Strikers - the full list

ok.

We presently have...

1) Sturridge
2) Sterling (Im counting him as he has played there a lot)
3) Balotelli
4) Lambert
5) Borini
6) Origi (loan,)
7) Aspas (loan)
8 ) Yesil
9) Sinclair (loan)

Thats a lot of strikers and we supposedly don't have any.

I reckon Aspas & Borini are defo gone in summer, possibly Lambert ?

so that's 3 squad strikers to replace, youth guys like Yesil & Sinclair will hopefully step up, Origi will probably take a bit of time to settle.

So looks like we probably need 2 proven quality strikers to replace sterling who sould go back into midfield, and to fill the void left by suarez and the likes of Borini leaving.

So who ??

Flash Gordon.

. wonderful technician

We presently have...

1) Sturridge
2) Sterling (Im counting him as he has played there a lot)
3) Balotelli
4) Lambert
5) Borini
6) Origi (loan,)
7) Aspas (loan)
8 ) Yesil
9) Sinclair (loan)

Bought well over the last three years haven't we.

How many of them would you have taking the deciding penalty in a cup final?

So much Dogshit on that list it makes you want to cry

Bought well over the last three years haven't we.

How many of them would you have taking the deciding penalty in a cup final?

One.

And he won't be here next season and the manager plays through gritted teeth.

One.

And he won't be here next season and the manager plays through gritted teeth.

To be fair, I'd have either Lambert or Balo take pens any day of the week....

To be fair, I'd have either Lambert or Balo take pens any day of the week....

I was talking about Balo mate.

You could add Rickie to that as well though.

Rickie & Mad Wario both very good on penners, Id take balo 1st though.

Balo won't go unless we get a really good offer, he will stay as part of squad. I remember his agent saying he would not sell him again, thsi was his last stop. .

Who can we seriously bring in, talking at least 1 top striker.

We could end up with this.

1) Studger
2) New guy
3) Balo
4) Origi
5) New young guy if Lambo goes
6) Yesil
7) Sinclair (probably loaned out again)

Isn't Aspas averaging a goal every 70 minutes with Seville?

Is he therefore Liverpool's most prolific striker this season?

Who can we seriously bring in, talking at least 1 top striker.

We could end up with this.

1) Studger
2) New guy
3) Balo
4) Origi
5) New young guy if Lambo goes
6) Yesil
7) Sinclair (probably loaned out again)

It'll most likely be Ings as #2 and #5 will be the return of Heskey, or perhaps the Championship Costa, Chris Martin... fml

I am using the OP list.

1) Sturridge Would keep even tough he is injured a lot, is world class when he plays.
2) Sterling Would keep because he is one of our better players
3) Balotelli I would keep because he has the ability to cgange a game
4) LambertWould sell because he isn't going to fit in our rebuilding plans, he doesn't offer anything we don't have
5) Borini Would sell because he constantly fails to get on the scoresheet
6) Origi (loan,)Good to have him and give him a chance here
7) Aspas (loan)Might be handy player for our carling cup games, he bagged a couple of hatricks at Sevilla on loan
8 ) Yesil Looking promising but and should be given a chance this season
9) Sinclair (loan)Don't know much about this player.

The two marked red would be my first choice to make room for 2 new strikers.

Sterling isn't a striker and shouldn't be played as a striker, his finishing is woeful at times.

For some reason I feel like Balo may be back.

Lambert is gone, Borini is gone, I have a feeling Aspas is gone after some of his comments and the fact he never adapted to this league.

Origi won't take that long to settle IMO, Sturridge will be fit by next season as he'll actually get an off-season this year and he should be able to recover.

Sinclair I'm not so sure is ready to make the step up but Yesil is showing some promise.

So to me our strikers for the start of the season will be: Sturridge, Origi, Yesil and Balo.

Would love to add a top striker to that list along with maybe one from the next level down...a good but not great one.

As to who that would be? No freaking clue.

One

I was talking about Balo mate.

No denying the man can take a penalty... Something like 28 scored out of 30 taken?

It's just a pity he couldn't hit a bull's hole with a spade, from open play... Something like 52 goals in 204 senior games?

Maybe we should keep him for our special teams squad - bring him on just for penalties. 

No denying the man can take a penalty... Something like 28 scored out of 30 taken?

It's just a pity he couldn't hit a bull's hole with a spade, from open play... Something like 52 goals in 204 senior games?

Maybe we should keep him for our special teams squad - bring him on just for penalties. 

 

There must be south american striker we can nab who is doing it at international level, someone who works like Fek, runs all day, tackles, shoots, scores.

