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      Roberto Firmino Player Thread

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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2010: Feb 05, 2019 08:22:48 am
      When he's bad, he's absolutely f**king horrendous.

      But he's still more valueable than if Salah goes under the radar. Because Bobby at least provides some tackling and real pressure. If Salah is not up to, he's literally disappearing.
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      Reply #2011: Feb 05, 2019 10:15:42 am
      But he's still more valueable than if Salah goes under the radar. Because Bobby at least provides some tackling and real pressure. If Salah is not up to, he's literally disappearing.

      Wrong.

      Salah has disappeared for large parts of games this season and still popped up to provide a goal or assist.

      When Bobby is off form he is only a hindrance to our attack.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2012: Feb 05, 2019 10:17:52 am
      Wonderful player.

      Piss poor tonight. 

      That’s all.

      He is not wonderful he's just good, a 7 out of 10 player .

      He will never be as good as Salah or Mane.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2013: Feb 05, 2019 10:26:33 am
      One of his worst games for us; lost the ball or gave it away so often it was unreal.  Needs a big jump in performance level if we're to win the title.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2014: Feb 05, 2019 10:28:50 am
      Serious question, is there any possibility of recalling Harry Wilson, we need some more firepower and this lad might just provide it.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2015: Feb 05, 2019 10:34:39 am
      Serious question, is there any possibility of recalling Harry Wilson, we need some more firepower and this lad might just provide it.

      Can only recall players during a transfer window.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2016: Feb 05, 2019 09:32:50 pm
      F**k Bobby that was just sh*t!
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2017: Feb 06, 2019 03:08:22 pm
      Been thinking about Bobby and no doubt he is instrumental in the way we play and perform but he certainly has these dips of form every season which usually last more than a few games each time and even during games his passing for periods will fall off a cliff face.

      Even when he is not playing his pressing from the front is a major plus but this season we are not pressing as much, and seeing as though he is not scoring or assisting then there is a case for him to be dropped, however there is no real replacement and if he were to be dropped we would need to change our system which is unlikely at this stage of the season.

      Could have really done with a proper No10 in the summer window, but Jürgen seemingly only wanted Fekir!

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      Reply #2018: Feb 06, 2019 03:19:29 pm
      Been thinking about Bobby and no doubt he is instrumental in the way we play and perform but he certainly has these dips of form every season which usually last more than a few games each time and even during games his passing for periods will fall off a cliff face.

      Even when he is not playing his pressing from the front is a major plus but this season we are not pressing as much, and seeing as though he is not scoring or assisting then there is a case for him to be dropped, however there is no real replacement and if he were to be dropped we would need to change our system which is unlikely at this stage of the season.

      Could have really done with a proper No10 in the summer window, but Jürgen seemingly only wanted Fekir!

      His poor form this season is a major reason why we are not firing on all cylinders in attack. He is so important to the way we play - defending from the front, obviously, but in attack he is the focal point for us. We don't really have midfielders who are going to play a lot of penetrating passes. We get it in to Bobby's feet and then he uses his touch to play in Mo and Sadio, running beyond him. If his touch or passing are off it is a lot harder for us to create.

      It is a tricky one for Jürgen. Cos Bobby is so important you don't want to drop him (and maybe hit his confidence as well). I think Jürgen should continue to start him, but if he is struggling like the other night get on Origi or Studge ( I'd go Origi just cos he works harder), maybe about the 60 minute mark to give them a chance.
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      Reply #2019: Feb 06, 2019 03:22:01 pm
      Such and important role he has in the middle of the front three, that when his form is in the bin we look soo disjointed up top.
      Just shows how good he is that when he's in form, he makes it look so easy.
      And even when not in top form, still hard to drop him cause of his work-rate.
      As much as anyone Bobby deserves some reward for his work, hope we/he gets something for it this season.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2020: Feb 06, 2019 03:39:24 pm
      His poor form this season is a major reason why we are not firing on all cylinders in attack. He is so important to the way we play - defending from the front, obviously, but in attack he is the focal point for us. We don't really have midfielders who are going to play a lot of penetrating passes. We get it in to Bobby's feet and then he uses his touch to play in Mo and Sadio, running beyond him. If his touch or passing are off it is a lot harder for us to create.

