2014/15 squad

I don't accept that at all. Azpilicueta was signed in 2012 for the same amount we paid for Enrique who signed for us a year earlier and are you suggesting Enrique is better?

OK you're incapable of reading therefore this discussion or any future one with you is pointless.

However, I'll leave you with a parting gift from the post you've "read", "quoted" and "replied" to.

And I'd rather of had that Azpilicueta than Enrique

There's no stretch at all, bar the GK, we're stronger than all but 4 teams in the league!

Why don't you start reading before give off your drivel. Here you admit that there are 4 better teams than us and I responded to a comment suggesting we're good enough for top 4. So go on and count your fingers again.

OK you're incapable of reading therefore this discussion or any future one with you is pointless.

However, I'll leave you with a parting gift from the post you've "read", "quoted" and "replied" to.

Well aren't you precious? If you're going to act like a prima donna then I don't want to discuss with you either. It's late, I'm tired, people can misread you know?

Why don't you start reading before give off your drivel. Here you admit that there are 4 better teams than us and I responded to a comment suggesting we're good enough for top 4. So go on and count your fingers again.

So you think by no stretch of the imagination do we have a decent starting 11, yet we are Good enough for top 4? yeah that makes sense! 

Cech was also bought some 10 years, or so, before we got Mignolet. Around the similar time of Chelsea getting Cech, we signed a better keeper than him for less money. Ivanovic, again, bought many years before we got Sakho. Whereas around the time they got Ivanovic, we got a better right back called Alvaro Arbeloa, for a lot less. Cahill was signed for 7 million for the same reason Owen was sold by us for 8 million. His contract was up in the not so distant future and the selling club wanted something for him rather than nothing. Remy for Balotelli was a shocking decision. And I'd rather of had that Azpilicueta than Enrique

Yes we've wasted millions but Chelsea's signings, at the time, were expensive. If I remember rightly, Cech was a record signing for a goalkeeper by a British club. So ten years later, yeah it looks like a cheap deal but at the time it wasn't. And the world of football has gone mad in the last five years in terms of transfers.

Alternatively we could say Chelsea forked out 32 million on Willian, we spent 8 on Coutinho. Chelsea forked out 50 million on Torres, we spent less than that on Suarez and Sturridge combined. Chelsea spent 16 million on Mikel, we spent 5 on Lucas.

Every team makes expensive mistakes, every team finds a F***ing gem of a bargain.

Does it really matter? All that matters is trophies won and in the last 5 years Chelsea have won 5 trophies, and we've won 1 trophy. And you'll be the only one to say otherwise, Chelsea look favourites to reclaim the premier league this season too, while we linger in mid table.

So you can compare signings all you want, but you're comparing signings with players who have left our club. Why compare the Suarez signing with the Torres signing, neither player plays for the club that they signed for back then.

Pepe Reina has left, and Chelsea have upgraded their keeper to one of the best in the world. You talk about us signing Arbeloa, who cares? He left a long time ago. We basically gave him away which was criminal.

Chelsea also signed Diego Costa, Cesc Fabregas and Matic (three of the best players in the league) within the last twelve months. Who have we signed? Mario Balotelli, Adam Lallana, Rickie Lambert....

Does it really matter? All that matters is trophies won and in the last 5 years Chelsea have won 5 trophies, and we've won 1 trophy. And you'll be the only one to say otherwise, Chelsea look favourites to reclaim the premier league this season too, while we linger in mid table.

So you can compare signings all you want, but you're comparing signings with players who have left our club. Why compare the Suarez signing with the Torres signing, neither player plays for the club that they signed for back then.

Pepe Reina has left, and Chelsea have upgraded their keeper to one of the best in the world. You talk about us signing Arbeloa, who cares? He left a long time ago. We basically gave him away which was criminal.

Chelsea also signed Diego Costa, Cesc Fabregas and Matic (three of the best players in the league) within the last twelve months. Who have we signed? Mario Balotelli, Adam Lallana, Rickie Lambert....

And you clearly didn't get the point of my post...unsurprisingly from you.

The point was it pointless comparing signings. Hence why I said we could just as easily make arguments we've made better signings than Chelsea. It's F***ing pointless! I T apostrophe S new word F U C K I N G new word P O I N T L E S S. There I've even spelt it out for you.

But you go and rant all you like lad. I'll leave you to it.

And you clearly didn't get the point of my post...unsurprisingly from you.

The point was it pointless comparing signings. Hence why I said we could just as easily make arguments we've made better signings than Chelsea. It's F***ing pointless! I T apostrophe S new word F U C K I N G new word P O I N T L E S S. There I've even spelt it out for you.

