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      Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)

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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1403: Apr 30, 2024 09:41:30 pm
      Yep, hard to disagree. Maybe not as creative going forward, but think we underestimated his contribution while in the first XI.

      Some of us didn't underestimate it. ;)
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1404: Apr 30, 2024 10:50:18 pm
      I didnt. Excellent cover for Robbo. No competition.
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1405: Apr 30, 2024 11:13:49 pm
      He was very good at LB. Not so good at RB but with Bradley on the scene he shouldnt be needed there much hopefully. (And didnt play there much this season.)
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1406: May 05, 2024 04:27:27 pm
      Think Gomez will be happy with a change of manager. Get back to his best position of CB next season.
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      Reply #1407: May 05, 2024 05:01:59 pm
      Think Gomez will be happy with a change of manager. Get back to his best position of CB next season.

      He was crap there last season and has done very well filling in at full back this season with the injuries we've had. Plus I'd say Quansah is ahead of him at centre back now.
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1408: May 05, 2024 06:57:34 pm
      Think Gomez will be happy with a change of manager. Get back to his best position of CB next season.

      Is this a wind up? This has to be a wind up.

      Please tell me this is a wind up ffs.
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1409: May 05, 2024 07:02:05 pm
      Think Gomez will be happy with a change of manager. Get back to his best position of CB next season.

      Who is being dropped for him ?


      VVD or Konate/Quansah
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      Reply #1410: May 05, 2024 08:03:23 pm
      Think Gomez will be happy with a change of manager. Get back to his best position of CB next season.

      Nah his best position now is fullback for me.

      Should never have been dropped so easily.
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      Reply #1411: May 05, 2024 08:26:46 pm
      Nah his best position now is fullback for me.

      Should never have been dropped so easily.

      Mate he was dropped for the best left back we've ever had who was (yet again) outstanding today.

      That's not dropped easily. It's dropped appropriately.

      Joe is great. He's cover for Robbo till we get a natural LB replacement over time. I love Joe but the narrative that he should've held the jersey is nonsensical.
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1412: May 05, 2024 11:19:55 pm
      Horseshit. Nonsensical ? Gomez was doing just fine funny that when he got took out of the team we did not win against Utd(twice) , Everton,Palace and West Ham
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1413: May 05, 2024 11:29:24 pm
      To say we started losing because Robbo came in the team is a bit daft. Joe has had a good year and very much has a place in this team, but he isn't better than Robbo. Andy has been looking like he's found some old form of late. Need guys like Joe though, lad plays all over our back line and does usually does a fine job
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      Reply #1414: May 05, 2024 11:31:13 pm
      He was always going to be dropped once Robbo and Trent were back fully up to speed. If Trent starts at RB then we can't really have Gomez starting at LB as only one can do the inverting and Gomez as a normal LB offers nothing going forward (as we saw in the draw at Luton and the loss at Arsenal).

      Gomez did do fine when he was asked to fill in but that's just his role in the team....to fill in/give others a rest.

      He was poor in the Sheffield Utd game and the goal he was partly at fault for and since then he hasn't started a game in the league. His other start was in that 0-3 home loss to Atalanta.
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1415: May 05, 2024 11:32:09 pm
      To say we started losing because Robbo came in the team is a bit daft. Joe has had a good year and very much has a place in this team, but he isn't better than Robbo. Andy has been looking like he's found some old form of late. Need guys like Joe though, lad plays all over our back line and does usually does a fine job

      Who has said that ?
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1416: May 06, 2024 02:04:59 am
      Maybe I misunderstood your post. You said something about when Joe came out the squad we lost a bunch of games. Tbf, you didn't say anything specifically about Robbo. Again, if I misunderstood then that's on me, my bad. Joe has looked the best on the left this season and Robbo came back around that time, but he also filled in for RB too.

      Either way, awesome squad player and one who if he ever scored I will go mad and lose my sh*t in celebrating 😆
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1417: May 06, 2024 07:04:59 am
      Surprised Robbo went off for him.

      Trent would have been the obvious choice for me only coz Son was down that side.