      It is a tricky one for Jürgen. Cos Bobby is so important you don't want to drop him (and maybe hit his confidence as well). I think Jürgen should continue to start him, but if he is struggling like the other night get on Origi or Studge ( I'd go Origi just cos he works harder), maybe about the 60 minute mark to give them a chance.

      Unless Bobby has looked amazing in training these last few days I'd be tempted to start Origi or switch to a 4-2-2-2 formation with Mane and Slaah up front supported by Shaq and Keita and Fabinho/Milner behind them. I'd then consider playing Camacho or young Hoever at RB.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2021: Feb 06, 2019 06:59:25 pm
      Wrong.

      Salah has disappeared for large parts of games this season and still popped up to provide a goal or assist.

      When Bobby is off form he is only a hindrance to our attack.

      They as equally important as one another

      He is not wonderful he's just good, a 7 out of 10 player .

      He will never be as good as Salah or Mane.

      Bobby can pull out those vital flick on's and touches that set up Salah and Mane, and he himself scores some wonderful Goals, Bobby is the glue that binds the front free and if not for Bobby in the team Salah would not score half the goal he does

      Salah is all about finishing and scoring from tight angles That's Salah's game. Yes he has good feet, and can dribble and run at players with pace but he is no more or less important than Firmino

      Mane... Tricky, great feet, can take players on, runs not stop, tracks back, tackles and wins balls scores goal, always hungry for them work tirelessly for the cause, my only problem with mane is that he can be a bit greedy

      Both Firmino and Mane allow Salah to score goals and shine
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2022: Feb 06, 2019 08:15:27 pm
      Bobbys problem is Liverpools. His form is sh*te but because the replacements are Origi and Sturridge he keeps being picked and knows hell be picked
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2023: Feb 09, 2019 05:36:32 pm
      Everything but a goal.

      Outstanding.
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      Reply #2024: Feb 09, 2019 05:48:38 pm
      Can understand people saying Bobby's form has dipped recently, because after that Arsenal game it most definitely has. But that being said he is still an amazing player to have at our disposal.

      Today he showed exactly why, he wasn't playing his best by any means but he wen't on to provide a breathtaking assist for Mo, ask Mo who he would want to be picked along with him in the team week in week out and my bet is his answer will be Bobby.

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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2025: Feb 09, 2019 06:17:40 pm
      Everything but a goal.

      Outstanding.

      Yep.

      I amazes me that anyone could call for him to be dropped.
      He does so much that people don't seem to notice.
      For instance, if Firmino does't drag the defense out of position, Wijnaldum doesn't get in behind for his goal.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2026: Feb 09, 2019 06:29:27 pm
      Better but still not at his best, good signs for the run in with Bobby returning to what we know he can do.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2027: Feb 09, 2019 08:44:02 pm
      Very good today. He plays well, we play well. Keep that up til the end of the season Bobby and we will take a bit of catching.
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      Reply #2028: Feb 09, 2019 08:47:25 pm
      thought he was excellent today he gets involved all over the pitch and is always available. The way he set up Mo is him in a nutshell he is just such an intelligent lad but then again most of them are aren't they
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2029: Feb 09, 2019 08:49:17 pm
      Oi Bobby, behave yourself will you.. you & your sexy smooth back heel..
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2030: Feb 09, 2019 09:16:03 pm
      Yep.

      I amazes me that anyone could call for him to be dropped.
      He does so much that people don't seem to notice.
      For instance, if Firmino does't drag the defense out of position, Wijnaldum doesn't get in behind for his goal.

      It's his work off the ball that is irreplaceable and of big importance to us more than anything. Klopp has frequently talked about or mentioned that aspect of Firmino's game rather than the numbers he is putting up in terms of goals and assists. When we were playing well at the start of the season, he went a number of games without getting on the scoresheet, yet we were still scoring plenty of goals. A lot of that is down to Firmino. Then when he combines his work rate with being good on the ball during games, that's when we look at our absolute best.