Oh wait we let him goto Barca. .

ok.

We presently have...

1) Sturridge
2) Sterling (Im counting him as he has played there a lot)
3) Balotelli
4) Lambert
5) Borini
6) Origi (loan,)
7) Aspas (loan)
8 ) Yesil
9) Sinclair (loan)

Thats a lot of strikers and we supposedly don't have any.

Quality First Team.
Sturridge - Crocked.
Sterling


Youth/backup
Origi
Yesil
Sinclair


Sell
Balotelli
Lambert
Borini
Aspas

Plenty of work to do to get a couple of quality strikers in.
The difference between last season and this?
Two strikers that brought 50 goals and 30 assists.
Massive blackhole that was created for this season.

That's a pretty depressing list. Honestly, the only ones I'd keep are Studge and Origi as regulars, and Yesil/Sinclair as future potential. Why we have so many players who would never be up to our standards is beyond me. Get rid of Balo, Lambert, Borini, Aspas and replace them all for one, top, Sanchez level striker.

3) Balotelli I would keep because he has the ability to change a game

 Change a game..??.WTF... in what possible dimension does this ever happen???

 I need a pair of the glasses that make him a player!!! all I'm seeing is a waste of space in a Liverpool shirt!!

F***ing car boot sale that lot.

Keep Sturridge, got Origi, keep Sterling and play him out wide and then bring in two more.

Sell the rest except Sinclair. And this time buy strikers who fit the system.

3) Balotelli I would keep because he has the ability to cgange a game

Oh really??! People talk about his movement 'off the ball' and his contributions to attacking play. In the last 180 odd mins, he did f**k all 'on the ball'. There was a moment last night when Can surged forward and attempted to cross only to find him loitering carelessly outside the box. The only way he knows how to change a game is by getting himself sent off! 

Back to the list, Sterling isn't a striker, PERIOD! His finishing needs large-scale improvement. We'll be selling 4 - Balotelli, Lambert, Aspas, Borini (that's minimum 25mil) If Ings is coming, we need 2 more. Rodgers talks about marquee players, its time to put words in action. Go get Lacazette and Max Meyer. 1 marquee and 1 potential!

I actually think a decent manager (which BR is far from) could get the best out of Balotelli.

Take Giroud for example. He's been a laughing stock the first season he came to the PL, but Wenger found a way how to use him. He thrives being the target man, keeping the ball and flicking it on to his team-mates who are running in behind the defence.

In comparison, we're not doing that. The team gets the ball to the box and starts jerking it around with no penetration whatsoever. I think Balo could be the man to keep the ball and distribute it to the runners in behind (IF ONLY WE HAD SOME).

Balo had plenty chances to burst a gut last night and get a couple of tap ins, to me he reacts to stuff to late, the hull goal perfect example, his fault completly, he was 3 yards behind everybody else in getting out.

Change a game..??.WTF... in what possible dimension does this ever happen???

 I need a pair of the glasses that make him a player!!! all I'm seeing is a waste of space in a Liverpool shirt!!

He changes the game in an amusing way that's for sure.If he comes on something funny will happen so he's right!

Isnt Carroll on loan at West Ham? Bring him back, cant stand Balotelli anymore. We play it long and cross way more these days, big Andy would be useful.

Isnt Carroll on loan at West Ham? Bring him back, cant stand Balotelli anymore. We play it long and cross way more these days, big Andy would be useful.

No we sold him - Well in on your knowledge though

Was tonque in cheek PD, still Id have Andy rather than Mario and Rickie combined.

Slightly off topic (but only slightly) - I was chatting with a fellow Red, about all things Red, in work yesterday... manager; strikers; the lot.

I mentioned that we were being link with Ciro Immobile. The lad very nearly choked getting his angst at the prospect out - long rant short: according to him; Immobile is just that and whilst half decent in the right system/set up, he wouldn't do for us as he's not the right type for how we play.

Fair point, you would think until... you realise that the same lad wants Jürgen Klopp as our manager; the same manager who signed and plays Immobile in his system.

Like I said; slightly off-topic... as you were.

Slightly off topic (but only slightly) - I was chatting with a fellow Red, about all things Red, in work yesterday... manager; strikers; the lot.

I mentioned that we were being link with Ciro Immobile. The lad very nearly choked getting his angst at the prospect out - long rant short: according to him; Immobile is just that and whilst half decent in the right system/set up, he wouldn't do for us as he's not the right type for how we play.

Fair point, you would think until... you realise that the same lad wants Jürgen Klopp as our manager; the same manager who signed and plays Immobile in his system.