But you go and rant all you like lad. I'll leave you to it.

I brought up a key point about how signings could be compared. Signings we made during the summer against the signings Chelsea did during the summer. And yes, you can compare them, hence why I brought it up.

You were banging on about signings made close to a decade ago, which had no relevance whatsoever. You were talking about signings that happened so long ago, they signed, played, and left the club many years ago.

If you call that a rant, you are quite a softy.

And you clearly didn't get the point of my post...unsurprisingly from you.

The point was it pointless comparing signings. Hence why I said we could just as easily make arguments we've made better signings than Chelsea. It's f**king pointless! I T apostrophe S new word F U C K I N G new word P O I N T L E S S. There I've even spelt it out for you.

But you go and rant all you like lad. I'll leave you to it.

It isn't pointless comparing signings because it's the lack of quality in our signings compared to Chelsea (used as an example) that is the difference maker between us. The point I was making was that people constantly say we can't compete against Chelsea but when you look at the cost of their signings and compare them to the cost of signings we're making ourselves, the majority are comparable so we can compete with Chelsea for the most part. Throwing insults around left, right and centre every time someone disagrees with you isn't the way to have a sensible debate so knock it off, please.

I brought up a key point about how signings could be compared. Signings we made during the summer against the signings Chelsea did during the summer. And yes, you can compare them, hence why I brought it up.

You were banging on about signings made close to a decade ago, which had no relevance whatsoever. You were talking about signings that happened so long ago, they signed, played, and left the club many years ago.

If you call that a rant, you are quite a softy.

You cannot compare signings as a stick to beat the owners or managers due to one single point..... players like Costa didnt want to come when we had a chance to sign them.

The point I was making was that people constantly say we can't compete against Chelsea but when you look at the cost of their signings and compare them to the cost of signings we're making ourselves, the majority are comparable so we can compete with Chelsea for the most part.

Couldn't agree more. Especially if you are talking about this summer. Spending 120m compared to their 90m shows we were able to compete with the big clubs.

This summer, with all the big clubs (except for Bayern) spending within the FFP limitations, we had a lot of exceptional players to choose from without having to compete head to head with the likes of City, Real, Chelsea, Barca etc. The opportunity was there to make our starting 11 even stronger than last season, but we failed miserably by overpaying and buying the wrong players.

I brought up a key point about how signings could be compared. Signings we made during the summer against the signings Chelsea did during the summer. And yes, you can compare them, hence why I brought it up.

You were banging on about signings made close to a decade ago, which had no relevance whatsoever. You were talking about signings that happened so long ago, they signed, played, and left the club many years ago.

If you call that a rant, you are quite a softy.

I weren't the one comparing Cech (signed in 04) to Mignolet (signed in 13). Or comparing Ivanovic (signed in 08) to Sakho (signed in 13). When the signings he mentioned that were at the same time (Balotelli to Remy and Enrique to the Spanish full back fella) I said, Chelsea made the better deal. However yhe signings I suggested were all within a reasonable time scale of each other and in each case, we got the better deal. Torres in 2011, Suarez and Sturridge in 2011 and 2013 respectively. Willian in 2013, Coutinho in 2013. Mikel, who signed in 2006, to Lucas, who signed in 2007.

That's why it's pointless because every team will get better deals over any other given side. Every team makes expensive flops, every team gets absolute bargains.

If you're going to do the pointless task of comparing signings, make them at a reasonable time scale. As I stated, Cech was a record for a goalkeeper by a British club, nearly ten years before we bought Mignolet. That shows why it's pointless because of the near decade in between the signings. The amount of time in between makes it a daft comparison because of how much transfers have increased over time.

It's like comparing us signing McMahon in 85 McAteer in 95 to bringing in Sissoko in 05 to bringing in Can in 14. McMahon is head and shoulders the better player but easily cost less because the time of the deal, transfer fees were on a much lower scale therefore actually making the comparison of fee, yet another F***ing pointless exercise.

I weren't the one comparing Cech (signed in 04) to Mignolet (signed in 13). Or comparing Ivanovic (signed in 08) to Sakho (signed in 13). When the signings he mentioned that were at the same time (Balotelli to Remy and Enrique to the Spanish full back fella) I said, Chelsea made the better deal. However yhe signings I suggested were all within a reasonable time scale of each other and in each case, we got the better deal. Torres in 2011, Suarez and Sturridge in 2011 and 2013 respectively. Willian in 2013, Coutinho in 2013. Mikel, who signed in 2006, to Lucas, who signed in 2007.

