The summer transfer conundrum

Brendan Rodgers transfers:

Transfers in	.	.	Fee paid
Fabio Borini	.	.	£10,000,000
Joe Allen	.	.	£15,000,000
Oussama Assaidi	.	.	£2,400,000
Daniel Sturridge	.	.	£12,000,000
Philippe Coutinho	.	.	£8,500,000
Luis Alberto	.	.	£6,800,000
Iago Aspas	.	.	£7,000,000
Simon Mignolet	.	.	£9,000,000
Kolo Touré	.	.	Free
Tiago Ilori	.	.	£7,000,000
Mamadou Sakho	.	.	£15,000,000
Rickie Lambert	.	.	£4,000,000
Adam Lallana	.	.	£25,000,000
Emre Can	.	.	£9,750,000
Lazar Marković	.	.	£19,800,000
Dejan Lovren	.	.	£20,000,000
Divock Origi	.	.	£10,000,000
Alberto Moreno	.	.	£12,000,000
Mario Balotelli	.	.	£16,000,000
.	.	.	.

Total paid (Gross)

.

.

£209,250,000

Figures from Wikipedea

Ironically, the player who represents the best value for money is Touré because he was free. The worst value for money (so far) would be Origi who hasn't even kicked a ball for us yet. But beyond that, does this really represent value for money spent? With that much money spent (gross), could we not have bought higher quality players and built a competitive squad? That's more than Chelsea (£211,930,000) in the same period of time and they're currently league leaders and look unstoppable right about now. Even if you convert that to net spending - £123,450,000 - that's an awful lot of money spent with not a lot to show for it. I think on the whole it's safe to say the one area Brendan Rodgers is lacking in is an eye for talent.

I think on the whole it's safe to say the one area Brendan Rodgers is lacking in is an eye for talent.

I also think the Suarez money has put Brendan in a "kid in a candy store" situation, he's overwhelmed by the amount of money he has at his disposal and proceeds to go crazy. For a former Reading and Swansea manager (no disrespect for the teams) to come to a top club and being asked to spend silly money, inexperience could get in the way. Assaidi, Luis Alberto, Aspas were never really needed in the the team - unnecessary purchases as could have made do without them. Now Markovic might end up the same fate, but this lad cost a bomb so I hope not. Had he focused on buying a good replacement for Suarez first instead of making wholesale changes - which has resulted in the players struggling to get any sort of team cohesion - we probably wouldn't have performed this badly. Balotelli was always a panic buy after our failure to land Remy, Wilfried Bony, Eto'o etc - but Brendan probably thought shopping at the As-Is section for a £16m bargain would cut him some slack as its not expensive -- however he's realising now he can't hide the bigger mess he's made from his failures in the transfer windows.

I enjoy how all you are flapping about our transfers when over the summer we bought for the future. The only 'risk' was signing balotelli and tbh he's not helped himself some times but he does work harder than he ever has and he's not partnered Sturridgr yet! Just give it time and he'll come good and our youngsters will come good!

I enjoy how all you are flapping about our transfers when over the summer we bought for the future. The only 'risk' was signing balotelli and tbh he's not helped himself some times but he does work harder than he ever has and he's not partnered Sturridgr yet! Just give it time and he'll come good and our youngsters will come good!

You may well be right and in the future all these players will come good however all the other sides at the top bought talent that is ready to play now and not in a couple of years.
I'm not buying this, we bought for the future talk, because we are in the CL now and want to stay there each season.
Yes, BR wants the players to develop for the long term but he would have expected most of those to make an impact now.
We simply can't give time to 8 or 9 players. Other sides bought players that have made instant impacts and for the 2nd season running we haven't.
BR ability with the cheque book does worry me.

I enjoy how all you are flapping about our transfers when over the summer we bought for the future.

I enjoy coming on here and learning from the cool dudes that I shouldn't flap. 'Cause  there's always next year :don't ya know?   

Heck - to think I was one of them : where did it all go wrong ?

I enjoy how all you are flapping about our transfers when over the summer we bought for the future. The only 'risk' was signing balotelli and tbh he's not helped himself some times but he does work harder than he ever has and he's not partnered Sturridgr yet! Just give it time and he'll come good and our youngsters will come good!

Here fella, you're gonna need this.

is this Sturridgr a new signing Brendan has been keeping quiet

is this Sturridgr a new signing Brendan has been keeping quiet

Hope he is good............

I enjoy how all you are flapping about our transfers when over the summer we bought for the future. The only 'risk' was signing balotelli and tbh he's not helped himself some times but he does work harder than he ever has and he's not partnered Sturridgr yet! Just give it time and he'll come good and our youngsters will come good!

