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      Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)

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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1426: May 06, 2024 04:00:55 pm
      Joe is a specialist centre back. Im sure he will be in the ear of the new manager reminding him hes an international centre half. Be good to see that partnership of vvd/gomez back in my opinion.

      Gomez has played half his career at full back


      In what way had Gomez showed he deserves to be ahead of Konate/Quansah


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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1427: May 06, 2024 04:05:37 pm
      I'd go for the goal contributions and the evidence of my own eyes.

      Barney was a great servant, in a great team. Robbo better attacker and defender and the best LB I've seen in last 50 years for us.

      So mostly subjective with strong stats base.

      Barney is the left back that’s scored in a European Cup final , 2 League cup finals

      Scored double the amount of goals as Robbo ,

      Has more assists

      It’s very tough to use stats

      Hence why “significantly” better would appear to be very hard to justify when it’s down to someone eye


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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1428: May 06, 2024 04:53:07 pm
      It's a tricky one for Joe. He's been poor at centre half since that second knee injury but has filled in well at full back when needed. Having a right footer at LB does hurt us though so I really don't think Robertson came back into the team too early.

      Summer opens up opportunity as the new manager might see things differently but it wouldn't surprise me if he looks to move on this summer.
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1429: May 06, 2024 06:07:56 pm
      Barney is the left back that’s scored in a European Cup final , 2 League cup finals

      Scored double the amount of goals as Robbo ,

      Has more assists

      It’s very tough to use stats

      Hence why “significantly” better would appear to be very hard to justify when it’s down to someone eye




      I think he's a much better player and his stats are unprecedented in terms of goal contributions. More than double Barney's in roughly the same length of time.

      I saw em both and I'll die on that hill. One is very good and one is much better.  Defending and attacking.

      For me. The point here is / was that it's nonsense to suggest Robbo is a downgrade on Joey as some have.
      « Last Edit: May 06, 2024 06:43:36 pm by Scotia »
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1430: May 06, 2024 08:26:49 pm
      Wrong again? Whatever, fella. 100% legit claim and I know many reds who hold it.

      Significantly better player than Alan Kennedy - the stats alone tell that. Alec Lindsay before my time but happy to accept your personal preference.

      You don't need to agree with mine....but it's a fair argument that can be had.

      The point is that Robbo is an elite LB at world level. Joe is an elite utility defender and hugely important. But he shouldn't and isn't picked in front of the specialists.

      Alan Kennedy would have finished the chance Robbo had in the derby!!
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1431: May 06, 2024 09:40:10 pm
      Alan Kennedy would have finished the chance Robbo had in the derby!!

      You know I think he might've.

      He was a great servant and part of the first reds era - 77 to 86 - that I fell in love with.

      Even if he'd  scored that one he' still be thick end of 40 goals / assists behind Robbo whilst playing in the dominant team in Europe.

      I'm not dissing either Barney or Joey.

      I just get bored people sleeping on the fact the guy we have now is truly special.....because he could score a few more.

      Anyway. Joe's thread so I'll butt out and leave  those who know better to it.
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      Reply #1432: May 07, 2024 10:46:50 am
      You know I think he might've.

      He was a great servant and part of the first reds era - 77 to 86 - that I fell in love with.

      Even if he'd  scored that one he' still be thick end of 40 goals / assists behind Robbo whilst playing in the dominant team in Europe.

      I'm not dissing either Barney or Joey.

      I just get bored people sleeping on the fact the guy we have now is truly special.....because he could score a few more.

      Anyway. Joe's thread so I'll butt out and leave  those who know better to it.

      Put Barney in the current team and his output would be the same as Robbo , and vice versa.  They are two of the best left backs seen and it’s near impossible to seperate the two
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1433: May 07, 2024 11:05:46 am
      It's a tricky one for Joe. He's been poor at centre half since that second knee injury but has filled in well at full back when needed. Having a right footer at LB does hurt us though so I really don't think Robertson came back into the team too early.

      Summer opens up opportunity as the new manager might see things differently but it wouldn't surprise me if he looks to move on this summer.

      Can't see Joe leaving this summer.

      Possibly in a year if new guy doesn't rate him.
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1434: May 07, 2024 04:31:11 pm

      I dont agree mate - completely different players and athletes - but no truck with your opinion.....
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      Reply #1435: May 07, 2024 07:11:10 pm
      You know I think he might've.

      He was a great servant and part of the first reds era - 77 to 86 - that I fell in love with.