That's why it's pointless because every team will get better deals over any other given side. Every team makes expensive flops, every team gets absolute bargains.

If you're going to do the pointless task of comparing signings, make them at a reasonable time scale. As I stated, Cech was a record for a goalkeeper by a British club, nearly ten years before we bought Mignolet. That shows why it's pointless because of the near decade in between the signings. The amount of time in between makes it a daft comparison because of how much transfers have increased over time.

It's like comparing us signing McMahon in 85 McAteer in 95 to bringing in Sissoko in 05 to bringing in Can in 14. McMahon is head and shoulders the better player but easily cost less because the time of the deal, transfer fees were on a much lower scale therefore actually making the comparison of fee, yet another F***ing pointless exercise.

Then again, comparing two signings who both signed correspondingly at the same time, is very hard to make into meaningful analysis in today's position.

For example: the time we signed Reina and Chelsea signed Cech.

(1) - Our manager was different (2) We did not have a transfer committee (3) We had completely different owners.

Every about the club was different, from scouts to the manager to the owners, so any signing made back offers very little about how today's stewardship would do it.

Then again, comparing two signings who both signed correspondingly at the same time, is very hard to make into meaningful analysis in today's position.

For example: the time we signed Reina and Chelsea signed Cech.

(1) - Our manager was different (2) We did not have a transfer committee (3) We had completely different owners.

Every about the club was different, from scouts to the manager to the owners, so any signing made back offers very little about how today's stewardship would do it.

So it's pointless!

So you think by no stretch of the imagination do we have a decent starting 11, yet we are Good enough for top 4? yeah that makes sense! 

Are you really that thick? You were the one who suggested we had a starting XI good enough for top 4. And you were the one saying there are 4 teams better than us. But that's probably too much to digest for your tiny brain.

Are you really that thick? You were the one who suggested we had a starting XI good enough for top 4. And you were the one saying there are 4 teams better than us. But that's probably too much to digest for your tiny brain.

How about you go F**k yourself keyboard warrior!
If you can't accept other people's opinions, you shouldn't be on a forum!!!
I do believe there are four teams with better squads than us, but that doesn't mean we can't finish in the top four, it's not impossible.

Oh , and you forgot to insult the manager in that last comment, you're slipping!

And by the way Canuck, you'll do a lot better on this forum if you don't resort to personal insults! It's not necessary.

And by the way Canuck, you'll do a lot better on this forum if you don't resort to personal insults! It's not necessary.

Brilliant stuff there, lad. Going from "F**k yourself, keyboard warrior" to "don't resort to personal insults" is quite the leap. Then again, could be that rodent brain under that army helmet.

Brilliant stuff there, lad. Going from "F**k yourself, keyboard warrior" to "don't resort to personal insults" is quite the leap. Then again, could be that rodent brain under that army helmet.

You're  clearly an idiot, I won't waste anymore time reading you boring nonsense. On to ignore you go!

You know what, I won't put you on ignore you're good for laugh, it'll be fun watching you argue and insult everyone that doesn't agree with you!

You're  clearly an idiot, I won't waste anymore time reading you boring nonsense. On to ignore you go!

You know what, I won't put you on ignore you're good for laugh, it'll be fun watching you argue and insult everyone that doesn't agree with you!

 

I have been dreaming of
Cech
Flanagan Ilori Sakho Moreno
Can
Henderson Coutinho
Sterling
Origi Sturridge

with Mig, Lovren, Manquillo, Gerrard, Lallana, Markovic and Balotelli on the bench.
Maybe next year..

I have been dreaming of
Cech
Flanagan Ilori Sakho Moreno
Can
Henderson Coutinho
Sterling
Origi Sturridge

We look strong down the right flank

A little open down the left

I have been dreaming of
Cech
Flanagan Ilori Sakho Moreno
Can
Henderson Coutinho
Sterling
Origi Sturridge

with Mig, Lovren, Manquillo, Gerrard, Lallana, Markovic and Balotelli on the bench.
Maybe next year..

Suppose its worth a try, we've been trying a lot of other weird stuff lately. 6 down the right might just do the trick but can we trust one of the centre backs to fill in for cech when he can't make it back from the touchline?

I have been dreaming of
Cech
Flanagan Ilori Sakho Moreno
Can
Henderson Coutinho
Sterling
Origi Sturridge

with Mig, Lovren, Manquillo, Gerrard, Lallana, Markovic and Balotelli on the bench.
Maybe next year..

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Flanagan,oh i love that guy,he def. deserves a place in the starting XI.