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      Do We Lack Scouse Mentality?

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      Re: Do We Lack Scouse Mentality?
      Reply #23: Jan 05, 2015 07:15:00 pm
      Perhaps not enough local talent allowed to come through, with too many so called "overseas stars" shipped in to try to bring instant success, which as we all know does not always bring the right results.
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      Reply #24: Jan 05, 2015 08:03:32 pm
      How many 'local' English players played in the 1986 FA Cup Final vs everton?
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      Re: Do We Lack Scouse Mentality?
      Reply #25: Jan 05, 2015 10:58:44 pm
      Great article here on Scouse mentality.
      http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/05/liverpool-fan-rescues-leicester-city-reddit-officeplum
      Love how he went with no cash, as thought could be jacked ;)
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      Reply #26: Jan 06, 2015 05:23:24 pm
      Great article here on Scouse mentality.
      http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/05/liverpool-fan-rescues-leicester-city-reddit-officeplum
      Love how he went with no cash, as thought could be jacked ;)

      What a fab story.....shows the true spirit of us Scousers  :D Proud to be a Scouse xxx
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      Reply #27: Jan 06, 2015 10:07:15 pm
      I've always thought of Scousers as passionate, honest and determined. I can see a little bit of that in the team at the minute, but we need to see a lot more to turn things around.
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      Reply #28: Jan 06, 2015 10:15:14 pm
      For this reason I would have Flanagan playing when fit over other players. Liverpool should be trying to get at least two locals in the team. Lambert was a good initial effort and he may not work out but we should keep trying.
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      Reply #29: Jan 06, 2015 10:16:09 pm
      No, we do not lack a Scouse mentality, what we lack are quality players.

      Unfortunately they can go missing at the same time with the departure of Carragher and Gerrard.
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      Reply #30: Jan 06, 2015 10:56:56 pm
      Yes we do lack scouse leaders, all teams should have to field 4 local lads or something like that, or kids who came through the reserves. Real leaders on the pitch would make a hell of a difference for these young players and not make them bottle it.
      The identity of the club depends on Players from Liverpool being in the starting team.
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      Reply #31: Jan 07, 2015 07:52:37 am
      did i just walk back into the dark ages?
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      Reply #32: Jan 07, 2015 08:43:50 am
      Sorry but there's no way you can tell me someone on £150,000 a week can relate anymore to the Scouse mentality.

      You can claim all you want that so-and-so has a "true Scouse mentality" but money changes everything.  Players like Stevie and Carra have a lot more in common with Suarez and Messi than they do anymore with the man on the street.

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      Reply #33: Jan 07, 2015 09:20:47 am
      Sorry but there's no way you can tell me someone on £150,000 a week can relate anymore to the Scouse mentality.

      You can claim all you want that so-and-so has a "true Scouse mentality" but money changes everything.  Players like Stevie and Carra have a lot more in common with Suarez and Messi than they do anymore with the man on the street.

      Sorry, but you can't tell me the likes of Gerrard and Carra can't relate to Scouse mentality because they earn 150,000 pound a week.
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      Reply #34: Jan 07, 2015 09:44:05 am
      Sorry, but you can't tell me the likes of Gerrard and Carra can't relate to Scouse mentality because they earn 150,000 pound a week.

      They can only relate to it vaguely as something they felt when they were growing up.  It has no relevance in their lives anymore as much as we would like for it to be true. 
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      Reply #35: Jan 07, 2015 09:51:33 am
      There are many posters on here and fans worldwide who support Liverpool with a strong passion and they have no association with Merseyside whatsoever.

      I'm from and live in Liverpool and would love to see a few scousers in the team but if another player comes along who has far more quality but gives an equal amount of effort then I'd pick him every time.

      Our players don't need to be scouse. They just need to understand what it takes to represent Liverpool.

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      Reply #36: Jan 07, 2015 09:59:45 am
      Our players don't need to be scouse. They just need to understand what it takes to represent Liverpool.

      Suarez embodied the Scouse mentality better than anyone while he was here.  He never stopped fighting, never gave up, always gave 100% on the pitch, got stuck in, and was never afraid.  He was as much of a blue-collar footballer on the pitch as one could possibly be. 

      In purely footballing terms Suarez was more Scouse than Stevie.  We all know Stevie often drifts in and out of games, and other times is completely invisible.  Whereas I don't think anyone here could ever think of one single game where Suarez drifted out or was invisible.  He was always at 100%.  He was the embodiment of Scouse mentality and it's a pity he's not around anymore to let that approach rub off on some of our current lot who seem to flip a coin before each game to decide whether or not they'll play with grit and determination.
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      Reply #37: Jan 07, 2015 10:35:33 am
      Suarez embodied the Scouse mentality better than anyone while he was here.  He never stopped fighting, never gave up, always gave 100% on the pitch, got stuck in, and was never afraid.  He was as much of a blue-collar footballer on the pitch as one could possibly be. 

