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      GK Coach John Achterberg - Suspect No 1?

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      heimdall
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      Reply #150: Aug 25, 2018 12:04:21 am
      To certain extent yes, but there will be limits as well.

      Oh come on now, both Migs and Karius are professional goalkeepers, any good GK coach should be able to improve them, I cannot see why not.
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      Reply #151: Aug 25, 2018 12:56:01 am
      Surely Klopp would have got rid of this “chancher” after so many years?

      Maybe the tools have been inadequate until the quality of Alisson?
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      Reply #152: Aug 25, 2018 03:20:55 pm
      Oh come on now, both Migs and Karius are professional goalkeepers, any good GK coach should be able to improve them, I cannot see why not.

      I'm a teacher, I can improve a student from getting 50s to maybe 60s or 70s but it would be a miracle to get 90s in 2 years.
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      Reply #153: Aug 25, 2018 08:46:48 pm
      Bet Achterberg has learned a thing or two from Alisson..
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      Reply #154: Aug 25, 2018 10:53:44 pm
      I'm a teacher, I can improve a student from getting 50s to maybe 60s or 70s but it would be a miracle to get 90s in 2 years.

      Fair enough but both Migs and Karius actually got worse under Achterburg.
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      Reply #155: Aug 26, 2018 05:37:28 am
      Fair enough but both Migs and Karius actually got worse under Achterburg.

      You can argue that.
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      Reply #156: Aug 26, 2018 06:24:48 am
      Fair enough but both Migs and Karius actually got worse under Achterburg.

      None of us had ever heard of Karius before he arrived, let alone knew how he was performing then.
      Migs was never anything better than an average keeper anyway.
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      Reply #157: Aug 26, 2018 09:55:17 am
      None of us had ever heard of Karius before he arrived, let alone knew how he was performing then.
      Migs was never anything better than an average keeper anyway.

      Karius was voted 2nd best in the Bundesliga and Mignolet was quite highly rated I seem to remember.
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      Reply #158: Aug 26, 2018 10:21:36 am
      Karius was voted 2nd best in the Bundesliga and Mignolet was quite highly rated I seem to remember.

      In a league where there are few top class keepers other than Neuer at that time.

      Freddy Adu was quite highly rated at one time. Being highly rated means jack if you don’t go on to meet expectations.
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      Reply #159: Aug 26, 2018 01:19:19 pm
      Karius was voted 2nd best in the Bundesliga and Mignolet was quite highly rated I seem to remember.

      Had the highest percentage of saved shots or some crap like that if I remember rightly did Simon.
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      Reply #160: Aug 26, 2018 02:45:38 pm
      Had the highest percentage of saved shots or some crap like that if I remember rightly did Simon.

      Exactly they were both pretty good keepers who got worse under Achterburg.
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      Reply #161: Aug 26, 2018 02:48:44 pm
      Exactly they were both pretty good keepers who got worse under Achterburg.

      Or under pressure of a big club ???
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      Reply #162: Aug 26, 2018 02:51:08 pm
      Does seem a bit over the top this thread at times, wasn't so long ago Michael Edwards was the devil reincarnated, now everyone's trying to kiss his arse, maybe we should calm down with the slagging off of Achterberg?
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      Reply #163: Aug 26, 2018 03:01:43 pm
      Exactly they were both pretty good keepers who got worse under Achterburg.
      They were still very good shot stoppers with us - both had issues under pressure that’s not the fault of a GK coach.
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      Reply #164: Aug 26, 2018 05:37:23 pm
      They were still very good shot stoppers with us - both had issues under pressure that’s not the fault of a GK coach.

      Of course it is, a coach should teach a player to cope with pressure or send them to a sports shrink.
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      Re: GK Coach John Achterberg - Suspect No 1?
      Reply #165: Aug 26, 2018 05:40:57 pm
      Does seem a bit over the top this thread at times, wasn't so long ago Michael Edwards was the devil reincarnated, now everyone's trying to kiss his arse, maybe we should calm down with the slagging off of Achterberg?

      The whole 'praise Edwards' thing is bizarre. He's got lucky in that Klopp is the manager. The whole DOF/Technical director role fails and succeeds on how good the manager is. Same goes for Chief Exec and all that. Just look at that Ed Woodward fella at Man Utd who would have been seen as the dogs balls if Ferguson was still manager or if they had hired Guardiola...when they had the chance to.
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      Re: GK Coach John Achterberg - Suspect No 1?
      Reply #166: Nov 09, 2018 05:02:51 pm
      Hmmm,has he had a day trip to wales recently,i always wondered what goalkeeping coaches did!
      https://www.bbc.com/sport/av/football/46132282
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      Re: GK Coach John Achterberg - Suspect No 1?
      Reply #167: Nov 15, 2018 11:56:23 am
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      Re: GK Coach John Achterberg - Suspect No 1?
      Reply #168: Nov 16, 2018 10:06:54 am

      Allison says :


      “He leaves me very calm and relaxed on a day-to-day basis and we learn from each other’s work.
      I’ve pointed out some areas that contribute to his work and likewise he has helped me with things I can improve in on the pitch.


      Who's zooming who ?
      « Last Edit: Nov 16, 2018 10:11:15 am by MIRO »
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      Re: GK Coach John Achterberg - Suspect No 1?
      Reply #169: Yesterday at 04:24:58 pm
      Is he off the hook now?

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