The future never comes. Let's clear this stupid myth up. Buying for the future does not work. Why? Because if you are not successful those 'ones for the future' will bugger off and join a club that is. 'Ones for the future' should only be bought when you have all the 'ones for now' in the club.

Brendan Rodgers transfers:

Transfers in	.	.	Fee paid
Fabio Borini	.	.	£10,000,000
Joe Allen	.	.	£15,000,000
Oussama Assaidi	.	.	£2,400,000
Daniel Sturridge	.	.	£12,000,000
Philippe Coutinho	.	.	£8,500,000
Luis Alberto	.	.	£6,800,000
Iago Aspas	.	.	£7,000,000
Simon Mignolet	.	.	£9,000,000
Kolo Touré	.	.	Free
Tiago Ilori	.	.	£7,000,000
Mamadou Sakho	.	.	£15,000,000
Rickie Lambert	.	.	£4,000,000
Adam Lallana	.	.	£25,000,000
Emre Can	.	.	£9,750,000
Lazar Marković	.	.	£19,800,000
Dejan Lovren	.	.	£20,000,000
Divock Origi	.	.	£10,000,000
Alberto Moreno	.	.	£12,000,000
Mario Balotelli	.	.	£16,000,000
.	.	.	.

Total paid (Gross)

.

.

£209,250,000

Figures from Wikipedea

F**k me he's spent some money on some sh*te.

Aspas, Alberto and Borini = money for a world class player.

F**k me he's spent some money on some sh*te.

Aspas, Alberto and Borini = money for a world class player.

When we stop spending ridiculous fees on players like Markovic and Lovren, we may stand a chance of progressing. I'd like to see us swallow a bit of pride and break the bank for a Reus or Higuain.

Brendan Rodgers transfers:

Transfers in	.	.	Fee paid
Fabio Borini	.	.	£10,000,000
Joe Allen	.	.	£15,000,000
Oussama Assaidi	.	.	£2,400,000
Daniel Sturridge	.	.	£12,000,000
Philippe Coutinho	.	.	£8,500,000
Luis Alberto	.	.	£6,800,000
Iago Aspas	.	.	£7,000,000
Simon Mignolet	.	.	£9,000,000
Kolo Touré	.	.	Free
Tiago Ilori	.	.	£7,000,000
Mamadou Sakho	.	.	£15,000,000
Rickie Lambert	.	.	£4,000,000
Adam Lallana	.	.	£25,000,000
Emre Can	.	.	£9,750,000
Lazar Marković	.	.	£19,800,000
Dejan Lovren	.	.	£20,000,000
Divock Origi	.	.	£10,000,000
Alberto Moreno	.	.	£12,000,000
Mario Balotelli	.	.	£16,000,000
.	.	.	.

Total paid (Gross)

.

.

£209,250,000

Figures from Wikipedea

Ironically, the player who represents the best value for money is Touré because he was free. The worst value for money (so far) would be Origi who hasn't even kicked a ball for us yet. But beyond that, does this really represent value for money spent? With that much money spent (gross), could we not have bought higher quality players and built a competitive squad? That's more than Chelsea (£211,930,000) in the same period of time and they're currently league leaders and look unstoppable right about now. Even if you convert that to net spending - £123,450,000 - that's an awful lot of money spent with not a lot to show for it. I think on the whole it's safe to say the one area Brendan Rodgers is lacking in is an eye for talent.

Fcin ell did you have to put that list up that is one mighty cluster fck of a transfer binge ruined my day .

