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      Racism in the Premier League
      Feb 03, 2015 10:55:20 am
      Hi,
      I am an undergraduate student looking into football fans views of racism in football. I am trying to collect data via fan forums and would be very appreciative if you could spare a minute to complete a short anonymous survey.
      Many Thanks,
      http://www.smartsurvey.co.uk/s/143952UQGFL
      LFC for life :)
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #1: Mar 23, 2015 02:00:59 am
      In stoppage time at the end of the first half, around 46:40, Sakho gets the ball and is dallying around with it, not quite sure what to do.  Then you can hear one of our supporters clear as day yell out "pass it, coon!"

      oh but it's only other clubs that have racist supporters, right? 

      This is what I was saying when that Chelsea fans in the tube story happened.  We will never get racism out of football if every club says "oh it's only other clubs that have racist supporters."

      there are racist supporters at every club.  Best way to deal with it is for each club to clean its own house instead of pointing the finger at other clubs.
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #2: Mar 24, 2015 12:39:47 am
      wow.  One of our supporters yells out "pass it, coon!" to Sakho and no one cares.  interesting.
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #3: Mar 24, 2015 03:50:23 am
      wow.  One of our supporters yells out "pass it, coon!" to Sakho and no one cares.  interesting.

      1 - You have posted no evidence, do so and then you may get a reaction as...
      2 - The only source at present is you and you're hardly reliable. 
      « Last Edit: Mar 24, 2015 04:03:20 am by Roddenberry »
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #4: Mar 24, 2015 08:35:17 am

      I'll get a video up it later today.

      Although I just said in my post the exact moment in the match when it happened, it wouldn't exactly be hard to look it up on your own.
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #5: Mar 24, 2015 08:50:42 am
      Shocking if true

      1. That one of our own fans would treat a black player in such a way
      2. No one around the idiot didnt do him

      Because of 2 I find it hard to believe.
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #6: Mar 24, 2015 11:21:32 am
      wow.  One of our supporters yells out "pass it, coon!" to Sakho and no one cares.  interesting.

      As others have said Fed we only have your word for it.

      Having said that I do agree with you that we more than likely have racist supporters. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a little blinkered.
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #7: Mar 24, 2015 11:54:35 am
      1 - You have posted no evidence, do so and then you may get a reaction as...
      2 - The only source at present is you and you're hardly reliable. 

      The assertion without a 100% credible back up is worse than disgraceful.
      If proof of the racist filth is forthcoming the culprit should be identified and banned.
      If none transpires the same should apply to the mischief maker.
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #8: Mar 24, 2015 12:29:45 pm
      As others have said Fed we only have your word for it.

      Having said that I do agree with you that we more than likely have racist supporters. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a little blinkered.

      Truth right there mate.

      The assertion without a 100% credible back up is worse than disgraceful.
      If proof of the racist filth is forthcoming the culprit should be identified and banned.
      If none transpires the same should apply to the mischief maker.

      This forum would be a very dull place if you ever become a Moderator, calling for bans is very undemocratic & infringing on Fed's right to freedom of speech  >:D
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #9: Mar 24, 2015 12:31:31 pm
      While Fed hasn't provided any evidence, so far, does anyone really think that such things would never be shouted out in the crowd at Anfield?
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #10: Mar 24, 2015 12:47:11 pm
      While Fed hasn't provided any evidence, so far, does anyone really think that such things would never be shouted out in the crowd at Anfield?

      Can't remember the game but I'm sure one of our own was making monkey gestures to a Manc player on loan at this particular club we were playing.

      Given an opportunity it would continue, of that I have no doubt.
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #11: Mar 24, 2015 12:52:15 pm
      While Fed hasn't provided any evidence, so far, does anyone really think that such things would never be shouted out in the crowd at Anfield?
      Football is a microcosm of society in general.

      As such; there is every chance that racists exist in our numbers just as there's every chance that we have radicalised Muslims in our number. Why would anyone be surprised if there are?

      I'm still not sure how any of this is either news or being worthy of much discussion. All right thinking people know racism is not tolerable: is there much else to say?
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #12: Mar 24, 2015 12:56:59 pm
      Football is a microcosm of society in general.

      As such; there is every chance that racists exist in our numbers just as there's every chance that we have radicalised Muslims in our number. Why would anyone be surprised if there are?

      I'm still not sure how any of this is either news or being worthy of much discussion. All right thinking people know racism is not tolerable: is there much else to say?