      Joe came on and was asleep for the first goal.
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      Reply #1418: May 06, 2024 11:43:23 am
      Horseshit. Nonsensical ? Gomez was doing just fine funny that when he got took out of the team we did not win against Utd(twice) , Everton,Palace and West Ham

      That's right - he's was doing fine. Trouble is the other lad is exceptional.

      It is ludicrous to think that we'd be better off with Joe at lb......the bigger issue is the imbalance created by the right back.
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1419: May 06, 2024 02:47:31 pm
      Mate he was dropped for the best left back we've ever had

      Wrong again.

      Alan Kennedy and Alec Lindsay would like a word if you're making that claim. Robbo is good but our best ever left-back, not so sure.
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1420: May 06, 2024 03:26:14 pm
      Surprised Robbo went off for him.

      Trent would have been the obvious choice for me only coz Son was down that side.

      Joe came on and was asleep for the first goal.

      Seem to remember him saving a goal as well with a.perfectly timed clearance off the line
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      Reply #1421: May 06, 2024 03:43:24 pm
      Wrong again.

      Alan Kennedy and Alec Lindsay would like a word if you're making that claim. Robbo is good but our best ever left-back, not so sure.

      Lindsay before my time. Barney was good. A steady eddy. Rock solid. Not sure he could play the game that weve played under klopp. My 8 year old always asks about kennedy because he signed his babygrow 🙂.

      Deffo my kind of full back ... contributes going forward but doesnt forget what hes there to do.

      Robbo just edges it for me.  Hes been pretty solid defensively since he came here. Not much has got passed or round the back of him. He is a quality defender. But the assists and overall quality of his attacking play is superior.  Granted the role of the full back was different to what it is now in barney's era.

      2 great servants to the club.
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1422: May 06, 2024 03:47:35 pm
      Wrong again.

      Alan Kennedy and Alec Lindsay would like a word if you're making that claim. Robbo is good but our best ever left-back, not so sure.
      Wrong again? Whatever, fella. 100% legit claim and I know many reds who hold it.

      Significantly better player than Alan Kennedy - the stats alone tell that. Alec Lindsay before my time but happy to accept your personal preference.

      You don't need to agree with mine....but it's a fair argument that can be had.

      The point is that Robbo is an elite LB at world level. Joe is an elite utility defender and hugely important. But he shouldn't and isn't picked in front of the specialists.
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1423: May 06, 2024 03:52:24 pm
      Wrong again? Whatever, fella. 100% legit claim and I know many reds who hold it.

      Significantly better player than Alan Kennedy - the stats alone tell that. Alec Lindsay before my time but happy to accept your personal preference.

      You don't need to agree with mine....but it's a fair argument that can be had.

      The point is that Robbo is an elite LB at world level. Joe is an elite utility defender and hugely important. But he shouldn't and isn't picked in front of the specialists.

      ‚ÄúSignificantly‚ÄĚ better than Alan Kennedy ?!?


      How the hell is that judged


      Not sure what stats you are using to judge
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1424: May 06, 2024 03:57:41 pm
      Wrong again? Whatever, fella. 100% legit claim and I know many reds who hold it.

      Significantly better player than Alan Kennedy - the stats alone tell that. Alec Lindsay before my time but happy to accept your personal preference.

      You don't need to agree with mine....but it's a fair argument that can be had.

      The point is that Robbo is an elite LB at world level. Joe is an elite utility defender and hugely important. But he shouldn't and isn't picked in front of the specialists.

      Joe is a specialist centre back. Im sure he will be in the ear of the new manager reminding him hes an international centre half. Be good to see that partnership of vvd/gomez back in my opinion.
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1425: May 06, 2024 03:59:13 pm
      ‚ÄúSignificantly‚ÄĚ better than Alan Kennedy ?!?


      How the hell is that judged


      Not sure what stats you are using to judge

      I'd go for the goal contributions and the evidence of my own eyes.

      Barney was a great servant, in a great team. Robbo better attacker and defender and the best LB I've seen in last 50 years for us.

      So mostly subjective with strong stats base.

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