Like I said; slightly off-topic... as you were.

Fair point BBB but that lump has still scored more goals this season than all our lumps combined.

Fair point BBB but that lump has still scored more goals this season than all our lumps combined.

Aye mate... but the fact remains - hypocrisy has become rife in the feeding frenzy over Brendan.

You just have to look at how many Reds (on this forum alone) that have become the very thing they despised only a few short weeks ago. The posts are all there, should people need to be reminding.

An introspective look at one's self (when one is in the middle of a mob) wouldn't go amiss in so many instances.

Slightly off topic (but only slightly) - I was chatting with a fellow Red, about all things Red, in work yesterday... manager; strikers; the lot.

I mentioned that we were being link with Ciro Immobile. The lad very nearly choked getting his angst at the prospect out - long rant short: according to him; Immobile is just that and whilst half decent in the right system/set up, he wouldn't do for us as he's not the right type for how we play.

Fair point, you would think until... you realise that the same lad wants Jürgen Klopp as our manager; the same manager who signed and plays Immobile in his system.

Like I said; slightly off-topic... as you were.

So he'd only want Immobile here if Klopp was boss.

So he'd only want Immobile here if Klopp was boss.

Nah... he just didn't realise what he was saying - disjointed thinking at it's best. 

Nah... he just didn't realise what he was saying - disjointed thinking at it's best. 

There is plenty of that around Mouse and maybe you think I'm on that list mate but as I've said any criticism I've levelled at Brendan over the last week or so is taking into account all factors.

Richard Jolly ‏@RichJolly  14 hrs14 hours ago
Everton's back four have scored more PL goals this season (9) than Liverpool's four specialist strikers (8 ).

Nuff Said.

There is plenty of that around Mouse and maybe you think I'm on that list mate but as I've said any criticism I've levelled at Brendan over the last week or so is taking into account all factors.

Each to their own Si - you have your take on things (after much thought and soul-searching, I'd imagine) and I have mine. I've no intentions in falling out with anyone who expresses an opinion because I won't be shy in expressing mine. 

Each to their own Si - you have your take on things (after much thought and soul-searching, I'd imagine) and I have mine. I've no intentions in falling out with anyone who expresses an opinion because I won't be shy in expressing mine. 

Me neither mate.

There is still plenty of bollocks being posted about the manager though I'll give you that.

Nip in and get Javier Hernandez after Real Madrid don't take the option of keeping him, that's one striker who will stick it in the net.

Could have done a lot worse than getting him last summer. Oh wait....we did.

After last night, Mario & Lambo can get tae, both too slow for a top team playing pass & move football.

i would get two one would be danny ings (yes not exciting but has sell on value which seems to be what the owners want)
then i would spend 30-40mil on another striker

I actually think a decent manager (which BR is far from) could get the best out of Balotelli.

Take Giroud for example. He's been a laughing stock the first season he came to the PL, but Wenger found a way how to use him. He thrives being the target man, keeping the ball and flicking it on to his team-mates who are running in behind the defence.

In comparison, we're not doing that. The team gets the ball to the box and starts jerking it around with no penetration whatsoever. I think Balo could be the man to keep the ball and distribute it to the runners in behind (IF ONLY WE HAD SOME).

To be able to do that requires a top coach who has the know how and knows the strength of the players and play to their strength. Sadly, BR is playing it too safe and too one dimensional in his tactics. Balo could give many defenders nightmare inside the box, never mind whether he score goals or not, as long as he keeps defenders busy and opening up the space for others to score that's what he can do for us, sadly our rookie manager couldn't see that potential in him.

Nip in and get Javier Hernandez after Real Madrid don't take the option of keeping him, that's one striker who will stick it in the net.

I hate the Little Pea but the man is finisher, plain and simple.

Many good coaches have failed with mad mario.

Maybe he is destined never to be a top top player.

INGS.

ings best we can get in summer, we better off sack brendan now no way we get top 4 next year with ings or milner

we better off sack brendan now no way we get top 4 next year with ings or milner

Do you think FSG is going to allow the next manager to do better?...doubtful.

ings best we can get in summer, we better off sack brendan now no way we get top 4 next year with ings or milner

Can we have one EFFING thread that doesn't have trolls going on about replacing the manager? 

need a striker thats getting 20 goals next season not another yougster, would be amazing if origi hits the ground running

Richard Jolly ‏@RichJolly  14 hrs14 hours ago
Everton's back four have scored more PL goals this season (9) than Liverpool's four specialist strikers (8 ).

