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      Joe Gomez Player Thread

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      higgy_sham
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread
      Reply #675: Feb 04, 2019 10:00:48 am
      F**k sake.

      Gomez to undergo surgery.
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      Reply #676: Feb 04, 2019 10:01:26 am
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      Reply #677: Feb 04, 2019 10:04:46 am

      Ach f**k off.

      Might as well just dedicate the next 2 pages to Clyne revisionism.......
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      Reply #678: Feb 04, 2019 10:13:41 am
      It’s official for Me now, hope Burnley gets relegated, that was a dirty, unnecessary foul on Joe that broke his ankle that game.

      Nah good tackle. All part of the game.

      And yes the loaning out of Clyne has proven to be nonsense. Hopefully Trent can get back, get up to speed and play every game for the next few months.
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      Reply #679: Feb 04, 2019 10:17:29 am
      REMEMBER WHEN THEY SAID IT WAS A GOOD TACKLE.   grrrrrrr
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      Reply #680: Feb 04, 2019 10:38:57 am
      REMEMBER WHEN THEY SAID IT WAS A GOOD TACKLE.   grrrrrrr

      Good tackles can result in injury. Injuries can happen in football but you'll see worse tackles than that in that Burnley game. This one happened to take all the ball and just bad luck it's injured Joe.
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      Reply #681: Feb 04, 2019 11:00:33 am
      Oh well season over for young Joe, come back stronger next season.
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread
      Reply #682: Feb 04, 2019 11:31:25 am
      I find it a bit odd its taken this long to realise Joe's break needed more attention than it has had so far . You expect the very best care for these players anyone know why this has come up now?.
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      Reply #683: Feb 04, 2019 11:47:56 am
      Massive loss.
      Defense is different gravy with Gomez alongside Big Virgil.
      Guess everything is on Virgil staying fit now.
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      Reply #684: Feb 04, 2019 11:53:13 am
      Oh well season over for young Joe, come back stronger next season.

      Not season over. Expected to play again before season is over.

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      Reply #685: Feb 04, 2019 11:54:59 am
      Two seasons in a row this happened. We need to sign another CB, if Gomez does this next season I'm not sure I'd keep him here. Good player and person, but this is two seasons in a row now that he's ended very early.
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      Reply #686: Feb 04, 2019 11:57:50 am
      Not season over. Expected to play again before season is over.



      I wouldn’t bet on it in fact I would ignore the clubs announcements. According to them he should have been back a couple of weeks ago.
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      Reply #687: Feb 04, 2019 11:59:33 am
      So..... If he had the surgery at the time... he’d be back by now....? 😩😩😩

      Just the sort of thing I feared would f**k us up. Massive blow.
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      Reply #688: Feb 04, 2019 12:30:35 pm
      So..... If he had the surgery at the time... he’d be back by now....? 😩😩😩

      Just the sort of thing I feared would f**k us up. Massive blow.

      Know what you're saying but owing to a lack of like for like replacement the risk had to be taken, as you point out the implication could potentially be serious.
      Why the f**k Clyne is loaned out beats me, short term economies perhaps?
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      Reply #689: Feb 04, 2019 12:32:37 pm
      Guys its a blow that Joe is out but we do have Matip, Lovren and at a push Fabinho, we'll be ok. The bigger issue for me is how exposed we are at RB and LB, just have to hope that Robbo and Trent can make it to the end of the season but I'll say it one final time, loaning out Clyne was a stupid mistake by Klopp, I bet he must regret it himself now but who could ever expect all these injuries at once.
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      Reply #690: Feb 04, 2019 12:42:05 pm
      Good tackles can result in injury. Injuries can happen in football but you'll see worse tackles than that in that Burnley game. This one happened to take all the ball and just bad luck it's injured Joe.

      this is true.

      With that tackle, the problem was there was no need for such an aggressive sliding tackle in the corner. IMO, and I think that was klopps point of view at the time too.
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      Reply #691: Feb 04, 2019 01:04:44 pm
      Guys its a blow that Joe is out but we do have Matip, Lovren and at a push Fabinho, we'll be ok. The bigger issue for me is how exposed we are at RB and LB, just have to hope that Robbo and Trent can make it to the end of the season but I'll say it one final time, loaning out Clyne was a stupid mistake by Klopp, I bet he must regret it himself now but who could ever expect all these injuries at once.