Liverpool Transfers in	.	.	Fee paid	.	.	.	.	Chelsea Transfers in	.	.	Fee paid
Fabio Borini	.	.	£10,000,000	.	.	.	.	Marko Marin	.	.	£6,294,711
Joe Allen	.	.	£15,000,000	.	.	.	.	Eden Hazard	.	.	£32,000,000
Oussama Assaidi	.	.	£2,400,000	.	.	.	.	Thorgan Hazard	.	.	£786,838
Daniel Sturridge	.	.	£12,000,000	.	.	.	.	Oscar	.	.	£19,500,000
Philippe Coutinho	.	.	£8,500,000	.	.	.	.	César Azpilicueta	.	.	£7,000,000
Luis Alberto	.	.	£6,800,000	.	.	.	.	Victor Moses	.	.	£7,000,000
Iago Aspas	.	.	£7,000,000	.	.	.	.	Wallace	.	.	£4,016,224
Simon Mignolet	.	.	£9,000,000	.	.	.	.	Demba Ba	.	.	£7,000,000
Kolo Touré	.	.	Free	.	.	.	.	André Schürrle	.	.	£18,700,000
Tiago Ilori	.	.	£7,000,000	.	.	.	.	Marco van Ginkel	.	.	£8,000,000
Mamadou Sakho	.	.	£15,000,000	.	.	.	.	Mark Schwarzer	.	.	Free
Rickie Lambert	.	.	£4,000,000	.	.	.	.	Cristián Cuevas	.	.	£1,700,000
Adam Lallana	.	.	£25,000,000	.	.	.	.	Willian	.	.	£30,000,000
Emre Can	.	.	£9,750,000	.	.	.	.	Samuel Eto'o	.	.	£2,000,000
Lazar Marković	.	.	£19,800,000	.	.	.	.	Christian Atsu	.	.	£3,500,000
Dejan Lovren	.	.	£20,000,000	.	.	.	.	Nemanja Matić	.	.	£21,000,000
Divock Origi	.	.	£10,000,000	.	.	.	.	Mohamed Salah	.	.	£11,000,000
Alberto Moreno	.	.	£12,000,000	.	.	.	.	Kurt Zouma	.	.	£12,500,000
Mario Balotelli	.	.	£16,000,000	.	.	.	.	Cesc Fàbregas	.	.	£27,000,000
Diego Costa	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	Diego Costa	.	.	£32,000,000
.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	Filipe Luís	.	.	£15,800,000
.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	Didier Drogba	.	.	Free
.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	Loïc Rémy	.	.	£10,500,000
.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	awoihoaw	.	.	Fee paid
Total paid (Gross)	.	.	£209,250,000	.	.	.	.	Total paid (Gross)	.	.	£277,297,773
Total paid (Net)	.	.	£123,450,000	.	.	.	.	Total paid (Net)	.	.	£102,497,773

Figures from Wikipedea

Carrying on from my last list of transfers, I've used Chelsea, as league leaders, as the comparison. This list doesn't include all their signings. For ease of the comparison, not to mention my brain, I've not listed players with undisclosed fees. None of those players are major players.

What isn't surprising is that Chelsea brought in higher quality players over the same period of time Brendan Rodgers has been Liverpool's manager. What is surprising is that they spent less doing that. I think this puts pale to the claim that FSG aren't backing him with the money he needs.

Obviously there are other factors to consider such as players not wanting to come to us but as is proven with City and United, not all high quality players are obsessed with London so I do feel we could have done better than we have.

On a side note, for heaven's sake, whomever is the forum's admin, set the board to HTML. Having to do a manual table is a pain in the arse.

Brendan Rodgers transfers:

Transfers in	.	.	Fee paid
Fabio Borini	.	.	£10,000,000
Joe Allen	.	.	£15,000,000
Oussama Assaidi	.	.	£2,400,000
Daniel Sturridge	.	.	£12,000,000
Philippe Coutinho	.	.	£8,500,000
Luis Alberto	.	.	£6,800,000
Iago Aspas	.	.	£7,000,000
Simon Mignolet	.	.	£9,000,000
Kolo Touré	.	.	Free
Tiago Ilori	.	.	£7,000,000
Mamadou Sakho	.	.	£15,000,000
Rickie Lambert	.	.	£4,000,000
Adam Lallana	.	.	£25,000,000
Emre Can	.	.	£9,750,000
Lazar Marković	.	.	£19,800,000
Dejan Lovren	.	.	£20,000,000
Divock Origi	.	.	£10,000,000
Alberto Moreno	.	.	£12,000,000
Mario Balotelli	.	.	£16,000,000
.	.	.	.

Total paid (Gross)

.

.

£209,250,000

Figures from Wikipedea

Ironically, the player who represents the best value for money is Touré because he was free. The worst value for money (so far) would be Origi who hasn't even kicked a ball for us yet. But beyond that, does this really represent value for money spent? With that much money spent (gross), could we not have bought higher quality players and built a competitive squad? That's more than Chelsea (£211,930,000) in the same period of time and they're currently league leaders and look unstoppable right about now. Even if you convert that to net spending - £123,450,000 - that's an awful lot of money spent with not a lot to show for it. I think on the whole it's safe to say the one area Brendan Rodgers is lacking in is an eye for talent.

smh, we paid 25 mil for borini and allen =)) almost 20 on aspas and alberto, are you having a f**king laugh , 70 for markovic, lallana, lovren and lambert, f**king hell, while chelsea paid 70 for diego costa and fabregas , and 15 more for filipe luis ... this is like my cousin when he plays football manager and makes shocking transfers, but he's 11

Not to mention the loan fees for:

Sahin - £5m reportedly
Moses - £1m
Cissokho - £1m
Manquillo - £2m

Now don't look at those figures support the manager ignore the performances and have patience! We'll be fine come January....

