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      Difficult decisions - tough times!

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      insideanfield
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      Difficult decisions - tough times!
      Nov 23, 2014 07:24:10 pm
      I think it is has come to the point that Brendan Rodgers needs to make seriously difficult decisions and stamp his authority on the team - before its too late. I think he is a very good manager but if things do not improve then our main January signing may be a new manager.

      So what needs to be done (and of course this will differ between each poster)...

      - Understand that Simon Mignolet needs to be proved upon (although there are more pressing issues)
      - Never play Glen Johnson again (offload him in January if possible)
      - Bite his lip and get Mamadou Sakho straight back into the back four as soon as humanly possible
      - Drop Gerrard! Probably the hardest thing to do but he should be nothing more than an impact sub and played further forward
      - Utilise Lucas Leiva as a shield in front of the defence (perhaps the only defensive midfielder we really have on our books)
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      Reply #1: Nov 23, 2014 07:25:02 pm
      it is already too late mate
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      Reply #2: Nov 23, 2014 07:36:52 pm
      I think it is has come to the point that Brendan Rodgers needs to make seriously difficult decisions and stamp his authority on the team - before its too late. I think he is a very good manager but if things do not improve then our main January signing may be a new manager.

      So what needs to be done (and of course this will differ between each poster)...

      - Understand that Simon Mignolet needs to be proved upon (although there are more pressing issues)
      - Never play Glen Johnson again (offload him in January if possible)
      - Bite his lip and get Mamadou Sakho straight back into the back four as soon as humanly possible
      - Drop Gerrard! Probably the hardest thing to do but he should be nothing more than an impact sub and played further forward
      - Utilise Lucas Leiva as a shield in front of the defence (perhaps the only defensive midfielder we really have on our books)

      Sorry but in what way is he a good manager, its a serious question, because I consider him utterly inept.
      insideanfield
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      Reply #3: Nov 23, 2014 07:39:12 pm
      Sorry but in what way is he a good manager, its a serious question, because I consider him utterly inept.

      I said he is a good manager simply because he lead us to 2nd in the league last season. Everyone can point to the fact that we had Suarez and Sturridge firing on all cylinders and they may have made up for our inept defence but he surely deserves some credit for allowing the team to express themselves like they did last season. Perhaps he has let that success go to his head somewhat but there is no doubt he is a good manager.
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      Reply #4: Nov 23, 2014 07:45:29 pm
      there is no doubt he is a good manager.

      I think some people do have doubts.

      Back to the OP - he's going to have to change some of the names on his automatic teamsheet and he's going to have to switch his formation.  Lallana and Allen were arguably two of our better players today and they both got hauled off so I have very little confidence in his ability to do so.

      I think the farce surrounding the Madrid game, and the subsequent benching of all the players who did okay has muddied the waters for him in the minds of many Liverpool fans who don't have much fondness for being fed bullshit.

      He should spend far more time straightening out the team and less team farting about in the media trying to help Gerrard get a new contract that quite frankly he doesn't deserve on present form.
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      Reply #5: Nov 23, 2014 07:47:50 pm
      He should spend far more time straightening out the team and less team farting about in the media

      This for me.

      Needs to do his talking on the training field to his players not in interviews to the media. It's always irrated me he goes on talksport and the like. What other "top" managers would go down such routes.
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      Reply #6: Nov 23, 2014 07:49:11 pm
      Sorry but in what way is he a good manager, its a serious question, because I consider him utterly inept.

      Known my stance.

      Clutch and straws come to mind.
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      Reply #7: Nov 23, 2014 07:57:40 pm
      I hope he realises tough decisions have to be made and he mans up. He is fighting for his job and he needs to put the club over himself and be humble enough to realise that things are seriously wrong and he can't fix them all on his own. He needs to add to his backroom staff, he needs to drop those who are not performing irrespective of their reputations and costs.
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      Reply #8: Nov 23, 2014 08:09:44 pm
      manger never drop gerrard, he move into his old house with his bit on side, time go brendan and our football is geting worse watch
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      Reply #9: Nov 24, 2014 12:21:16 am
      I think some people do have doubts.

