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      Racism in the Premier League

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      Shabs
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #75: Dec 10, 2018 07:30:19 pm
      Football has  done more than it’s fair share in tackling racism in the game & stands..from grassroots to professional...

      Society needs looking at itself, It’s obvious events in politics rear their ugly heads in the stands..the media needs looking at itself how it protrays black/ethnic footballers compared to white footballers..

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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #76: Dec 10, 2018 07:51:40 pm
      i understand that, but it's important not to plant subconscious mindsets that point towards differences between humans. I'm probably thinking outside the box, but our subconscious is 95% of brain activity and conscious is a mere representation. There's much bigger problems out there but it seems like mankind is forever trimming branches instead of pulling roots.

      I think we may be heading down that road to an extent due to SJW's. People are being more careful in what they say and how they judge people, with mainstream media taking a more indirect approach imo.

      Whilst I do not agree with the SJW's methods of harrassment/bullying, intimidation and aggressive/violent behaviour, and feel it is wrong, I do also see their filtering out racisim/bigotry/misogyny mindset POV and how they want a better society long term, but we'll only know if they are successful or not in 20-30 years time imo.
      « Last Edit: Dec 10, 2018 07:58:40 pm by PurpleMonkey »
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #77: Dec 10, 2018 08:07:02 pm
      I think we may be heading down that road to an extent due to SJW's. People are being more careful in what they say and how they judge people, with mainstream media taking a more indirect approach imo.

      Whilst I do not agree with the SJW's methods of harrassment/bullying, intimidation and aggressive/violent behaviour, and feel it is wrong, I do also see their filtering out racisim/bigotry/misogyny mindset POV and how they want a better society long term, but we'll only know if they are successful or not in 20-30 years time imo.
      I agree. Something that also gets overlooked is in some foreign cultures racism is allowed, foreigners have to pay extra money for the same items a home national would pay in some circumstances and insults cannot be prosecuted there. We're multicultural so we accept them into our society, they have children here who have their parents ways from a country with no laws against racism... it needs to be a bigger effort than just UK media.
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #78: Dec 10, 2018 08:56:18 pm
      I tried to speak out against racism recently and got a load of flack for it. I've seen Origi compared to Hesky, Gini compared to Veirra, Mbappe compared to Henry, Sterling compared to Pele and Ibe compared with Sterling. If racism was dealt with on a fundamental level it wouldn't grow to what happened at Chelsea v City.
       

      Nope.You saw something that wasn't there and changed the narrative of the thread to be about you,just like you're trying to do with this thread. racist tw*ts in the premier league.
      https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46504433 John Barnes.
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #79: Dec 10, 2018 09:14:36 pm
       

      Nope.You saw something that wasn't there and changed the narrative of the thread to be about you,just like you're trying to do with this thread. racist tw*ts in the premier league.
      https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46504433 John Barnes.
      how could anyone possibly compare Emile and Divok both same height and weight (when Emile played) both centre forwards both not the most prolific of goal scorers . SO do we have to accept we cannot compare footballers if they happen to have the same skin colour.
      Like you said trying to stir is all this poster is good for.
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      Reply #80: Dec 10, 2018 09:39:48 pm
      If more people had the balls to speak out against the English media we could get somewhere. Fair play to Raheem Sterling.

      Great from Neville and Carra on Monday Night Football, tonight:

      https://youtu.be/YF3jTYjXEe8

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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #81: Dec 10, 2018 11:11:49 pm
      how could anyone possibly compare Emile and Divok both same height and weight (when Emile played) both centre forwards both not the most prolific of goal scorers . SO do we have to accept we cannot compare footballers if they happen to have the same skin colour.
      Like you said trying to stir is all this poster is good for.
      Hesky and Origi aren't the same weight or height, now you are making things up.  Why not compare Origi to Milan Baros etc...? Honestly, denying it and sweeping it under the carpet is real sh*ty.  What next? Will people be saying Son Heung-min reminds them off Honda? Get a grip! If an African origin person makes a speech in your work place, will you say they remind you of Martin Luther King? If so, expect P45 the following day. It's the acceptance of this cr*p that allowed papers to get away with it.

