He was class before his injury but just like Coutinho post injury been poor.

Definitely gives the ball away a lot more than he did before.

Do you think it's physical re the injury, or that knowing he's not really being pushed for his place, just isn't as switched on for matches?

Definitely gives the ball away a lot more than he did before.

Do you think it's physical re the injury, or that knowing he's not really being pushed for his place, just isn't as switched on for matches?

No idea mate but I imagine it's not having a regular partner who he trusts and has confidence in.

Although I don't rate Lovren as good enough when they have both played together we have looked strongest at the back.