Nuff Said.

And yet we sit fifth, 14 points clear of them in tenth... some achievement considering that ^^^ 'fact'.

If only we had filled the obvious void in attack with proven quality rather than one each of, 'value for money', 'worth a risk at the price' and one for the future'. 

Ah well...

And yet we sit fifth, 14 points clear of them in tenth... some achievement considering that ^^^ 'fact'.

If only we had filled the obvious void in attack with proven quality rather than one each of, 'value for money', 'worth a risk at the price' and one for the future'. 

Ah well...

Not bad for a manager out of his depth, eh?

After the terrible start we had, we did very well getting back up the league and knocking on door of top 4.

It could have been so much better though with more luck on the injury department, and not buying mad mario.

After the terrible start we had, we did very well getting back up the league and knocking on door of top 4.

It could have been so much better though with more luck on the injury department, and not buying playing mad mario.

Corrected for you. Who keeps playing him is my question? Why not bench him?

what did I do ?

what did I do ?

Nothing. just correcting you obvious mistake. 

haha fair enough.

After the terrible start we had, we did very well getting back up the league and knocking on door of top 4.

It could have been so much better though with more luck on the injury department, and not buying mad mario.

But then we end the season how we started it.

We have more worrying signings than just Balotelli IMO.

We have had some fantastic strikers at this club but every now and then we seem to fall into bit of a rut where we have a load of not very good ones being signed, right now we are in that phase. Sturridge is head and shoulders the best but he is always injured!

But then we end the season how we started it.

We have more worrying signings than just Balotelli IMO.

We have had some fantastic strikers at this club but every now and then we seem to fall into bit of a rut where we have a load of not very good ones being signed, right now we are in that phase. Sturridge is head and shoulders the best but he is always injured!

You are correct, the last 7 ganes have been shocking from manager to players.

All started with the Manc game.

I do think we have missed big players thru injury though, or players trying to get fit in big games; Studger, gerrard, lucas, lallana, sakho.

We were actually going along quite nicely with lucas holding, Sakho at the back and sterling up top, then studger got back in looked good in 1 game, we moved sterling wide again, and next few ganes we struggled, gerrard came back in for lucas in semi, not match fit, we lost lallana after the manc game after he had been playing well. Sakho been injured lovren came in and took time to settle doing ok now, and the stupid skrtel suspension never helped.

A lot of things have gone wrong in past 7 games. But it's still not good enough, but Im willing to accept a lot of these things above have really not helped.

ok.

We presently have...

1) Sturridge
2) Sterling (Im counting him as he has played there a lot)
3) Balotelli
4) Lambert
5) Borini
6) Origi (loan,)
7) Aspas (loan)
8 ) Yesil
9) Sinclair (loan)

Thats a lot of strikers and we supposedly don't have any.

I reckon Aspas & Borini are defo gone in summer, possibly Lambert ?

so that's 3 squad strikers to replace, youth guys like Yesil & Sinclair will hopefully step up, Origi will probably take a bit of time to settle.

So looks like we probably need 2 proven quality strikers to replace sterling who sould go back into midfield, and to fill the void left by suarez and the likes of Borini leaving.

So who ??

Thats a depressing list, whats also depressing is that the majority of these strikers have been brought in to improve our striker force and all came with the usual 'there better than what we have got' tag.

im not sure who we go for in the summer,  but it has to be PROVEN top quality and players who have experience of playing at pressure clubs and have actual proven talent rather that potential - such as Canavni, Pedro, etc.

someone who harasses the opposition and can set the tempo the way in which the likes of Suarez and Sanchez do.

Richard Jolly ‏@RichJolly  14 hrs14 hours ago
Everton's back four have scored more PL goals this season (9) than Liverpool's four specialist strikers (8 ).

Nuff Said.

Not really.
Wonder what the minutes played looks like.
Our "Specialist Strikers" hardly played.

The "problem" is not signing the quality needed to replace Suarez and then
putting everything on Sterling.

Bet things look a bit better compared to his stats.

Slightly off topic (but only slightly) - I was chatting with a fellow Red, about all things Red, in work yesterday... manager; strikers; the lot.

I mentioned that we were being link with Ciro Immobile. The lad very nearly choked getting his angst at the prospect out - long rant short: according to him; Immobile is just that and whilst half decent in the right system/set up, he wouldn't do for us as he's not the right type for how we play.

Fair point, you would think until... you realise that the same lad wants Jürgen Klopp as our manager; the same manager who signed and plays Immobile in his system.

Like I said; slightly off-topic... as you were.