      There's not a single player in the world that I'd rather have than Firmino playing that particular role. Sometimes he is infuriating when he looks a bit careless on the ball etc., but I can forgive him that. He's a mad, brilliant player.

      On another note, it doesn't entirely excuse his poor performance against West Ham, but rumors are he had been ill too in the days prior to the West Ham game. It seems that the bug that went around really caught the majority of our players and would explain the big drop off in performances during Leicester and West Ham with a lot of our players, including the likes of Robertson and Van Dijk for example.
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      Reply #2031: Feb 09, 2019 09:53:23 pm
      It's his work off the ball that is irreplaceable and of big importance to us more than anything. Klopp has frequently talked about or mentioned that aspect of Firmino's game rather than the numbers he is putting up in terms of goals and assists. When we were playing well at the start of the season, he went a number of games without getting on the scoresheet, yet we were still scoring plenty of goals. A lot of that is down to Firmino. Then when he combines his work rate with being good on the ball during games, that's when we look at our absolute best.

      There's not a single player in the world that I'd rather have than Firmino playing that particular role. Sometimes he is infuriating when he looks a bit careless on the ball etc., but I can forgive him that. He's a mad, brilliant player.

      On another note, it doesn't entirely excuse his poor performance against West Ham, but rumors are he had been ill too in the days prior to the West Ham game. It seems that the bug that went around really caught the majority of our players and would explain the big drop off in performances during Leicester and West Ham with a lot of our players, including the likes of Robertson and Van Dijk for example.

      100% agree Danz.

      Watching this team without Bobby Firmino is like trying to eat a pizza with no base.

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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2032: Feb 18, 2019 07:36:18 pm
      Apparently no Firmino in training today due to a virus. Unusual amount of illnesses popping up and I’m wondering if the trips to Dubai/Marbella are a factor.
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      Reply #2033: Feb 18, 2019 07:43:28 pm
      Apparently no Firmino in training today due to a virus. Unusual amount of illnesses popping up and I’m wondering if the trips to Dubai/Marbella are a factor.

      does make you think doesn't it.
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      Reply #2034: Feb 18, 2019 08:50:44 pm
      Apparently no Firmino in training today due to a virus. Unusual amount of illnesses popping up and I’m wondering if the trips to Dubai/Marbella are a factor.


      Me and Mrs both ran with common or garden viruses until totally floored.

      Half my work off at the moment and I work in the HQ of a massive company.

      I think the Dubai / Marbella thing is a red herring.

      Plenty about.
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      Reply #2035: Feb 18, 2019 09:52:49 pm
      Me and Mrs both ran with common or garden viruses until totally floored.

      Half my work off at the moment and I work in the HQ of a massive company.

      I think the Dubai / Marbella thing is a red herring.

      Plenty about.
      Wasn't Virgil ill for a while and then Gini too.
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      Reply #2036: Feb 18, 2019 09:58:59 pm
      Wasn't Virgil ill for a while and then Gini too.


      Yeah been a few - that’s kinda my point there’s loads of virus / bugs about everywhere just now.

      I’m not sure the trips away are the issue - correlation vs causation.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2037: Feb 19, 2019 03:17:00 am
      Yeah been a few - that’s kinda my point there’s loads of virus / bugs about everywhere just now.

      I’m not sure the trips away are the issue - correlation vs causation.

      I can’t see it being down to the trips away because we aren’t the only team suffering with it.
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      Reply #2038: Feb 19, 2019 12:46:30 pm
      I hardly ever get sick till I travel. That’s just my personal experience. I seem to fair well against the local stuff but I go somewhere else and catch something. Could just be cooncidence, but a change in climate a lot of times plays havoc with my immune system.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2039: Feb 19, 2019 01:36:14 pm
      Me and Mrs both ran with common or garden viruses until totally floored.

      Half my work off at the moment and I work in the HQ of a massive company.

      I think the Dubai / Marbella thing is a red herring.

      Plenty about.

      There was a really nasty one around here last month that I picked up.
      F***ing horrible, and my sinuses still haven't got back to normal.

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