      Even if he'd  scored that one he' still be thick end of 40 goals / assists behind Robbo whilst playing in the dominant team in Europe.

      I'm not dissing either Barney or Joey.

      I just get bored people sleeping on the fact the guy we have now is truly special.....because he could score a few more.

      Anyway. Joe's thread so I'll butt out and leave  those who know better to it.

      Of all our core players throughout the last 7 years, Robbo along with Ali has been the most consistent. I think his temperament and attitude has always been spot on making him the ideal captain. Virg has the stature but Robbo I think has the temperament as a great leader. Happy to dig out the opponent and the ref if he feels one of his team mates has been hard done by, very rarely harrumphing and castigating his fellow redmen if a mistake is made.
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      Reply #1436: May 08, 2024 12:44:15 am
      Seem to remember him saving a goal as well with a.perfectly timed clearance off the line

      Yeah that was just after he woke up!  :-\


      Great save.
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1437: May 14, 2024 04:14:32 pm
      The question on everyone's minds......

      If we get a pen against Wolves........

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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1438: May 14, 2024 08:14:21 pm
      The question on everyone's minds......

      If we get a pen against Wolves........



      Hahaha as if he's getting the ball off Salah
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1439: May 14, 2024 08:24:12 pm
      Feel sorry for Gomez he is never great but never bad, he gets the Shity end of what position he plays, but always gives us his all
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      Reply #1440: May 14, 2024 10:11:48 pm
      Joe Gomez has had a really good season, he deserves so much credit, you never hear him moaning, just gets on with wherever he's asked to play and always does a job for us, every team needs a player like Gomez. well done Joe.
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1441: May 15, 2024 03:48:23 am
      Joe Gomez has had a really good season, he deserves so much credit, you never hear him moaning, just gets on with wherever he's asked to play and always does a job for us, every team needs a player like Gomez. well done Joe.
      Absolutely. Well said
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1442: May 15, 2024 07:16:16 am
      Joe Gomez has had a really good season, he deserves so much credit, you never hear him moaning, just gets on with wherever he's asked to play and always does a job for us, every team needs a player like Gomez. well done Joe.

      Indeed he has.

      The two teams at the top of the division have started putting the bigger boys in at full back. City have Walker and Gvardiol. Arsenal now play Tomiyasu and White.

      The last 10 years have been about flying full backs being second wingers but there could be a trend starting now where solidity in there is more desired.
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1443: May 15, 2024 07:33:21 am
      Indeed he has.

      The two teams at the top of the division have started putting the bigger boys in at full back. City have Walker and Gvardiol. Arsenal now play Tomiyasu and White.

      The last 10 years have been about flying full backs being second wingers but there could be a trend starting now where solidity in there is more desired.

      Saw someone say that we had two people whose natural instinct is to defend Endo and Gomez. Now while I don't necessarily agree with that as we have two CBs they are both different to other CBs such as Vidic,Tarkowski etc how they play that role . I am not saying better than VVD but you cannot argue different types of CB
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1444: May 15, 2024 02:50:55 pm
      I wonder if now he’s had a bit of luck injury wise and got a good run of form going, he’s thinking what if in regards to maybe joining another team and becoming a starter? He’s obviously good enough and at that age now you’d be expecting someone to be starting every game… or will he be happy to continue here filling in where he is needed in the back four?
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      Reply #1445: May 15, 2024 03:29:11 pm
      I wonder if now he’s had a bit of luck injury wise and got a good run of form going, he’s thinking what if in regards to maybe joining another team and becoming a starter? He’s obviously good enough and at that age now you’d be expecting someone to be starting every game… or will he be happy to continue here filling in where he is needed in the back four?
      He's getting plenty of games here and I'm sure Slot will have liked what he's seen of him so far (in the brief look he may have had)....
      Joe just needs goals to add to his repertoire...  :f_whistle:
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1446: May 15, 2024 04:05:41 pm

      Joe just needs goals to add to his repertoire...  :f_whistle:

      Always looks like he’s going to score.  :f_tongueincheek:
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1447: May 15, 2024 07:59:16 pm
      Always looks like he’s going to score.  :f_tongueincheek:
      There's more chance of that anorak lfc across the water scoring, Keith me auld pal...
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1448: May 15, 2024 08:14:05 pm
      Done great job filling in several positions this season
      Joe is just joe we know what we get 100% effort
      Hope he stays

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