      Several games this season Gomez was better than Van Dijk... when they played together we looked close to unstoppable. He’s in another league to Lovren/Matip....
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      Reply #692: Feb 04, 2019 01:54:52 pm
      Several games this season Gomez was better than Van Dijk... when they played together we looked close to unstoppable. He’s in another league to Lovren/Matip....

      Exactly right . If it was other clubs like Man Utd it wouldn't matter as they are all on the same level like for like . Gomez is I'm afraid so much better than the other two and sadly VVD had built up such a good understanding with him which sadly does not look the same
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread
      Reply #693: Feb 04, 2019 02:04:57 pm
      this is true.

      With that tackle, the problem was there was no need for such an aggressive sliding tackle in the corner. IMO, and I think that was klopps point of view at the time too.

      I don’t think it was an aggressive tackle, I do think it was an unnecessary challenge though.
      Gomez is a big loss but let’s not forget how good Lovren was last season on our CL run. There are worse players to have as back up, but like Matip, you just never know what mindset they will have on the day. If their head isn’t right or if they lose confidence early on then you may as well write them off for the game because they will be more of a hindrance. Consistency and mentality is very much the issue with them two, not necessarily a lack of ability.
      But to be winners you need to have consistency and the right mentality, which is why Gomez and Virgil were forming such a good partnership.
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      Reply #694: Feb 04, 2019 02:13:32 pm
      Big blow for us in my opinion. 

      Got to say I'm a little bit disappointed that he's requiring an operation on a leg fracture the best part of 2 months following the injury.  Makes me question the initial medical assessment of his injury.

      He's either going to play the last few games of the season (in what could be an extremely stressful time to try and return to competitiveness for him) or he's out till the summer.

      Neither Lovren or Matip will go through the rest of the season unscathed without injury.  A strong part of me is suggesting that Fabinho might be the better choice over the rest of the season.
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread
      Reply #695: Feb 04, 2019 02:24:30 pm
      Big blow for us in my opinion. 


      Neither Lovren or Matip will go through the rest of the season unscathed without injury.  A strong part of me is suggesting that Fabinho might be the better choice over the rest of the season.
      The thing is when Fab' is used in the back line it takes away so much from the mid-field
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread
      Reply #696: Feb 04, 2019 03:58:50 pm
      I think that the club knew he wouldn't be back, fans for spun a load of drivel until the window shut.
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      Reply #697: Feb 04, 2019 04:00:38 pm
      Several games this season Gomez was better than Van Dijk... when they played together we looked close to unstoppable. He’s in another league to Lovren/Matip....

      OK but in that case we go to Plan B, score more than the opposition, it worked fine for us second half of last season and we need to get that intensity back.
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      Re: Joe Gomez Player Thread
      Reply #698: Feb 04, 2019 04:01:28 pm
      I think that the club knew he wouldn't be back, fans for spun a load of drivel until the window shut.

      So you think the club decided to risk the title, if so why??
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      Reply #699: Feb 04, 2019 04:09:42 pm
      I think that the club knew he wouldn't be back, fans for spun a load of drivel until the window shut.

      What a load of rubbish

      It was a leg fracture. They will basically mend themselves, the bones recalcifys and knits together.. there's nothing else that can be done

      Sometimes it doesn't knit together again correctly and causes pain.. especially when you put pressure on it.

      I imagine Joe was given the time period, then when that was up he went to put pressure on and it was giving him pain.
      There is no way in the world they knew it wasn't going to be right and then said, f**k you Joe, wait til February and then we will do the surgery

      What are you? 12? Or just stupid?

      The surgery will either be to rebreak the bone (unlikely on a fracture) or shave off some of the residue that's not knitted back together and is causing the discomfort

      No way until after the time frame for recovery would they know it's not sorted itself as they would expect
      You don't have initial surgery on a fracture. It's not like a clean snap

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