To be fair Immobile hasn't played that much this season and hasn't made much impact

don't even know who this immobile is, but with a name like that not interested.

To be fair Immobile hasn't played that much this season and hasn't made much impact

I'm not sure what your point is FATK. Who are 'we' being "fair" to? 

I'm not sure what your point is FATK. Who are 'we' being "fair" to? 

the point is that klopp's judgement was being questioned over signing immobile, with both manager and player being linked with Liverpool. The fact is that he hasn't figured that often especially after the winter break, it wasn't aimed at you really, should have made myself clearer. Anyway don't see either klopp or immobile at anfield anytime soon.

the point is that klopp's judgement was being questioned over signing immobile,

Nah mate... read back - the point was the lad didn't rate Immobile because he wouldn't fit our system (nothing more) but... the same lad wants Brendan sacked and Klopp signed.

By that logic, given Klopp signed Immobile: if he was our new manager, it's reasonable to assume that he doesn't see Immobile as being a bad fit for his system (which, in turn, would be our system).

Unless, of course, Klopp, after signing him didn't rate the lad - It can happen you know. 

Then again: Immobile has played over two dozen games, for Dortmund, this season - 20 in the league alone [scored 3] so who knows...

Personally I don't rate the fella so I wouldn't sign him. 

Nah mate... read back - the point was the lad didn't rate Immobile because he wouldn't fit our system (nothing more) but... the same lad wants Brendan sacked and Klopp signed.

By that logic, given Klopp signed Immobile: if he was our new manager, it's reasonable to assume that he doesn't see Immobile as being a bad fit for his system (which, in turn, would be our system).

Unless, of course, Klopp, after signing him didn't rate the lad - It can happen you know. 

Then again: Immobile has played over two dozen games, for Dortmund, this season - 20 in the league alone [scored 3] so who knows...

Personally I don't rate the fella so I wouldn't sign him. 

fair enough, was surprised when they signed immobile, not sure if it was klopp or zorc but i agree , he works hard but not sure if he's top class despite the goals at torino

Balotelli is just not good enough his mobility is simply not suited to epl

Balotelli is just not good enough his mobility is simply not suited to epl

Lambert is more agile ? Balotelli's mobility gave Aguero the chance to win them the title.

Balotelli's mobility gave Aguero the chance to win them the title ?

I don't think so mate Aguero hasn't exactly struggled since they off loaded Mario has he.

The only thing Aguero needs is fitness he's quality Mario's not.

Aguero get's defenders shitting themselves like Suarez did sadly Mario doesn't.

ok.

We presently have...

1) Sturridge
2) Sterling (Im counting him as he has played there a lot)
6) Origi (loan,)
8 ) Yesil
9) Sinclair (loan)

I'd be happy to leave it at thbis if we signed one top quality striker.

Balotelli's mobility gave Aguero the chance to win them the title ?

Yes, look at Aguero's title-winning goal and tell me what you see.

1) Sturridge
2) Sterling (Im counting him as he has played there a lot)
3) Balotelli
4) Lambert
5) Borini
6) Origi (loan,)
7) Aspas (loan)
8 ) Ings??

Why can't we just use all the money for those players on two quality strikers? Sturridge is quality. But for the fee and wages from Balotelli, Lambert, Borini, Aspas and Ings we could've definitely buy another real quality striker.

1) Sturridge
2) Sterling (Im counting him as he has played there a lot)
3) Balotelli
4) Lambert
5) Borini
6) Origi (loan,)
7) Aspas (loan)
8 ) Ings??

Why can't we just use all the money for those players on two quality strikers? Sturridge is quality. But for the fee and wages from Balotelli, Lambert, Borini, Aspas and Ings we could've definitely buy another real quality striker.

Why have one expensive quality striker when you can have seven cheap average ones to guarantee a Europa league place every season?

That about sums up the owners ambitions.

I'd be happy to leave it at thbis if we signed one top quality striker.

YIP. Has to be top drawer who has good injury record, i.e hardly ever injured.

don't even know who this immobile is, but with a name like that not interested.

Italian Striker, playing for Dortmund, very good player.

it almost seems like Immobile was the best Dortmund could do on their budget to replace Lewandowski - we should be totally sympathetic with them trying to replace a world class striker on a "tight" budget (relative to our competitors, both LFC and Dortmund). neither Rodgers nor Klopp played their "flops" much. none of these players ie. Balotelli, Lambert, Immobile are bad players, they were just bad transfers.

Italian Striker, playing for Dortmund, very good player.

Clearly you haven't watched him play for Dortmund this season.