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      2015 Ashes

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      Re: 2015 Ashes
      Reply #360: Aug 08, 2015 10:34:36 pm
      Congratulations England! A great series win from a team that had found itself in some very dark places the last couple of years.

      Commiserations Australia - it's quite a beating they've taken. Scares me that Clarke has announced his retirement. I remember 10 years ago how he was Australia's future. Good luck to the guy. Great player and a superb captain.

      Great post mate and fair play to you.

      Still can't believe these last 2 tests were over as quickly as they were. Lot of soul searching from the Aussies.

      Wonder if they had a few bevvies with the English lads after the game.
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      Reply #361: Aug 08, 2015 10:37:17 pm
      Don't want to put a downer on England here but none of their batsmen have averaged over 40 in this series so far apart from Root. And let's be honest, when they tour abroad in Dubai later this year then we can really assess them.
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      Reply #362: Aug 09, 2015 01:00:14 am
      When you've spent your entire childhood watching some f**king shocking players represent England and trying to wrestle the Urn away from some of the all-time greats of the game, you enjoy days like today and series like this, even more.

      The sh*t we've gone through since those Aussies tonked us 5-0, to come through the other side smiling with the Ashes in our hands is remarkable. It's been a joy to watch England play some top notch quality cricket. The entire side with maybe one exception has chipped in with big roles at some point during this series. And when that happens, you are more likely to win because your true world class players are then adding runs to an already healthy total or taking wickets from an already depleted side as opposed to scoring just about enough to make your total par or taking three wickets while the score is racing along to 400 odd.

      I f**king love watching us win and watching us win well at that. The Lord's Test asked a lot of questions, they were answered at Headingly and Trent Bridge.

      And it wouldn't be one of my posts without mentioning Joe Root. Everybody knows how much I rate the lad. Up there as one of my all time fave players. Not just his batting but his fielding and his whole personality, even to a fan at home it's infectious. He genuinely looks like he's having the time of his life just to be playing for England. Man of the series for me, though I think Broady might get it this time because his bowling throughout has been immense. And Joe Root is now the number one batsmen in world cricket.

      It doesn't get better than that from a cricket perspective for me.
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      Reply #363: Aug 09, 2015 10:59:47 am
      See a lot of stuff saying the standard of cricket has been poor yes it has been from Australia/ We had a poor second test but we have seen some really good bowling, batting and fielding as well as some good decisions by the Captain. Its probably the best "team" since 2005 .
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      Reply #364: Aug 09, 2015 11:25:17 am
      I begrudgingly agree, Walton. You outplayed us and we buckled. Now I know what you guys felt for years!
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      Reply #365: Aug 09, 2015 11:55:26 am
      See a lot of stuff saying the standard of cricket has been poor yes it has been from Australia/ We had a poor second test but we have seen some really good bowling, batting and fielding as well as some good decisions by the Captain. Its probably the best "team" since 2005 .

      While it's been some good bowling (outstanding at times), the methods of dismissals for both sides has been poor. Unnecessary shot making and conceding their wickets far too easily.

      Fair play England. They bowled brilliantly the past two tests and the better side in 3 of the 4 tests.
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      Reply #366: Aug 09, 2015 12:10:49 pm
      One aspect of cricket that I really like is how no matter what happens on the field they can still get together after each day/match and have a drink together. Congratulations to Michael Clarke on a terrific career too, he comes across as a top fella.

      Who would be people's vote for player of the series?
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      Reply #367: Aug 09, 2015 12:16:14 pm
      Who would be people's vote for player of the series?

      Broad or Starc.
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      Reply #368: Aug 10, 2015 10:13:43 am
      Last time the Aussies won the Ashes in England I was sitting watching it in a student house at Uni. 

      Let me tell you - that seems a hell of a long time ago because it is!
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      Reply #369: Aug 10, 2015 10:41:00 am

      root as he has been the only consistent batsman on either side with the possible exception of Chris Rogers
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      Reply #370: Aug 10, 2015 11:48:46 am

      Really mate?

      I think Starc has only bowled well in the Trent Bridge Test, the rest of the time he's been very disappointing.
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      Reply #371: Aug 10, 2015 12:46:31 pm

      If Root manages to get 120 runs in the last test then he will have the most runs for an Englishman in a 5-test home Ashes series.  Worthy of a player of the series shout in my book.

      Broad has bowled well although the Aussie batting in that first innings was ridiculous.  Not often you see a test match side think they are playing in a 20/20.
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      Reply #372: Aug 10, 2015 09:40:56 pm
      If Root manages to get 120 runs in the last test then he will have the most runs for an Englishman in a 5-test home Ashes series.  Worthy of a player of the series shout in my book.

      Broad has bowled well although the Aussie batting in that first innings was ridiculous.  Not often you see a test match side think they are playing in a 20/20.

      That's the problem right there, I don't think they were thinking at all!

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      Reply #373: Aug 11, 2015 03:51:38 pm
      That's the problem right there, I don't think they were thinking at all!



      Sad state of modern cricket when this statement can be said about an Aussie side playing in the Ashes. Have a lot of love for the one day game, but 20/20 is ruining the game at its highest level. There was no discipline in that side for much of that series, no pride in their wicket - let alone for the baggy green.

      Not to say 20/20 doesn't have a place (though I say that begrudgingly accepting it's gonna be there), but the passion for the test game seems to be eroding as more pressure is put on schedules and dollars in the crash and bash. My worry when 20/20 first started was fully realised in this series.

