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      Liverpool 0-3 Real Madrid: In game and Post Match Disappointment

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      Re: Liverpool 0-3 Real Madrid: In game and Post Match Disappointment
      Reply #736: Oct 23, 2014 09:56:28 am
      Might be better if we qualify for the last 16 as we may then be able to attract better players at Christmas on the back of THIS years CL.

      Two good wins against Basle and Ludo should be enough to see us through, buy a decent striker, a goalkeeper and a new defence in the transfer window and we are set up for a late run for top four.   

      By the time the knock out games come around in February  .... you never know, maybe miracles can happen twice. 



      Rodgers already eluded to the fact that the last window would see us through a few more without buying too many players. As long as this current form continues, I would rather see us out of CL and concentrating all efforts on PL. If we suddenly found a new gear then ofcourse I would love to go as far as we can but I dont see it happening.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-3 Real Madrid: In game and Post Match Disappointment
      Reply #737: Oct 23, 2014 09:58:37 am
      If we get beat by a better team I can take it but what I cant take it our lack of fight and bottle. We never tried to disrupt them at all with clever fouls, we were never aggressive when they got near our box and just sat back and watched them, we never put the boot in.....we basically thought they were better than us and showed them far too much respect.

      Top teams know when to foul, to be aggressive, to feign injury, to slow the tempo. Casillas doing his gloves up is a prime example when they were down to 10 men of game management. That joker Pepe going down, making clever fouls when needed....hes a jerk but he has game management and they used it all to their advantage.

      We need to be more clever and a lot more aggressive. I have called for some time to have a bit more nastiness in the team, to rile the opponents but we don't seem to have that type of character in the team yet and I think that must be addressed.
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      Reply #738: Oct 23, 2014 10:01:27 am
      Am not going to criticise our forward players. Coutinho, Allen and Sterling showed good energy going forward. It's our defenders and Mignolet I was disappointed in. Just not good enough. Real Madrid ought to earn their goals, yet we decided Christmas had come early and decided to gift them their last two goals.

      Big question - will Sturridge somehow be fit for the game in Madrid?

      We need to play this one much differently.
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      Reply #739: Oct 23, 2014 10:02:33 am
      For once I thought the defence played ok. However a massive issue we have (and it has been pointed out already) is Migs\back four F***ing about inviting pressure, as Gary Neville says - we pass it about for 5-6 passes, create massive pressue on ourselves and then every single time Migs gives it to the opposition, what is the F***ing point?

      I still think if Ballotelli has played Sterling in in the first minute things could have been different, he may be an ok player but he is a posionous character and not a team player. Glad he got taken off, and I am glad BR said he needed more intensity.

      I was more happy last night than I was against QPR.
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      Reply #740: Oct 23, 2014 10:02:49 am
      I thought the crowd had a resigned atmosphere to it last night and when the first goal went in it "oh well".
      lets be honest any time RM wanted to step up and score more goals they could have  so I don't get Rodgers telling us we did well second half and he is proud etc of his players.
      At least we don't have to go to Spain and play them again.....oh sh*t
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      Reply #741: Oct 23, 2014 10:08:32 am
      sh1te sh1te sh1te. thats the most negative I will ever get.

      Ive been saying wario will come good, but u know waht fek him we cant wait any longer, give his plumber brother fabio a game. ;D.

      Not all strikers fault, we need to sort defence out soon, 1st gola was skills, other 2 could have been prevented, just like most goals we concede.

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      Reply #742: Oct 23, 2014 10:10:46 am
      Was very dissapointed like everyone else with the result but all we need is an organised defence and 2 great strikers and we would be competing, we already have one excellent striker who is unfortunately injured. Seriously Brendan has to bite the bullett and bring in a specialist to sort out this defence becuase whatever they are doing at the moment just isn't working. For the time being I'd play with 3 CB's, we have to shore up the defence until we can start scoring goals again.
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      Reply #743: Oct 23, 2014 10:17:18 am
      Rafa's believed all goals stem from a mistake and he is right.So stop making stupid mistakes and you have a chance.
      God only knows how we will set up in Madrid I suggest a 6-4-0 set up.
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      Reply #744: Oct 23, 2014 10:32:26 am
      I must admit this bit annoyed me as well mate.