Something has to change with how we conduct our transfer business, some of us have been saying this forever.

Now don't look at those figures support the manager ignore the performances and have patience! We'll be fine come January....

So you don't  support the manager Luke?

Something has to change with how we conduct our transfer business, some of us have been saying this forever.

I think most have not just some

Guess F***ing what...

We finished above Chelsea last year.

Brendan Rodgers transfers:

Transfers in	.	.	Fee paid
Fabio Borini	.	.	£10,000,000
Joe Allen	.	.	£15,000,000
Oussama Assaidi	.	.	£2,400,000
Daniel Sturridge	.	.	£12,000,000
Philippe Coutinho	.	.	£8,500,000
Luis Alberto	.	.	£6,800,000
Iago Aspas	.	.	£7,000,000
Simon Mignolet	.	.	£9,000,000
Kolo Touré	.	.	Free
Tiago Ilori	.	.	£7,000,000
Mamadou Sakho	.	.	£15,000,000
Rickie Lambert	.	.	£4,000,000
Adam Lallana	.	.	£25,000,000
Emre Can	.	.	£9,750,000
Lazar Marković	.	.	£19,800,000
Dejan Lovren	.	.	£20,000,000
Divock Origi	.	.	£10,000,000
Alberto Moreno	.	.	£12,000,000
Mario Balotelli	.	.	£16,000,000
.	.	.	.

Total paid (Gross)

.

.

£209,250,000

Figures from Wikipedea

Ironically, the player who represents the best value for money is Touré because he was free. The worst value for money (so far) would be Origi who hasn't even kicked a ball for us yet. But beyond that, does this really represent value for money spent? With that much money spent (gross), could we not have bought higher quality players and built a competitive squad? That's more than Chelsea (£211,930,000) in the same period of time and they're currently league leaders and look unstoppable right about now. Even if you convert that to net spending - £123,450,000 - that's an awful lot of money spent with not a lot to show for it. I think on the whole it's safe to say the one area Brendan Rodgers is lacking in is an eye for talent.

Rodgers will get it right , just about the Billion pound mark .

Guess f**king what...

We finished above Chelsea last year.

I think someone called Luis had a big influence last season and Daniel too was just exceptional. Now we have neither.

You don't necessarily need money to build a strong team either.

We are shockingly bad in the RB position. Why didn't we match City and pay for Sagnas wages? If we match his wages and offer him a starting place in our 11, surely that is better than being a reserve to Zabaleta all season. 

Same for Ashley Cole. Hes placed in the top 5 cu*ts of all time but he's a great footballer. Pay him what he wants and bring him here. Ok if he wanted to move to Rome for the lifestyle and experience then that's fair enough, I'm just using his free transfer as an example.

Alex Song anyone? I'd have taken him on loan. How did West Ham beat us to it?

Demba Ba 4.7m.  I'd have snapped him up personally.

Eto?  Free.  Everton can't be paying high wages and he would have joined us over them, so why not go in for him? If anybody has seen him this season they would agree he still has quality. Very intelligent footballer.

Obviously the above are not to everybody's taste but in my opinion Sagna and Cole would walk into our team. Song probably would. Ba and Eto are better options than Borini and Lambert, possibly Balotelli. It goes against FSG's policy but we need quality rather than quantity and you don't always have to spend millions for it either.

I think someone called Luis had a big influence last season and Daniel too was just exceptional. Now we have neither.

And somebody called Kevin Keegan had a big influence on us winning the European Cup in 77 but he still left. Players leave, you move on. You don't F***ing sit there feeling sorry for yourself and pining for the former players to come back every F***ing second of the day.

I like the positions we filled this window, I even like some of the players who haven't performed yet, or have been inconsistent, and I think some still will come good.  We needed to fill out the squad, but this is kind of blindsiding the real issues on the pitch, the lack of communication between our back line that's causing issues, injuries haven't helped, as they haven't in all the outfield positions, but they continue to look like they haven't played together, Gerrard CAN play 3 games a week, the real issue is his performance when he does, which isn't great and he's not the only one.

This is a real test for Rodgers, this is his team now.  Injuries, poor form, poor defending and poor finishing, time to show us your mettle Brendan.

And somebody called Kevin Keegan had a big influence on us winning the European Cup in 77 but he still left. Players leave, you move on. You don't f**king sit there feeling sorry for yourself and pining for the former players to come back every f**king second of the day.

Keegan gave us 12 months to find a replacement and as European Champions our appeal was at its greatest.
We had the best strike force for a generation and now without Daniel being fit we have taken away a huge part of what made us so good last season. Not sure what the feeling sorry bit means because we had money and we had time to do something about Luis but we didn't make the most of the opportunity