      What a f**king cheap shot with the Muslim reference, you could also add Rapist, murderers, Paedophiles etc etc to our support base.

      I would be embarrassed yer tw*t.
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      Reply #13: Mar 24, 2015 01:06:29 pm
      What a f**king cheap shot with the Muslim reference, you could also add Rapist, murderers, Paedophiles etc etc to our support base.

      I would be embarrassed yer tw*t.
      Like I said;  a "microcosm" of society. Am I wrong?  :confused-smiley-013:

      If it helps your 'pain'... as a microcosm of society - there are also bound to be white Christian paedophiles in our ranks too.

      Why would news that there are racists (black and white) in our ranks come as a surprise?



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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #14: Mar 24, 2015 01:08:13 pm
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      Football is a microcosm of society in general.

      Ain't that the truth.

      When I go down the pub nowadays to socialise and have a chat (as ya do) albeit it not with the professors and doctorates of this world  :D I sit round a table and find most folk with their heads down in their phones all night looking up sh*t on Google or whatever. Not too dissimilar to Anfield by the looks.

      At least us Luddites can hold a conversation, and sing a song or two...
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #15: Mar 24, 2015 05:46:51 pm

      This forum would be a very dull place if you ever become a Moderator, calling for bans is very undemocratic & infringing on Fed's right to freedom of speech  >:D


      If the accuser has no evidence his motives are up for scrutiny.
      If the evidence is produced and the culprit ID'd he would be the subject of disciplinary measures by either the club or the authorities.
       
      Where do you get off with the personal remarks?
      The facts are as they are as explained above; alleged racist language cannot be tolerated much less somebody using the allegation for ulterior motives.
       
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #16: Mar 24, 2015 05:58:36 pm
      If the accuser has no evidence his motives are up for scrutiny.
      If the evidence is produced and the culprit ID'd he would be the subject of disciplinary measures by either the club or the authorities.
       
      Where do you get off with the personal remarks?
      The facts are as they are as explained above; alleged racist language cannot be tolerated much less somebody using the allegation for ulterior motives.
       


      I'm very surprised it hasn't come out on other media sources, considering the hot button subject it has been, of late.
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #17: Mar 24, 2015 06:01:08 pm
      I'm very surprised it hasn't come out on other media sources, considering the hot button subject it has been, of late.

      You'd have thought so mate.  Not seen or heard a mention of it either online or tv, not that that means it didn't happen but I'd find it strange that nobody else seems to have picked up on it.
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      Reply #18: Mar 24, 2015 06:34:21 pm
      You'd have thought so mate.  Not seen or heard a mention of it either online or tv, not that that means it didn't happen but I'd find it strange that nobody else seems to have picked up on it.

      Rest assured mate if there was any meat on the bones of this the shitehawks would be all over it.
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      Reply #19: Mar 24, 2015 06:53:38 pm
      Rest assured mate if there was any meat on the bones of this the shitehawks would be all over it.

      Naturally they would mate and quite rightly so.
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #20: Mar 24, 2015 07:00:39 pm
      If the accuser has no evidence his motives are up for scrutiny.
      If the evidence is produced and the culprit ID'd he would be the subject of disciplinary measures by either the club or the authorities.
       
      Where do you get off with the personal remarks?
      The facts are as they are as explained above; alleged racist language cannot be tolerated much less somebody using the allegation for ulterior motives.

      To be fair federer is a pedantic pain in the arse but he always backs up his views etc so I hope he can post the video.
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #21: Mar 24, 2015 07:18:23 pm
      To be fair federer is a pedantic pain in the arse but he always backs up his views etc so I hope he can post the video.

      Entirely agree, for everyone concerned.
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      Reply #22: Mar 24, 2015 07:35:09 pm
      Not to throw a firecracker into the mix but I was listening to City Talk this morning and Neil Atkinson (The Anfield Wrap) inferred to racism at Anfield and he was talking about the match on Sunday. Obviously he never went into detail but the lad sits on The Kop and said he's disappointed at the inability of some supporters to support the team through thick and thin and some of the vitriol he hears is unacceptable.

      As for none of the rags/sly sports reporting anything, they also didn't report the munters singing 'always the victims' and 'justice for the 39' amongst other sh*te they decided to bile onto the pitch.
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      Reply #23: Mar 24, 2015 08:15:57 pm
      In stoppage time at the end of the first half, around 46:40, Sakho gets the ball and is dallying around with it, not quite sure what to do.  Then you can hear one of our supporters clear as day yell out "pass it, coon!"

      oh but it's only other clubs that have racist supporters, right? 