      Me as well.
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      Reply #745: Oct 23, 2014 10:42:48 am
      Don't know what to say.

      Over a year now without the ability to defend.
      Was funny when Suarez and Sturridge were tearing teams apart.
      Not so much now.

      20 Million spent on a defender that's nowhere near Agger's level.
      Reina let leave for nothing. Mignolet's confidence through the floor.
      Johnson walking back into the first team.
      Gerrard still playing 3 games a week.

      WHY CAN WE NOT DEFEND SET PIECES?
      This has to be addressed surely.
      KEEP A F***ing CLEAN SHEET, YOU cu*ts!

      EDIT:
      Can should have come on for Gerrard, not Coutinho.
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      Reply #746: Oct 23, 2014 10:48:05 am
      Rafa's believed all goals stem from a mistake and he is right.So stop making stupid mistakes and you have a chance.
      God only knows how we will set up in Madrid I suggest a 6-4-0 set up.

      Yo Walton.

      Rafa had read about the great Arsenal team of the Thirties ... who worked on that very theory.

      Its true.
      Go back far enough and every goal can be traced back to your own team either not doing something they should have done ... or doing something they shouldn't have.

      ( I dont believe Rafa read Fergiescum books and tried to do a "whose name is in the envelope" tricks )
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      Reply #747: Oct 23, 2014 11:00:36 am
      I didn't believe Brendan was the messiah last season when we were playing well (that would be Luis), and I don't believe Brendan is the devil now we are struggling.

      We just need to have a little patience and a lot of faith that we can turn our piss poor form around once Sturridge is fit, that we can solve the defensive problems by shooting a couple of players and hoping that Mignolet picks up a trick or two off Jesus and becomes more comfortable with crosses. 

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      Reply #748: Oct 23, 2014 11:13:12 am
      The thing is that madrid team is very expensively put together. The most expensive in history. Yet I feel the have a soft centre. They don't have great characters in the team just players. We at some points after we stopped pressing, were in 1 straight line across our box. Our shape is abysmal some times, it's like we press and pass and move and then realise we've left half the ground undefended. Madrid were overloading down johnsons side naturally as he tends to go more. We should know this but who was helping down this side. Look at dortmund they harass they press they aren't richer than us but they keep getting results. Same with atletico. I feel we have the philosophy of pass and move and possession etc in place but we don't do it as a team. Having said that, you give us kroos and Varane and it would probably be a whole different story
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      Reply #749: Oct 23, 2014 11:18:25 am
      Feast or famine for some. Disappointment is fine but some posts have made those numpties that call 606 and Talksport sound sane.
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      Reply #750: Oct 23, 2014 11:20:37 am
      I didn't believe Brendan was the messiah last season when we were playing well (that would be Luis), and I don't believe Brendan is the devil now we are struggling.

      We just need to have a little patience and a lot of faith that we can turn our piss poor form around once Sturridge is fit, that we can solve the defensive problems by shooting a couple of players and hoping that Mignolet picks up a trick or two off Jesus and becomes more comfortable with crosses.

      I think a few do though S@int, think he is the devil that is. I've realised the post count has gone up from some posters just recently, they must have been licking their licks like a rabid pack of dogs waiting to get stuck into him.

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      Reply #751: Oct 23, 2014 11:37:58 am
      Two points though:

      1. I called out Lovren in my post as well. He has been sh*te all season so far and also needs to be dropped.

      2. Lovren (as well as the rest of our players) at least shows passion, desire, and commitment to the team.

      Balotelli has shown a bit of effort in small spurts, but if things don't happen for him then he sulks, gets lazy, and refuses to pass the ball whenever it does manage to make its way to him. He is the antithesis of a team player, which completely contradicts the ethos that BR's tactics are designed around.