      Back to the OP - he's going to have to change some of the names on his automatic teamsheet and he's going to have to switch his formation.  Lallana and Allen were arguably two of our better players today and they both got hauled off so I have very little confidence in his ability to do so.

      I think the farce surrounding the Madrid game, and the subsequent benching of all the players who did okay has muddied the waters for him in the minds of many Liverpool fans who don't have much fondness for being fed bullshit.

      He should spend far more time straightening out the team and less team farting about in the media trying to help Gerrard get a new contract that quite frankly he doesn't deserve on present form.

      Brendan's obsession with Gerrard could ultimately be his undoing.

      After the latest defeat I think Brendan has been backed into a corner and surely by now he can see his policy of constantly selecting players who don't merit it has to end.



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      Reply #10: Nov 24, 2014 12:24:26 am
      After the latest defeat I think Brendan has been backed into a corner and surely by now he can see his policy of constantly selecting players who don't merit it has to end.

      We can hope mate, but it wont happen.

      Gerrard, Lovren and Johnson will all play. At this point there's conspiracy theories flying around as to why they're getting picked so consistently. Not buying in to them yet but I can't believe Brendan is that stupid that he doesn't see the problem so there's something that connects the two that I don't believe we're aware of right now.
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      Reply #11: Nov 24, 2014 12:27:02 am
      We can hope mate, but it wont happen.

      Gerrard, Lovren and Johnson will all play. At this point there's conspiracy theories flying around as to why they're getting picked so consistently. Not buying in to them yet but I can't believe Brendan is that stupid that he doesn't see the problem so there's something that connects the two that I don't believe we're aware of right now.

      I think the coming weeks will show if Brendan is 'that stupid' or if he realises his job may be on the line and he starts to select his side on merit.

      I'm not holding my breath however and like you I can't see the day when he leaves out the likes of Gerrard and Johnson.
      « Last Edit: Nov 24, 2014 12:39:38 am by srslfc »
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      Reply #12: Nov 24, 2014 12:37:53 am
      We can hope mate, but it wont happen.

      Gerrard, Lovren and Johnson will all play. At this point there's conspiracy theories flying around as to why they're getting picked so consistently. Not buying in to them yet but I can't believe Brendan is that stupid that he doesn't see the problem so there's something that connects the two that I don't believe we're aware of right now.

      What's the conspiracy theories?
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      Reply #13: Nov 24, 2014 12:38:15 am
      We can hope mate, but it wont happen.

      Gerrard, Lovren and Johnson will all play. At this point there's conspiracy theories flying around as to why they're getting picked so consistently. Not buying in to them yet but I can't believe Brendan is that stupid that he doesn't see the problem so there's something that connects the two that I don't believe we're aware of right now.

      I don't really believe in them to be honest. If he is, then he should clearly speak up as that is no way the club should be managed.

      There was a ruling that Victor Moses had to play a certain number of games which formed part of his loan but I don't think there is anything that says Johnson, Gerrard and Lovren have to play week in-week out.
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      Reply #14: Nov 24, 2014 12:40:36 am
      Start picking players on form and not reputation.
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      Reply #15: Nov 24, 2014 12:42:41 am

      The main one is that Gerrard has more of an influence on Rodgers decisions than is healthy (to put it mildly).

      The 2nd I'm not even going to state as I think it's total bollocks and would rather not give it any extra traction.
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      Reply #16: Nov 24, 2014 12:44:21 am
      I think it is has come to the point that Brendan Rodgers needs to make seriously difficult decisions and stamp his authority on the team - before its too late. I think he is a very good manager but if things do not improve then our main January signing may be a new manager.

      So what needs to be done (and of course this will differ between each poster)...

