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      Roberto Firmino Player Thread

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      heimdall
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2275: Sep 14, 2020 01:31:07 pm
      Don't think we should be ready to test that against the Chavs and The Gunners. Let's just hope Bobby finds his form and quick. I miss his celebrations!

      Yeah, probably start Bobby against the Chavs but if he's still sh*t, I wouldn't hesitate to replace him, Klopp is a bit to slow at doing that sometimes, but I feel we need to try a few new things in attack this season and perhaps Rhian or Taki alongside Mo and Sadio with Keita and/or Bobby behind them might be just the trick.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2276: Sep 14, 2020 07:07:02 pm
      Yeah, probably start Bobby against the Chavs but if he's still sh*t, I wouldn't hesitate to replace him, Klopp is a bit to slow at doing that sometimes, but I feel we need to try a few new things in attack this season and perhaps Rhian or Taki alongside Mo and Sadio with Keita and/or Bobby behind them might be just the trick.

      4-2-3-1. I think I am going to keep on beating that drum for a while (apologies in advance everybody). Bobby and Minamino looked really good in that formation together.
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      Reply #2277: Sep 14, 2020 11:13:26 pm
      To be fair he can do what he wants because hes not getting replaced by Mini Origi or Brewster any time soon. He probably knows it too.

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      Reply #2278: Sep 15, 2020 05:04:09 am
      4-2-3-1. I think I am going to keep on beating that drum for a while (apologies in advance everybody). Bobby and Minamino looked really good in that formation together.

      I'm thinking that setup is meant for teams that park the bus against us, which as you know are more than a few. I don't think we would see it vs. Chelsea.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2279: Sep 15, 2020 09:47:57 am
      To be fair he can do what he wants because hes not getting replaced by Mini Origi or Brewster any time soon. He probably knows it too.



      and there is the biggest problem in our team, that the front three know they are the first names on the team sheet every week, irrespective of how they play.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2280: Sep 16, 2020 11:07:30 am
      Thing is with Bobby, he can be piss poor for 90 mins, then turn on a bit of magic and win the game for you, be it with a bit of genius, and a sublime assist or a goal out of nowhere !
      Jürgen clearly knows this and is always reluctant to tug him too early !
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      Reply #2281: Sep 16, 2020 01:48:09 pm
      Thing is with Bobby, he can be piss poor for 90 mins, then turn on a bit of magic and win the game for you, be it with a bit of genius, and a sublime assist or a goal out of nowhere !
      Jürgen clearly knows this and is always reluctant to tug him too early !


      can he, do you have some examples?  I'd say that was true of Mo and Sadio but not really Bobby, if he starts a game sh*t he normally ends the game sh*t and vice versa.
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      Reply #2282: Sep 16, 2020 02:32:38 pm
      can he, do you have some examples?  I'd say that was true of Mo and Sadio but not really Bobby, if he starts a game sh*t he normally ends the game sh*t and vice versa.

      He's produced brilliance for us on countless occasions, off the top of my head there's Southampton & Wolves away last season, his last minute goal against PSG in the Champions League, his 40 yard volley away at Stoke a few years ago which was vital to getting us back into the Champions League...

      Honestly if you don't think he's capable of producing magic which can win us games then I haven't got a f**king clue which Roberto Firmino you've been watching for the last 5 years
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      Reply #2283: Sep 16, 2020 02:51:01 pm
      He's produced brilliance for us on countless occasions, off the top of my head there's Southampton & Wolves away last season, his last minute goal against PSG in the Champions League, his 40 yard volley away at Stoke a few years ago which was vital to getting us back into the Champions League...

      Honestly if you don't think he's capable of producing magic which can win us games then I haven't got a f**king clue which Roberto Firmino you've been watching for the last 5 years

      I think heimdall's point is Bobby only tends to produce the goods in front of goal when his confidences is up and this is usually evident from kick off. Like when he single handedly tore arsenal apart a couple of seasons ago you could see as soon as the game started he was on fire.

      But when Bobby starts a game slow he never seems to really get in to a rhythm or looks a goal threat.