      If people keep comparing because of ethnicity this kind of thing happens.

      https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jun/20/lord-sugar-under-fire-over-racist-senegal-world-cup-team-tweet

      Comparing based on race is racist.
      « Last Edit: Dec 10, 2018 11:29:47 pm by Ribapuru »
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #82: Dec 11, 2018 07:00:35 am
      Hesky and Origi aren't the same weight or height, now you are making things up.  Why not compare Origi to Milan Baros etc...? Honestly, denying it and sweeping it under the carpet is real sh*ty.  What next? Will people be saying Son Heung-min reminds them off Honda? Get a grip! If an African origin person makes a speech in your work place, will you say they remind you of Martin Luther King? If so, expect P45 the following day. It's the acceptance of this cr*p that allowed papers to get away with it.

      If people keep comparing because of ethnicity this kind of thing happens.

      https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jun/20/lord-sugar-under-fire-over-racist-senegal-world-cup-team-tweet

      Comparing based on race is racist.

      If you think that tweet and comparing Heskey to Origi is the same thing then you genuinely need help.

      Not to mention the Henry and Mbappe comparisons you also sight as racist, what a speedy French star who likes to drift wide and slot home finishes with a side foot to the corner. Sure Mbappe has more power to his game but it seems a fair comparison.

      You then go on to just fabricate some examples of black players being compared to others that are completely different, in a desperate plea to make your point. Making up comparisons that could be perceived as racist just so you can desperately try to prove a point. You sad little man. I pity you.
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #83: Dec 11, 2018 07:50:05 am
      Hesky and Origi aren't the same weight or height, now you are making things up.  Why not compare Origi to Milan Baros etc...? Honestly, denying it and sweeping it under the carpet is real sh*ty.  What next? Will people be saying Son Heung-min reminds them off Honda? Get a grip! If an African origin person makes a speech in your work place, will you say they remind you of Martin Luther King? If so, expect P45 the following day. It's the acceptance of this cr*p that allowed papers to get away with it.

      If people keep comparing because of ethnicity this kind of thing happens.

      https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jun/20/lord-sugar-under-fire-over-racist-senegal-world-cup-team-tweet

      Comparing based on race is racist.

      Your constant attempts to look for a racist angle within player comparisons is poor - really poor and actually undermines when people try and tackle true racism

      Heskey and Origi were compared due to their style of play on a football pitch and their lack of confidence etc - nothing to do with their skin colour or ethnicity- they were compared as footballers.

      For example I would compare Owen to Defoe , Baros to Cisse , Son to Garcia etc etc

      And none of it will be because the colour of their skin or where they come from

      Your accusations aimed towards forum members of racist undertones is poor and lacking any substance
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #84: Dec 11, 2018 08:35:55 am
      Heskey and Origi were compared due to their style of play on a football pitch and their lack of confidence etc - nothing to do with their skin colour or ethnicity- they were compared as footballers.
      Different style of play, a lot of players lack confidence and Origi isn't one of them. Origi and Hesky are both forwards aland that's all,   as for the rest... One is centre forward now other ended his career a support striker. One has strength other has agility. I'm not getting into this again. They're also not the same height or weight like it's been suggested. It's not a narrative and I know that Tweet in the papers is worse, but it just shows there's a scale and people should be more thoughtful about comparisons. Regardless if you disagree with me, I've raised the issue and people who read this may consider comparisons more carefully in the future.
      « Last Edit: Dec 11, 2018 08:42:20 am by Ribapuru »
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #85: Dec 11, 2018 09:33:44 am
      If you think that tweet and comparing Heskey to Origi is the same thing then you genuinely need help.

      Not to mention the Henry and Mbappe comparisons you also sight as racist, what a speedy French star who likes to drift wide and slot home finishes with a side foot to the corner. Sure Mbappe has more power to his game but it seems a fair comparison.

