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      Danny Ings (Liverpool -> Southampton)

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      Re: Danny Ings Player Thread
      Reply #138: Jun 09, 2015 10:49:20 am
      What a poor business by our club, no ambition whatsoever in signing Danny Ings, and we would pay around 10 mil on him also. New Borini.

      Fabian Delph next up.
      Don't think he's first choice George; more first option off the bench. I can see good competition between him and Origi
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      Reply #139: Jun 09, 2015 10:53:55 am
      Don't be such a dope.

      Roger Hunt came from Stockton Heath, even lesser known than Chester, and was signed in 58. Rush signed in 80. 50 years in between? Nah.
      Billy Liddell came from Lochgelly Violet, even lesser known than Chester, and was signed in 38. Rush signed in 80. 50 years in between? Nah.
      Kevin Keegan came from Scunthorpe, probably slightly ahead of Chester now - maybe not back then, and was signed in 71. Rush signed in 80. 50 years in between? Nah.

      Actually, it was common place to find absolute gems from the lower leagues back when football was a sport and not a business. In fact Liverpool's best XI of all time would all come from "mickey mouse" clubs, with the exception of Dalglish - depending on how highly you rate Celtic.

      Nowadays though, we sign somebody from Burnley and he's written off before he's kicked a ball. Ah well, RIP football. It was a great pleasure knowing you as a sport.

      And you know what? The young, football mad kid in me completely agrees with everything you state there. BUT, having seen what football has become over the years, thanks to Sky and the like, some of it good, a lot of it not so good, I have to think that we're not being ambitious enough and I hate myself for saying it.

      Ings has had a very good season for a club expected to get relegated from the top tier of English football, whilst putting in the sort of performances Liverpool supporters have grown to love over the years. Work rate, sweat, quality. I just hope for him and us he really gets the chance and takes it with both feet. What a great story that would make!

      Just imagine if Danny Ings became our next Rushie!? F**k, most of us, including myself would have to eat a large piece of humble pie, but it would be worth it!

      Go on Danny, make us dream...

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      Re: Danny Ings Player Thread
      Reply #140: Jun 09, 2015 11:03:20 am
      I'm backing him because he is a "Liverpool FC striker". I'll be backing him to score whenever he plays. And when he does, I'll be posting "eat your words you Danny Ings slayers".

      Deffo not a lazy Mario from the look of it. At least stay positive till the first five league games.
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      Re: Danny Ings Player Thread
      Reply #141: Jun 09, 2015 11:13:00 am
      I'd say Welcome to the Club, Danny but it's subject to a medical and I can't get the Loic Remy medical out of my head just yet.  :-\
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      Reply #142: Jun 09, 2015 11:14:38 am
      I wonder if this is the sum of our striker business this summer..

      The lad is 22 and had other options, I wouldn't think he comes here with the line of him being 3rd or 4th choice behind another new guy, Sturridge and then in competition with Divock Origi for 3rd and 4th choice

      He had other clubs in for him by all accounts.


      I'd say Welcome to the Club, Danny but it's subject to a medical and I can't get the Loic Remy medical out of my head just yet.  :-\

      So is Milner.. Only because it's not passed the 1st July yet

      The club will have seen his medical records by now.. It's just a case of rubber stamping both on the first of next month
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      Re: Danny Ings Player Thread
      Reply #143: Jun 09, 2015 11:18:12 am
      I wonder if this is the sum of our striker business this summer..

      The lad is 22 and had other options, I wouldn't think he comes here with the line of him being 3rd or 4th choice behind another new guy, Sturridge and then in competition with Divock Origi for 3rd and 4th choice

      He had other clubs in for him by all accounts.


      So is Milner.. Only because it's not passed the 1st July yet

      The club will have seen his medical records by now.. It's just a case of rubber stamping both on the first of next month


      PD, I'll wait mate, you never know, our medical staff could find he has a heart problem.  :P
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      Re: Danny Ings Player Thread
      Reply #145: Jun 09, 2015 01:12:47 pm
      Understand frustrations if he is our only striker we sign but the reaction from people is well over the top with months to go in the transfer window.

      Bit of patience, see what happens and then maybe react.

      I think the reaction is based on previous form in many a transfer window though Crouchy.