      - Understand that Simon Mignolet needs to be proved upon (although there are more pressing issues)
      - Never play Glen Johnson again (offload him in January if possible)
      - Bite his lip and get Mamadou Sakho straight back into the back four as soon as humanly possible
      - Drop Gerrard! Probably the hardest thing to do but he should be nothing more than an impact sub and played further forward
      - Utilise Lucas Leiva as a shield in front of the defence (perhaps the only defensive midfielder we really have on our books)

      Thankfully more constructive than your last debacle of a post. I doubt very much they'll get rid of him mid-season and to be honest I doubt very much they will get rid of him at the end of the season, especially after he signed a contract extension last Summer. They will probably accept that players taking time to settle in is part and parcel of their strategy for the club, even if every man and his dog can see that strategy is killing us.

      - We need a better keeper than Mignolet. I was against his signing in the first place, saying he wasn't good enough to be our first choice keeper. He'll do fine as a replacement for Jones though.
      - Johnson gets slaughtered even when he plays reasonably well. He's not the best of fullbacks and does need replacing but he's not half as bad as he's made out to be.
      - Lovren needs to be rested for a while because his head is in pieces. Take him out of the limelight, build up his confidence in training before bringing him back in to the team.
      - I wouldn't drop him but I wouldn't play him at the base of the diamond. Playing him further forward with his range of passing might bring the best out of Balotelli.
      - Without two strikers there's no pressing need to play a diamond formation so we should play with two holding midfielders. Throw Allen or Chan in next to Lucas.

      In January we need to spend a decent amount of money on two highly experienced, established players. One goal keeper to be our first choice, one striker who can operate alongside or instead of Sturridge. In the Summer Lambert and Borini are moved on and Origi arrives. That's our four strikers sorted. Our biggest problem right now is the lack of any movement up front in the absence of a striker who operates like Suarez or Sturridge. Without that movement Gerrard's weaknesses are exposed whilst his talents are unable to be brought to bear. Players like Sterling and Lallana have no spaces to run in to because no one is dragging defenders out of position. Having Gerrard further forward could mean he's able to play these guys in because the balls he's playing are going to be shorter; and if we want to play two strikers play Borini up front with one of the other two. Above all I want to see the Brendan of last season, the one that outwitted opponents on multiple occasions with his tactical changes and adaptation to their tactics, something he's not shown any of this season. Let's get a bit of belief back in this side and we can turn this season around.
      « Last Edit: Nov 24, 2014 01:23:45 am by 5timesacharm »
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      Reply #17: Nov 24, 2014 12:47:02 am
      The main one is that Gerrard has more of an influence on Rodgers decisions than is healthy (to put it mildly).

      I don't think it's difficult to believe this one Luke.

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      Reply #18: Nov 24, 2014 12:49:11 am
      The main one is that Gerrard has more of an influence on Rodgers decisions than is healthy (to put it mildly).

      The 2nd I'm not even going to state as I think it's total bollocks and would rather not give it any extra traction.

      Interesting - is Stevie G picking Glen Johnson and Dejan Lovren every week then?

      I'd love to know the second one.
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      Reply #19: Nov 24, 2014 12:51:52 am

      I'm curious to know as well. ;D

      Spill the beans Luke even if it is bollocks.
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      Reply #20: Nov 24, 2014 12:57:39 am

      Spill the beans Luke even if it is bollocks.

      Fine and I re-iterate I think this is complete bollocks.

      Gerrard allegedly has dirt on Rodgers regarding his break up with his Mrs and this is where the influence / power becomes unhealthy.
      (The lad went as far and said that Gerrard looks after his friends in the team)

      To me there's far too much co-incidence in that coming out after the first and it's just been embellished.
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      Reply #21: Nov 24, 2014 01:01:40 am
      http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-boss-brendan-rodgers-makes-4509504

      Plus Stevie G is Rodgers' landlord.



      And to add more fuel to the fire, Stevie G is also working with Glen Johnson as part of his property management company...

      http://www.johnsonsrealestate.com/
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      Reply #22: Nov 24, 2014 01:01:42 am
      Fine and I re-iterate I think this is complete bollocks.

      Gerrard allegedly has dirt on Rodgers regarding his break up with his Mrs and this is where the influence / power becomes unhealthy.
      (The lad went as far and said that Gerrard looks after his friends in the team)

      To me there's far too much co-incidence in that coming out after the first and it's just been embellished.

      Is this the cocaine rumour mate?

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