      Congrats to England for playing the game the way it's meant to be played. I hope our boys learnt some lessons from you lot, and I don't say that lightly!
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      Reply #374: Aug 12, 2015 02:13:12 am
      Sad state of modern cricket when this statement can be said about an Aussie side playing in the Ashes. Have a lot of love for the one day game, but 20/20 is ruining the game at its highest level. There was no discipline in that side for much of that series, no pride in their wicket - let alone for the baggy green.

      Not to say 20/20 doesn't have a place (though I say that begrudgingly accepting it's gonna be there), but the passion for the test game seems to be eroding as more pressure is put on schedules and dollars in the crash and bash. My worry when 20/20 first started was fully realised in this series.

      Congrats to England for playing the game the way it's meant to be played. I hope our boys learnt some lessons from you lot, and I don't say that lightly!

      the art of batting in the longer form seems to have changed, any swing or spin seems to flummox a lot of players, the ability to leave the ball seems to have disappeared. Some of the stuff said against Clarke is the Australian press has been pretty shocking.
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      Reply #375: Aug 12, 2015 07:10:27 am

      Not to say 20/20 doesn't have a place (though I say that begrudgingly accepting it's gonna be there), but the passion for the test game seems to be eroding as more pressure is put on schedules and dollars in the crash and bash. My worry when 20/20 first started was fully realised in this series.

      I have to agree. Firstly congrats to Eng on their Ashes victory. They will be coming to South Africa later this year and i look forward to that series.
      The problem i have is that the standard of test cricket seems to have dropped all over and even in the selection of players where our SA team would look to replace a solid and technically sound player like Kallis with a flair player instead. Each format has its place yet we find people talking bout a more exciting brand of test cricket almost as if the matches needs to be finished within 3 days. In my opinion the current England side as well the SA side doesnt seem the most spectacular especially in batting but their bowling units are very evenly matched and should make for another interesting series.
      I just wish teams could adopt a set team for each format and stick to those disciplines instead of forcing a particular brand of cricket.

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      Reply #376: Aug 14, 2015 06:39:07 am

      Sad state of modern cricket when this statement can be said about an Aussie side playing in the Ashes.

      Hurt me typing it mate. Not been used to this for a long, long time.
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      Reply #377: Aug 15, 2015 11:46:31 am
      At least the Aussie women are winning
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      Reply #378: Aug 20, 2015 10:41:44 am
      Oh well here we go, this ashes series has been like sex, a lot of excitement, build up and anticipation but a couple of quick bangs and its all over. England unchanged, Mitchell marsh and siddle in for Shaun marsh and Hazelwood, England won the toss and will bowl.
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      Reply #379: Aug 20, 2015 03:07:57 pm
      Great respect shown by England to Michael Clarke then as he came on to replace David Warner who got out for 85.
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      Reply #380: Aug 21, 2015 11:41:26 am
      The words of mark butcher of don't win the toss and bowl should be ringing in cook's ears, good job the series is one
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      Reply #381: Aug 21, 2015 04:23:20 pm
      Lyth strikes again with a sh*t innings. It's been the same in every innings throughout the series.
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      Reply #382: Aug 21, 2015 06:39:33 pm
      The series is a sports psychologists wet dream, excited, at times brilliant, at times awful
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      Reply #383: Aug 22, 2015 11:37:02 pm
      Can't say I have paid as much attention to this test with the series being over, and it looks like England haven't either. 

      Australia always had the most to prove from this - you see this all the time in sport.  Like when a team wins the league with a few games left.

      Never thought England were ruthless enough to stick their foots on the Aussies necks although they like to do it to us!
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      Reply #384: Aug 23, 2015 04:55:46 am
      Oh, what could have been.

      Wish we got battered in the last test and not come out and pumped them.
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      Reply #385: Aug 23, 2015 10:03:38 am
      Oh, what could have been.

      Wish we got battered in the last test and not come out and pumped them.

      welcome to our world mate
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      Reply #386: Aug 23, 2015 09:42:59 pm
      Root - deserved man of series.



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      Reply #387: Aug 23, 2015 10:05:48 pm
      Root - deserved man of series.





      couldn't agree more, runs, catches and the odd wicket, i had major doubts but delighted to be proven wrong.
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      Reply #389: Aug 24, 2015 11:44:15 am
      My ashes ratings

      Alistair Cook 7/10 - his captaincy certainly proved me wrong. Still england's rock at the top of the order

      Adam Lyth  3/10  - seems a good sort but struggled badly. Good hundred against NZ seems years away. Will be dropped

      Ian Bell 4/10 - an increasing enigma, the best player to watch but is too loose.

      Joe Root 8/10 - wickets, catches and runs, still more to come as well. Funny lad as well

      Gary Ballance - 3/10 - needs to work on his technique, is a number 5 or 6 all day long.

      Jonny Bairstow - 6/10 - One good innings, better than when he played last time, still not convinced.

      Ben Stokes - 6/10 - needs to add more consistency, great talent but needs to show it more often.

      Jos Buttler - 3/10 - Wicket Keeping is average at best, batting in the longer form of the game needs to improve rapidly

      Moeen Ali - 6/10 - Vital lower order runs and the odd valuable wicket, was never going to be the long term solution to england's spinning options

      Stuart Broad - 8/10 - as usual when he is good is is brilliant, englands best bowler, his batting seems to be showing signs of life

      James Anderson - 5/10 - Not at this best apart from one good innings, needs to be wrapped in cotton wool.

      Mark Wood - 6/10 - Promising start, needs to stay fit, gives england something different

      Steve Finn- 6/10 - Excellent to see him back and in form, would love to see him put on bit extra pace

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