      You then go on to just fabricate some examples of black players being compared to others that are completely different, in a desperate plea to make your point. Making up comparisons that could be perceived as racist just so you can desperately try to prove a point. You sad little man. I pity you.

      he is right though I think Emile is an inch taller so impossible to compare them both :f_doh:. He is on a constant wind up of forum members and plays the victim to get support from his mates who then say he is being bullied.
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #86: Dec 11, 2018 09:36:23 am
      he is right though I think Emile is an inch taller so impossible to compare them both :f_doh:. He is on a constant wind up of forum members and plays the victim to get support from his mates who then say he is being bullied.
      Walton, I didn't miss it when you said Gini was just like Veirra... I'll dig that out if necessary.
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #87: Dec 11, 2018 09:36:43 am
      Different style of play, a lot of players lack confidence and Origi isn't one of them. Origi and Hesky are both forwards aland that's all,   as for the rest... One is centre forward now other ended his career a support striker. One has strength other has agility. I'm not getting into this again. They're also not the same height or weight like it's been suggested. It's not a narrative and I know that Tweet in the papers is worse, but it just shows there's a scale and people should be more thoughtful about comparisons. Regardless if you disagree with me, I've raised the issue and people who read this may consider comparisons more carefully in the future.

      I’ll say it again as you appear to want to ignore the plain truth

      People compared Origi and Heskey as footballers and not because of the colour of their skin - stop looking for a disgraceful angle to try and wind up forummers.

      Using racism to score points is low
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #88: Dec 11, 2018 09:40:12 am
      I’ll say it again as you appear to want to ignore the plain truth

      People compared Origi and Heskey as footballers and not because of the colour of their skin - stop looking for a disgraceful angle to try and wind up forummers.

      Using racism to score points is low
      we'll have to agree to disagree here.
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #89: Dec 11, 2018 09:53:27 am
      I remember posting a couple or three seasons back something like "Looks like racism is still a live and well in football", and two or three people here took it as I was saying that LFC was a racist club, Of course that was not what I was saying... But it seem that because of Brexit many of the people out there who felt that they had to hide thier attitude toward people of a different skin colour, or race feel that it is now OK to voice that opinion openly now... It has never really gone away, It has only hide itself away, but has always been there...
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #90: Dec 11, 2018 10:16:43 am
      In stoppage time at the end of the first half, around 46:40, Sakho gets the ball and is dallying around with it, not quite sure what to do.  Then you can hear one of our supporters clear as day yell out "pass it, coon!"

      oh but it's only other clubs that have racist supporters, right? 

      This is what I was saying when that Chelsea fans in the tube story happened.  We will never get racism out of football if every club says "oh it's only other clubs that have racist supporters."

      there are racist supporters at every club.  Best way to deal with it is for each club to clean its own house instead of pointing the finger at other clubs.

      Here is the thing Fed' no matter how any Club tries they will never totally get rid of racist Supporters, Those racist supporters will just learn to hide it as they have been going since the "Kick Racism Out" campaign started Look at the way the English supporters behaved in France during the Euros

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO_Un-lKwPM
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #91: Dec 11, 2018 02:26:29 pm
      It's not as bad in the prem, but try going to lower league matches and see the thuggery, hooliganism and racism that takes place away from the camera's.

      Yes, it's a minority, just as hooligans have always been a minority, but it creeps upwards into the prem as it gains traction through people going to lower league matches and premier league matches.
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #92: Dec 11, 2018 03:09:25 pm
      Fair play to Mings for this,https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46520506.Bit of victim blaming by Kitson.But yep it okay gotta keep the callers and advertisers coming in.scum.
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #93: Dec 11, 2018 11:57:10 pm
      Evra .

      Sterling.

      ?

       ;D
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #94: Dec 12, 2018 09:24:26 pm
      I think Evra was the biggest racist ever,he set out to trap Suarez and succeeded.
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      Reply #95: Dec 12, 2018 09:57:41 pm
      I think Evra was the biggest racist ever,he set out to trap Suarez and succeeded.


      With help  from his friends Ferguson and Phelan.
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #96: Jan 31, 2019 12:56:50 am
      Did i hear right ? Did Neil Lennon a ginger Irishman say he was racially abused? Lol now that's funny 🤣😂🤣
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #97: Jan 31, 2019 12:58:55 am
      Wish he'd make his mind up 🤣🤣😂😂
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      Re: Racism in the Premier League
      Reply #98: Jan 31, 2019 01:01:16 am
      Always be a tw*t anyway . Racially abused I can't stop laughing 🤣🤣
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      Reply #99: Jan 31, 2019 01:21:52 am
      I think Evra was the biggest racist ever,he set out to trap Suarez and succeeded.


      It was the worst. So much assumption with hardly anyone actually reading in full, reporting on or talking fairly about the full FA report.

      Massive joke. He's no angel, Luis, but that sh*t was horrendous.

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