      In purely footballing terms Suarez was more Scouse than Stevie.  We all know Stevie often drifts in and out of games, and other times is completely invisible.  Whereas I don't think anyone here could ever think of one single game where Suarez drifted out or was invisible.  He was always at 100%.  He was the embodiment of Scouse mentality and it's a pity he's not around anymore to let that approach rub off on some of our current lot who seem to flip a coin before each game to decide whether or not they'll play with grit and determination.

      Agree with you about Luis. It's a shame we don't have more, well anybody else in all honesty, who gives the same amount of effort that Luis gave.

      You're being harsh on Stevie though and I don't think you can compare him to Suarez, there is no comparison for me. If Zola rolled a free kick and Jimmy Floyd was lining up one of his absolute rocket shots, who out of Luis and Steven would you trust to close that ball down?

      Luis liked winding up defenders and giving just as much as he got, but if it came down to it then I think just one out the two of them would die for Liverpool FC and I'm pretty certain I know which.
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      Reply #38: Jan 07, 2015 03:29:17 pm
      I've said this before, so apologize for repeating myself, it isn't about Scousers, it's about leaders. Shanks, Bob, Kenny, Jockey, Souness, etc. None of them Scousers. All of them responsible for our greatest era.

      While local flavor would be definitely be nice, I'd really just like us to assemble the best 25-man squad in the world regardless of where they came from.
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      Reply #39: Jan 08, 2015 02:33:58 am
      Don't really get how wanting Liverpool players who are strong mentally in the team where I live equals that supporters or players from other parts aren't fully welcomed. It just should be a prerequisite that a certain percentage of a teams players come from the area.
      It's racist to say you want people from Liverpool playing for Liverpool from grass roots ?
      Get real. Everyone is welcome, I am used to local heroes. After Gerrard leaves we'll only have Flanagan (love the lad n all that)? By we; I mean, the club not Liverpoodlians. Surely some of you from other regions can see why I or others would be going wtf is this sh*t about.
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      Reply #40: Jan 09, 2015 11:07:23 pm
      What is this? International football or something, where everyone must be from (or links to) the one place?

      What we need is silverware. Whether that comes by footballers from Liverpool or countries we've never heard of, it doesn't matter.
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      Re: Do We Lack Scouse Mentality?
      Reply #41: Jan 09, 2015 11:18:58 pm
      I've said this before, so apologize for repeating myself, it isn't about Scousers, it's about leaders. Shanks, Bob, Kenny, Jockey, Souness, etc. None of them Scousers. All of them responsible for our greatest era.

      While local flavor would be definitely be nice, I'd really just like us to assemble the best 25-man squad in the world regardless of where they came from.

      And throw in Lawler, Byrne, Smith, Callaghan, Thompson, Lee, McDermott, Case, Fairclough, Johnson. You've got a fair bit of the Scouse mentality there.

      Not to mention Joe Fagan, Roy Evans and Ronnie Moran on the bench.
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      Reply #42: Jan 10, 2015 05:54:37 am
      We need people from Liverpool in the team that's it, end of, that people from the area can look up to. Any other pc political bullshit is really just over doing it.
      If you don't get that then you don't get life.
      Support your local team (wherever you live) and see it's got no locals in it and go whoa what the hell is going on here?
      We need more scousers.
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      Reply #43: Jan 10, 2015 06:37:12 am
      I'm Scottish and a Liverpool fan, I take absolutely no exception to the idea the club and the playing squad require a Scouse character in order to represent the city today, the past and future.

      For me the ideal Liverpool squad would be made up of the best Scousers in football, the best Brits in football and finally the last few places for the best of the rest of the world in football, the world class.

      I feel the Scouse heart is vital to that and hopefully with hard work and luck the Academy can produce that.
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      Reply #44: Jan 10, 2015 06:38:42 am
      What is this? International football or something, where everyone must be from (or links to) the one place?

      What we need is silverware. Whether that comes by footballers from Liverpool or countries we've never heard of, it doesn't matter.


      Your wrong mate,
      Being local means you know more about the place where you are from, the culture, it's history, it's blood, you know more about it's people and how they live their lives, what is important to them,
      In short , they will have their place in their hearts and will fight harder  & stronger to defend it,
      That's what we will miss without the local influence, that's why the scouse in Liverpool has worked for centuries, because they look after their own,

      That's why I love them , it's why I associate with them, I get where they come from, I get where there at, because where I'm from we are the same,
      And it's a major factor why Liverpool FC are the most successful football club in Britain,

      I'm a 'Weegie' btw, that means I'm from Glasgow, you might have heard of it, it's a small fishing village on the banks of the river Clyde  ;D

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      Re: Do We Lack Scouse Mentality?
      Reply #45: Jan 10, 2015 05:42:10 pm
      plenty local scouse mentality in this team http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_FA_Cup_Final

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