      This is in contrast to Mo and Mane who can starts games slowly but have the pace and power to suddenly explode in to action at any point in the game.
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      Reply #2284: Sep 16, 2020 02:55:35 pm
      He's produced brilliance for us on countless occasions, off the top of my head there's Southampton & Wolves away last season, his last minute goal against PSG in the Champions League, his 40 yard volley away at Stoke a few years ago which was vital to getting us back into the Champions League...

      Honestly if you don't think he's capable of producing magic which can win us games then I haven't got a f**king clue which Roberto Firmino you've been watching for the last 5 years

      No you are conflating two things again, perhaps deliberately.

      I am NOT denying that Bobby is a brilliant player, there is a tonne of evidence of that, what I am saying is that normally when Bobby has a sh*t game he doesn't have a moment of brilliance.
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      Reply #2285: Sep 16, 2020 02:56:08 pm
      I think heimdall's point is Bobby only tends to produce the goods in front of goal when his confidences is up and this is usually evident from kick off. Like when he single handedly tore arsenal apart a couple of seasons ago you could see as soon as the game started he was on fire.

      But when Bobby starts a game slow he never seems to really get in to a rhythm or looks a goal threat.

      This is in contrast to Mo and Mane who can starts games slowly but have the pace and power to suddenly explode in to action at any point in the game.

      Bingo.
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      Reply #2286: Sep 16, 2020 03:00:07 pm
      I think heimdall's point is Bobby only tends to produce the goods in front of goal when his confidences is up and this is usually evident from kick off. Like when he single handedly tore arsenal apart a couple of seasons ago you could see as soon as the game started he was on fire.

      But when Bobby starts a game slow he never seems to really get in to a rhythm or looks a goal threat.

      This is in contrast to Mo and Mane who can starts games slowly but have the pace and power to suddenly explode in to action at any point in the game.

      And in all of those examples I gave he didn't put in a top performance but produced the goods when it mattered (Which was why I didn't include the Arsenal game from the other year - PSG is maybe an exception because I think he came off the bench for that one with about half an hour left)
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2287: Sep 16, 2020 03:03:28 pm
      No you are conflating two things again, perhaps deliberately.

      I am NOT denying that Bobby is a brilliant player, there is a tonne of evidence of that, what I am saying is that normally when Bobby has a sh*t game he doesn't have a moment of brilliance.

      In the examples I've given, he didn't have a great game up until his goals. So I don't know what you're on about there
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      Reply #2288: Sep 16, 2020 04:24:57 pm
      In the examples I've given, he didn't have a great game up until his goals. So I don't know what you're on about there

      OK, a few isolated examples but as a general rule Bobby is either good or bad, lately its been a lot more bad than good.
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      Reply #2289: Sep 16, 2020 04:36:35 pm
      OK, a few isolated examples but as a general rule Bobby is either good or bad, lately its been a lot more bad than good.

      Examples which you asked for  :lmao:
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2290: Sep 16, 2020 05:15:52 pm

      Have you a link to these examples
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      Reply #2291: Sep 16, 2020 05:34:11 pm

      Acknowledged thanks, but my point still stands that Bobby tends to be hot or cold, although there are a few exceptions to that rule where he played sh*t but had one moment of brilliance in the match.

      BTW I don't really recall those examples you listed but I will take your word on it.
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      Reply #2292: Sep 16, 2020 05:34:51 pm
      Have you a link to these examples

      LOL
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      Reply #2293: Sep 16, 2020 06:00:36 pm
      I see the resident wum has shifted from "Salah needs to be dropped" to "Firmino needs to be dropped".

      No doubt he'll be on Brewsters back again soon, or Salah if he goes a couple of games without scoring.

      What a clown.

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      Reply #2294: Sep 16, 2020 06:17:24 pm
      Nothing will ever stop me loving Firmino
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      Reply #2295: Sep 16, 2020 06:30:58 pm
      I see the resident wum has shifted from "Salah needs to be dropped" to "Firmino needs to be dropped".

      No doubt he'll be on Brewsters back again soon, or Salah if he goes a couple of games without scoring.

      What a clown.



      It was Van Dijk the other day.

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