      Yes but what you failed to do is recognise that there are mitigating circumstances that are contributing (not causing) to their poor performances. Whilst they're in no way blameless, there's also the fact that Lovren has apparently never played on the left side of Centre Back and Balotelli is not, by any stretch of the imagination, the type of player that plays as a loan striker in our style of play. Therefore, with those mitigating circumstances considered, Brendan Rodgers also needs to take criticism for playing them in ways that doesn't get the best out of them. Then the owners need to take criticism for their seeming refusal to sanction high wages to a new signee which leads to a lower quality of player than we need to accomplish their ambitions for the club. Hence my saying there's a collective failure at our club from top to bottom; from the owners to the entire coaching staff to the players themselves. No one person is solely to blame for our troubles; all are to blame for our troubles. Or to put it more simply, it's six of one, half a dozen of the other but some people on here and certainly in the media are portraying Mario has the Devil incarnate, solely responsible for all our problems whilst everyone else is blameless and that's unfair.
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      Reply #752: Oct 23, 2014 12:03:05 pm
      Yes but what you failed to do is recognise that there are mitigating circumstances that are contributing (not causing) to their poor performances. Whilst they're in no way blameless, there's also the fact that Lovren has apparently never played on the left side of Centre Back and Balotelli is not, by any stretch of the imagination, the type of player that plays as a loan striker in our style of play. Therefore, with those mitigating circumstances considered, Brendan Rodgers also needs to take criticism for playing them in ways that doesn't get the best out of them. Then the owners need to take criticism for their seeming refusal to sanction high wages to a new signee which leads to a lower quality of player than we need to accomplish their ambitions for the club. Hence my saying there's a collective failure at our club from top to bottom; from the owners to the entire coaching staff to the players themselves. No one person is solely to blame for our troubles; all are to blame for our troubles. Or to put it more simply, it's six of one, half a dozen of the other but some people on here and certainly in the media are portraying Mario has the Devil incarnate, solely responsible for all our problems whilst everyone else is blameless and that's unfair.

      Not sure where you got your information from mate, but Lovren's preferred side is left centre back and Balotelli was the most successful lone striker in Europe last season.

      Brendan Rodgers :- "Dejan Lovren has come in and he's played the majority of his career on the left side (as a central defender) and with Martin Skrtel being injured he has had to move across to the right hand side.
       That might only seem a simple 10 yard change but it can make a big difference because he's used to that zone on the left side"


      I do agree that Balotelli doesn't fit our style of play, but it is not a position that he is a stranger to. 
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      Reply #753: Oct 23, 2014 12:38:23 pm
      The thing that annoys me the most is the level of respect we have given them. Actually it goes past respect, we were in awe of them when only 5months ago we were doing that and better. Even the post match chat BR's comments sound like we are somehow SOOO inferior then them. Yes they are better but are we upper Echelon or not? FFS.

      We are slipping here lads.
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      Reply #754: Oct 23, 2014 12:42:37 pm
      Not sure where you got your information from mate, but Lovren's preferred side is left centre back and Balotelli was the most successful lone striker in Europe last season.

      Brendan Rodgers :- "Dejan Lovren has come in and he's played the majority of his career on the left side (as a central defender) and with Martin Skrtel being injured he has had to move across to the right hand side.
       That might only seem a simple 10 yard change but it can make a big difference because he's used to that zone on the left side"


      I do agree that Balotelli doesn't fit our style of play, but it is not a position that he is a stranger to.

      I stand corrected on those points then. However, when I talk about 'lone striker' I don't mean as opposed to playing with a strike partner, I mean in terms of being the focal point of the attack, if that makes sense? Positional mistakes aside, the wider point I'm trying to make though is that the problems at our club run far deeper than Balotelli's poor performances. He's a problem, not the problem and that's all I'm trying to say.
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      Reply #755: Oct 23, 2014 12:52:29 pm
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      Reply #756: Oct 23, 2014 12:52:47 pm
      Two good wins against Basle and Ludo should be enough to see us through,
      Provided no silly mistakes!
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      Reply #757: Oct 23, 2014 01:12:49 pm

      God bless I have to get over there and experience this before they plant me....gives me goose bumps everytime.  :kop5cf8koxp6:
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      Reply #758: Oct 23, 2014 01:36:18 pm
      Balotelli was the most successful lone striker in Europe last season.

      Who are you comparing Mario to here?

      And out of curiosity, how many of Balotellis goals came from the spot kick? I genuinely don't know the answer?

      Because its clear to anybody he is crying out for another striker to play up alongside him at the moment, and he naturally won't score as many goals because Stevie takes our pens.



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