      If it was based on nothing I would agree with you but surely you can see there is a pattern over the years?
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      Re: Danny Ings Player Thread
      Reply #146: Jun 09, 2015 01:54:49 pm
      I think the reaction is based on previous form in many a transfer window though Crouchy.

      If it was based on nothing I would agree with you but surely you can see there is a pattern over the years?

      Not saying it cant happen but Ings and Milner on frees is a decent start given the window isnt even open yet.

      Still got time. Lets wait and see who lines up in September.
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      Re: Danny Ings Player Thread
      Reply #147: Jun 09, 2015 02:20:01 pm
      Yeah it was great in the 60's, 70's and 80's unfortunately harking back to some examples more than 30 years ago is hardly relevant in this day and age.

      Any examples from the 21st century? 
      These average punts are what we have specialised in for the last 20 years and they have never worked.

      Let's see, Steve Finnan. Absolute quality on his day from little old Fulham. Quite possibly our best and most reliable right back of the 21st Century. And we've had some tough competition there.

      Failing that, let's try say Peter Crouch. Certainly not on the Ian Rush level but much better than big name foreigners who cost more like Balotelli, Borini, Cisse. He came from a side relegated as well.

      If that's not enough, Jordon Ibe from Wycombe. A young lad from the lower leagues who was probably our second best player in the season just gone, which shows how F***ing sh*t we were considering he weren't here for half of the year. If it weren't him, then it was Sterling - another kid who came from the lower leagues with QPR.

      Our problem hasn't been signing lower league players because we don't do that a great deal anymore. Our problem has been buying overrated, overpriced players who have had a couple of good months for their clubs - both domestically and from abroad. Downing for 20 million, Markovic for 20 million spring to mind.

      And if you actually cared to read the post, the point I was making was that signing a success story like Ian Rush didn't happen once every fifty years like the dope who posted it said. I was proving how we done it on a regular basis. But you missing the point is as common as signing a lower league success in the 70s. Just blame Gerrard for our failing to sign any successes from Yeovil in the last 15 years though.

      And you know what? The young, football mad kid in me completely agrees with everything you state there. BUT, having seen what football has become over the years, thanks to Sky and the like, some of it good, a lot of it not so good, I have to think that we're not being ambitious enough and I hate myself for saying it.

      Ings has had a very good season for a club expected to get relegated from the top tier of English football, whilst putting in the sort of performances Liverpool supporters have grown to love over the years. Work rate, sweat, quality. I just hope for him and us he really gets the chance and takes it with both feet. What a great story that would make!

      Just imagine if Danny Ings became our next Rushie!? F**k, most of us, including myself would have to eat a large piece of humble pie, but it would be worth it!

      Go on Danny, make us dream...

      What is ambition though? Is it the price? Because we forked out a sh*t load on Andy Carroll, then people whinged that we spent too much. Is it the big name player? Because we brought in Fernando Morientes, Robbie Keane and Mario Balotelli all of whom were supposedly proven quality and that would line up as arguably our worst strike force of all time.

      So where have we lacked ambition?
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      Re: Danny Ings Player Thread
      Reply #148: Jun 09, 2015 02:25:19 pm
      Let's see, Steve Finnan. Absolute quality on his day from little old Fulham. Quite possibly our best and most reliable right back of the 21st Century. And we've had some tough competition there.

      Agreed. I still miss Finnan. I think a lot of people overrate Arbeloa while Finnan remains extremely underrated. Loved the guy, a proper defender.
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      Re: Danny Ings Player Thread
      Reply #149: Jun 09, 2015 02:30:09 pm
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      Liverpool face paying more for Danny Ings than expected after Tottenham have £12m bid accepted by Burnley


      Liverpool face the price they pay Burnley for Danny Ings being pushed above £5m because the Championship club have formally accepted a £12m bid from Tottenham Hotspur.

      Brendan Rodgers’ side have been very confident since January that 22-year-old Ings would sign for them but Tottenham’s late bid for the player will be taken into consideration if a tribunal meets to decide the fee. Though Ings has no interest in joining Spurs, Burnley can cite the higher offer, as well as the player’s contribution for them, as relevant factors for consideration if the case comes before a Professional Football Compensation Committee (PFCC).

      Ideally, Burnley want the price to be nearer £7-8m.

