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      Alberto Moreno (Contract Expired)

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      PurpleMonkey
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1600: Dec 27, 2018 03:04:27 pm

      I certainly hope so, will be interesting to see the full transcript!
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1601: Dec 27, 2018 03:22:52 pm

      That or he's a whiney little bi*ch.
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1602: Dec 27, 2018 03:24:47 pm
      Nothing lost in translation id say.

      Not good enough and people shouldnt let our joy  at being top blind them to that fact. The boy cant defend.

      In his defence how someone thought he was a full back rafher then a left mid I dont know.
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1603: Dec 27, 2018 03:32:53 pm
      “I do not feel good, that is the truth,”

      “I hurt myself giving everything for this team and I think that when I came back from injury, I deserved an opportunity.

      “The situation is normal for a lot of players but simply I did not like the way he (Jürgen Klopp) has treated me, you can say that.

      “Moving back to Spain is something I have thought about, I am tired of the cold here but I do not know about interests from other clubs.

      “I am in my fifth year here, there is no agreement on a renewal and in January I am free to listen to any offer.”

      https://www.football-espana.net/76109/liverpools-alberto-moreno-jurgen-klopp-has-not-treated-me-well

      Am willing to chip into a fund to buy him a ticket back...
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1604: Dec 27, 2018 04:02:40 pm
      Just before this blows up with the usual Albie haters on here, this is the actual translation before a click-bait hack site got hold of it:

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      "The relationship with Klopp. "I don't feel good, to tell you the truth. I injured myself while giving everything for the team, I think that, when I came back, I deserved a chance. I don't like the way Klopp handled it, but it's up to the coach to decide.

      I keep on training to be at 100% when the opportunity arises. Since I've injured myself, I've spoken with him, but not a one on one about this topic. The situation is normal but it's just that the way he treated me, I didn't like it.

      I understand his position as well, if a player is doing well, and the team is doing well, you will think about how to change it"

      Seems fair. It's a very literal translation, essentially he didn't like the decision but he's still training hard and waiting for his chance which he accepts he may have to keep waiting for.

      He's entitled to his opinion after all, and it's balanced. He'll be gone in the summer anyway.
      « Last Edit: Dec 27, 2018 04:08:57 pm by LFC-LCFC »
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1605: Dec 27, 2018 04:16:08 pm

      Which would be kinda apropos given Bertie’s penchant for getting “lost in transition” 😉
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1606: Dec 27, 2018 04:32:08 pm
      Albie haters?

      Is that people who see hes regularly caught out of position and is a safe bet for 1 rash tackle per game?
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1607: Dec 27, 2018 04:32:50 pm
      He ain't good enough is why Klopp isn't playing him, when he plays you know there's a f**k up coming, should be no where near the defence, might be a nice enough guy but as a footballer he's no where near the quality we need, even as back up.
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1608: Dec 27, 2018 04:42:23 pm
      Having Robertson just confirmed what standard we need at left back. The ability between the two players is night and day - which is obviously bad for Moreno
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1609: Dec 27, 2018 04:44:38 pm
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      Since I've injured myself, I've spoken with him, but not a one on one about this topic.

      Why not talk about it with him?

      Klopp: Alberto I'll go with the hot hand Robbo, you know the business, but I respect you and therefore give you my honest stand, Robbo is just a bit better, that's my opinion right now, because 1., 2., 3.; don't let it bring you down, keep working, first you know how it is, look at Clyne and TAA, the latter used the opportunity while the first was injured and kept the job, second we are a team and everyone needs pushing, in any venture there will be always guys that are in the 2nd row, they do not shine, but they are important as well...so keep working hard, at least then you cannot blame yourself while we cannot blame you to waste your paycheck.

      I think such a short talk would do wonders. The way Moreno talks is borderline dangerous and disrespectful and if Robbo should get injured I dunno if Alberto would give 110% with his current attitude. But then football became so businesslike, Klopp would probably laugh at my suggestion.
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1610: Dec 27, 2018 04:46:26 pm
      Why not talk about it with him?

      Klopp: Alberto I'll go with the hot hand Robbo, you know the business, but I respect you and therefore give you my honest stand, Robbo is just a bit better, that's my opinion right now, because 1., 2., 3.; don't let it bring you down, keep working, first you know how it is, look at Clyne and TAA, the latter used the opportunity while the first was injured and kept the job, second we are a team and everyone needs pushing, in any venture there will be always guys that are in the 2nd row, they do not shine, but they are important as well...so keep working hard, at least then you cannot blame yourself while we cannot blame you to waste your paycheck.

      I think such a short talk would do wonders. The way Moreno talks is borderline dangerous and disrespectful and if Robbo should get injured I dunno if Alberto would give 110% with his current attitude. But then football became so businesslike, Klopp would probably laugh at my suggestion.

      Ha ha your posts crack me up
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1611: Dec 27, 2018 07:40:55 pm
      Yeah because he is clearly the better player between himself and Robbo. What a load of sh*t, you aren’t chosen lad because your a disaster waiting to happen.

      Why is it we seem to have a coupe of muppet players? Migs last season was moaning about not being 1st choice instead of getting his head down and working his bollocks off and now Moreno. Migs was in the time of our great Champions League run and Moreno is when we are having our best season...something that is partly down to the clown not playing.

      Don’t worry Moreno, you are free to leave, no one wants you here anyway!