      This is what I was saying when that Chelsea fans in the tube story happened.  We will never get racism out of football if every club says "oh it's only other clubs that have racist supporters."

      there are racist supporters at every club.  Best way to deal with it is for each club to clean its own house instead of pointing the finger at other clubs.

      You are a Chelsea fan so why do you stalk these pages? You've admitted that the only Liverpool game you've seen is at Stamford Bridge, no doubt because you've got a season ticket there. Quite why no one else has woken up to your Chavved up nature on this forum is beyond me. All the clues have been there.

      You're a terrible terrible troll. You really are. Begone you rent boy supporting, flag waving loon!
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #24: Mar 24, 2015 10:11:33 pm
      Not to throw a firecracker into the mix but I was listening to City Talk this morning and Neil Atkinson (The Anfield Wrap) inferred to racism at Anfield and he was talking about the match on Sunday.

      He and Jay McKenna, I think it was, also skirted around this on one of the latest podcasts after the game as well.
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      Reply #25: Mar 25, 2015 12:56:11 pm
      He and Jay McKenna, I think it was, also skirted around this on one of the latest podcasts after the game as well.


      I don't get why everyone gets so offended when someone parps up with a racist comment. We have a huge society with everyone getting told what to do and say all the f**king time so it's completely natural in a volatile situation for the worst to come out of people and for them to rail against those that say don't.

      Racism, homophobia etc have been around for millennia and everyone clasps their hands to their mouths when someone dares an utterance that doesn't fit into today's societies values.

      Changing attitudes doesn't take weeks it takes generations. I'm doing my bit with my girls and the more that do the faster it'll happen, at least have the patience to let it happen.
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      Reply #26: Mar 25, 2015 01:28:34 pm
      I don't get why everyone gets so offended when someone parps up with a racist comment. We have a huge society with everyone getting told what to do and say all the f**king time so it's completely natural in a volatile situation for the worst to come out of people and for them to rail against those that say don't.

      Racism, homophobia etc have been around for millennia and everyone clasps their hands to their mouths when someone dares an utterance that doesn't fit into today's societies values.

      Changing attitudes doesn't take weeks it takes generations. I'm doing my bit with my girls and the more that do the faster it'll happen, at least have the patience to let it happen.

      Also a huge difference between a heat of the moment racist comment and being racist.  If I called someone a black c**t, I wouldn't be being racist, the insult is the c**t part, much like I called a mate of mine a slaphead c**t the other night, during an argument.  Same goes for big nose, ginger, fat, skinny, big ears etc.  Huge difference between calling some a c**t because he's black or calling someone black a c**t and whilst we continue along the lines of not being able to mention creed and colour, we'll have race issues.  I'm not saying racism is right, it's abhorrent, just that sometimes, a comment deemed as racist, isn't.
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      Reply #27: Mar 25, 2015 01:48:38 pm
      Also a huge difference between a heat of the moment racist comment and being racist.  If I called someone a black c**t, I wouldn't be being racist, the insult is the c**t part, much like I called a mate of mine a slaphead c**t the other night, during an argument.  Same goes for big nose, ginger, fat, skinny, big ears etc.  Huge difference between calling some a c**t because he's black or calling someone black a c**t and whilst we continue along the lines of not being able to mention creed and colour, we'll have race issues.  I'm not saying racism is right, it's abhorrent, just that sometimes, a comment deemed as racist, isn't.

      So, was the bloke behind me in the pub racist when he (repeatedly) called Balotelli a "f**king useless monkey".?
      Because if he wasn't I probably shouldn't have had a pop at him  :laugh:
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #28: Mar 25, 2015 02:42:02 pm
      So, was the bloke behind me in the pub racist when he (repeatedly) called Balotelli a "f**king useless monkey".?
      Because if he wasn't I probably shouldn't have had a pop at him  :laugh:

      Didn't think I'd need to explain this to you, Swab, Monkey is a racist slur, black isn't, apart from chimp & monkey I went to school with, both white, but could have been extras in The Planet Of The Apes without make up.
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      Reply #29: Mar 25, 2015 03:22:33 pm
      Didn't think I'd need to explain this to you, Swab, Monkey is a racist slur, black isn't, apart from chimp & monkey I went to school with, both white, but could have been extras in The Planet Of The Apes without make up.

      I was being facetious mate.
      On a more serious note, the bloke did a runner after someone told him to shut up or get filled in (not me), but I was surprised he thought he could get away with it.

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