      Liverpool remain hopeful they can come to a club-to-club agreement with Burnley, avoiding the need for a tribunal. But the Anfield club’s initial offer for the England under-21 international has been turned down by Turf Moor and the Spurs offer is a bargaining chip for the Lancashire side as negotiations continue.

      Spurs’ position in the background certainly helps Burnley as they seek to maximise their return on their best asset. Spurs have also been trying to negotiate a deal for the 24-year-old Burnley right-back Kieran Trippier and would have liked to pay a combined fee for him and Ings.
      http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/liverpool-face-paying-more-for-danny-ings-than-expected-after-tottenham-have-12m-bid-accepted-by-burnley-10306613.html

      This is a brilliant as well as class less move by Spurs. We are their direct rivals for 5th place, they submitted an over the top bid yet the player has no intention to join them. These things will matter if the fee is decided by the tribunal.
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      Re: Danny Ings Player Thread
      Reply #150: Jun 09, 2015 02:31:32 pm
      Definitely a step up on Lambert  Borini, Balotelli, Aspas . Young English goal scorer . For playing in a team that got relegated last season and his first year playing in the premier league 11 goals is brilliant . I just hope his bottle doesn't go with the size of Liverpool and the expectation on him ( Lambert ) . Good signing for me still have to pay Burnley am sure they will agree a fee .
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      Reply #151: Jun 09, 2015 02:34:12 pm
      Agreed. I still miss Finnan. I think a lot of people overrate Arbeloa while Finnan remains extremely underrated. Loved the guy, a proper defender.

      If we're talking right backs, Rob Jones.
      What a cracking player, and such a shame his career was cut short. He could have been right up there amongst the best.
      Continuing the theme of players from lower league sides, he came from Crewe.
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      Reply #152: Jun 09, 2015 02:41:49 pm
      If we're talking right backs, Rob Jones.
      What a cracking player, and such a shame his career was cut short. He could have been right up there amongst the best.
      Continuing the theme of players from lower league sides, he came from Crewe.

      Rob Jones was before my time. I started following LFC in the early 00's. I only hear great things about him (injuries aside) but didn't have the chance of watching him on a regular basis.
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      Re: Danny Ings Player Thread
      Reply #153: Jun 09, 2015 02:54:26 pm
      Main concern about this deal is whether or not it stops us getting that 20 goal a season striker we're desperate for. We've got Sturridge, Origi, Borini, Balotelli, Lambert and Ings all on the books right now - can't see the owners sanctioning a deal for another striker until we've moved two, maybe even three of the current lot on (and let's face it they won't be easy to move on).

      As for him as a player, he's got a decent all round game but from the few Burnley games I saw last season I didn't think he was quite clinical enough. Hope he proves me wrong and bangs a few in though - we desperately need it.
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      Re: Danny Ings Player Thread
      Reply #154: Jun 09, 2015 03:48:23 pm
      I remember Rob Jones' first game for us, it was against Utd I think, and Souness gave him his debut. Jones' had Giggs on toast all game.

      One of the best right backs we've ever had.
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      Re: Danny Ings Player Thread
      Reply #155: Jun 09, 2015 04:31:12 pm

      These will all be gone !
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      Re: Danny Ings Player Thread
      Reply #156: Jun 09, 2015 04:32:50 pm

      Are we that lucky?
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      Re: Danny Ings Player Thread
      Reply #157: Jun 09, 2015 04:35:16 pm
      I remember Rob Jones' first game for us, it was against Utd I think, and Souness gave him his debut. Jones' had Giggs on toast all game.

      One of the best right backs we've ever had.

      The first and still the best right back I ever saw play for us.
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      Re: Danny Ings Player Thread
      Reply #158: Jun 09, 2015 04:38:55 pm
      Rob Jones was before my time. I started following LFC in the early 00's. I only hear great things about him (injuries aside) but didn't have the chance of watching him on a regular basis.

      A bit like Finnan in that he went about his work with no fuss.
      He was quick, had excellent positioning, could tackle and also get forwards and put in a good cross.

      Back to Ings, and I think he'll be a regular once he settles in.
      By all accounts he has a huge appetite to learn and improve.
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      Re: Danny Ings Player Thread
      Reply #159: Jun 09, 2015 07:09:04 pm
      can we reject the signing now or are we stuck?
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