      Pretty much sealed his fate for the rest of the season now.
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1612: Dec 27, 2018 07:59:49 pm
      Will anyone talk to him in January, may as well take him if you ask me.  Weakest link in the squad.  Not needed.
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1613: Dec 27, 2018 08:00:33 pm
      Always be careful with translated quotes. They very rarely mean what they’re translated from. I’d love to see the Spanish transcript and see what a Spanish speaker thinks of his comments.
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1614: Dec 27, 2018 08:06:25 pm
      Seems very out of character and not great timing when he was prob going to play the Cup game but i suspect there has been a bit of media twists
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1615: Dec 27, 2018 08:20:35 pm
      Always be careful with translated quotes. They very rarely mean what they’re translated from. I’d love to see the Spanish transcript and see what a Spanish speaker thinks of his comments.

      Seems very out of character and not great timing when he was prob going to play the Cup game but i suspect there has been a bit of media twists

      Exactly. But hey, any stick to beat a player with that's generally not liked, is good enough. We've seen it after Lovren's interview where he said he hoped we'd go unbeaten.

      Moreno has been a model professional off the pitch ever since Klopp arrived. He didn't make a fuss when he was the second choice to Milner all season and he didn't make one last season when losing his place to Robertson. Why would he suddenly do so now? Yes, he's not good enough to be first choice.

      Not sure what people expect him to say when he is being asked the question? "Yes, I'm happy as can be as a professional football player spending my time on the bench after a series of injuries with my best years in front of me."? Nothing wrong with him stating he's not happy with the current situation. I'd be far more concerned if he actually was while collecting his weekly wages.

      Perhaps he expected a little more rotation with Robertson, as most of us probably expected?

      Seems to me that it has been taken out of context / wrongly translated.
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1616: Dec 27, 2018 08:29:42 pm
      Just finally found out his contract isn't getting renewed in the summer.
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1617: Dec 27, 2018 08:32:53 pm
      Heard some posts about him not being that bad.

      If he plays all season we're almost definitely not first!

      I'm sure Klopp would love to rotate Robbo but doesn't rate Moreno enough to risk it.

      I was in the same thought against Newcastle but it's a real risk to play him.
      « Last Edit: Dec 27, 2018 08:41:42 pm by fields of anny rd »
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1618: Dec 27, 2018 08:34:53 pm
      Can't see the problem here. Simply Liverpool have moved on and he's not good enough.
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1619: Dec 27, 2018 09:46:08 pm
      Exactly. But hey, any stick to beat a player with that's generally not liked, is good enough. We've seen it after Lovren's interview where he said he hoped we'd go unbeaten.

      Moreno has been a model professional off the pitch ever since Klopp arrived. He didn't make a fuss when he was the second choice to Milner all season and he didn't make one last season when losing his place to Robertson. Why would he suddenly do so now? Yes, he's not good enough to be first choice.

      Not sure what people expect him to say when he is being asked the question? "Yes, I'm happy as can be as a professional football player spending my time on the bench after a series of injuries with my best years in front of me."? Nothing wrong with him stating he's not happy with the current situation. I'd be far more concerned if he actually was while collecting his weekly wages.

      Perhaps he expected a little more rotation with Robertson, as most of us probably expected?

      Seems to me that it has been taken out of context / wrongly translated.

      Guilty - I made a cheap pun earlier.....but it was in jest.

      In truth none of us who aren’t competent Spanish speakers know if he’s been misquoted.

      It does however seem out of character.
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1620: Dec 27, 2018 09:59:01 pm
      Albie haters?

      Is that people who see hes regularly caught out of position and is a safe bet for 1 rash tackle per game?

      People who will actually watch out for any negatives in his performance whilst overlooking the same mistakes others make in the same team.

      Also the type of people who verbally shout him sh*t on a match day if he's actually playing. Plenty of those people about and they can all get in the f**king bin.
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1621: Dec 27, 2018 10:08:13 pm
      People who will actually watch out for any negatives in his performance whilst overlooking the same mistakes others make in the same team.

      Also the type of people who verbally shout him sh*t on a match day if he's actually playing. Plenty of those people about and they can all get in the f**king bin.

      Find most of the time he makes it easy for people watching out for his negatives

      Anyway, not good enough but appears to be popular enough amongst the squad
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1622: Dec 27, 2018 10:12:35 pm
      Pretty sure Klopp will send him on his way in Jan and we’ll be looking for a LB
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1623: Dec 27, 2018 11:18:56 pm
      Just seen some quotes from Moreno on SSN complaining about how Klopp has treated him “badly”. You will be the only one complaining fella. A January departure could be on the cards me thinks. He is right up there with some of the worst signings the club has ever made for me.
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      Re: Alberto Moreno Player Thread
      Reply #1624: Dec 27, 2018 11:31:04 pm
      Just seen some quotes from Moreno on SSN complaining about how Klopp has treated him “badly”. You will be the only one complaining fella. A January departure could be on the cards me thinks. He is right up there with some of the worst signings the club has ever made for me.

      I must believe that his response to the question was perhaps lost in translation
      Personally I have been impressed by his attitude over the years.
      Yes, he has been at times a liability and made some crucial mistakes but I wouldn’t put him in the bracket of some of the worst signings we have ever made.
      He is though incredibly frustrating at times and I agree with the club not offering a new contract.
      Robbo certainly needs some proper competition for the left back role

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