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      Roberto Firmino Player Thread

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      DanMann
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2300: Oct 05, 2020 09:54:20 am
      When his work off the ball is not compensating for his lack of goals then you got to question why he deserves to start ahead of others.
      Bobby has been poor for so long but the other 2 either side of him are still firing so maybe it’s those two who make him look good rather than the opposite.

      Always been this way. He is riding on the back of being part of our incredible "front 3". His lack of anything has always been justified by the invisible brilliance he shows in ways that we cannot comprehend. He contributes little - but does amazing stuff that no one can pinpoint.

      Yesterday, it wasn't only that he wasted chances and did nothing in attack, but he gave away pointless fouls and gave away the ball. He should have been subbed much earlier, or should have walked off the pitch. We would have been better with 10 men.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2301: Oct 05, 2020 10:31:12 am
      When his work off the ball is not compensating for his lack of goals then you got to question why he deserves to start ahead of others.

      Been poor this season.  No doubt.  Seems to have lost a bit of that spark.

      Don't buy into this over the top criticism of him though and suggestions he has 'invisible brilliance'.  Basically if he plays well we win games and when he doesn't it's noticeable.  That suggests to me he is a crucial player for us not a passenger.  Of the front three the one you can't get away with having a bad game is Bobby. 

      If someone is in better form then they should be playing. No problem with that.  I'm sure Klopp hasn't got a problem with that.  I've got faith he's picking the best player based on what he sees in training or in games.

      If the likes of Minamino and Curtis Jones are potential options for there then they've hardly banged down the door to the first team in the past two games.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2302: Oct 06, 2020 12:18:01 am
      It's been a stretch of games now (I can't remember when it started exactly) that he has been bad. I mean there is the odd game here and there but overall just bad.

      I know yesterday's game everybody looked sh*t apart from maybe Robbo and Mo, but somehow, for me, Bobby managed to look as bad as Adrian. He was no where near pressing without the ball and when he had the ball he was so easy to dispossess it was frustrating to watch.

      The only occasion he got he managed to waste in a frustrating way just like he did when we played Arsenal in the Comm Shield and he wasted like 3 goals trying to score with the outside of his foot or finish in an improbable way despite a simple finish being all that is required.

      I don't know what is up with Bobby but I hope he picks up the pace soon enough.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2303: Oct 10, 2020 08:53:39 am
      Couple of goals today for Brazil
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2304: Oct 10, 2020 09:08:28 am
      Couple of goals today for Brazil

      Does he lead the line for them?
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2305: Oct 10, 2020 09:37:19 am
      Couple of goals today for Brazil

      If he didn't score against Bolivia I'd be concerned if he'd ever score again.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2306: Oct 10, 2020 09:58:37 am

      Not sure if that is a rhetorical  question 🤔
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2307: Oct 10, 2020 10:41:43 am
      Not sure if that is a rhetorical  question 🤔

      Heh. I didn't see the game so I don't know where they line him up or even what formation they used
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      Reply #2308: Oct 10, 2020 11:10:29 am
      Heh. I didn't see the game so I don't know where they line him up or even what formation they used

      Ha ha sorry pal wasn't sure if was being facetious my bad. Not sure looked liked it made a lung busting run for his second after starting move in own half
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      Reply #2309: Oct 10, 2020 01:24:59 pm
      Ha ha sorry pal wasn't sure if was being facetious my bad. Not sure looked liked it made a lung busting run for his second after starting move in own half

      Yeah, just seen the highlights. He helps start the move 30 yards in front of his goal and then goes all out to the other end. His finish clangs off the keeper but, you know. First goal is a nice far post run and close finish.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2310: Oct 17, 2020 08:06:27 pm
      Needs to be pulled out for  game or two
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2311: Oct 17, 2020 08:43:33 pm
      Needs to be pulled out for  game or two
      Yeah he needs a few games coming off the bench, think it’s time Minamino started to get some starts.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2312: Oct 18, 2020 07:54:28 am
      Bobby genuinely looks like he might not score for us again. Each game he's finding himself less frequently in goal scoring positions. And his link up play has dropped off big time he passes the ball to the opposition multiple times each game. He still has a nice trick or two up his sleeve each game but that's not enough to cut it anymore. We are conceding goals left and right so we need to start scoring more and Bobby does not offer any goal threat.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2313: Oct 18, 2020 10:04:37 am
      Bobby genuinely looks like he might not score for us again. Each game he's finding himself less frequently in goal scoring positions. And his link up play has dropped off big time he passes the ball to the opposition multiple times each game. He still has a nice trick or two up his sleeve each game but that's not enough to cut it anymore. We are conceding goals left and right so we need to start scoring more and Bobby does not offer any goal threat.

      I am convinced this Season will be the last one you see the front 3 together on a regular basis
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2314: Oct 18, 2020 10:06:53 am
      What's happened to him? He's a shadow of his former self.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2315: Oct 18, 2020 10:27:19 am
      I am convinced this Season will be the last one you see the front 3 together on a regular basis

      It has to be. All front lines need to be refreshed every 4 or 5 years or they stagnate and oppositions learn how to cope with them.

      Only Mane appears to gave the same desire and motivation as he did last season. Mo is scoring and playing pretty well but not to the the level he can and Bobby is just plain poor for months now.

      Maybe we will see Jota start games regularly in the next few weeks once he has adapted to Klopps style. He looks a much better player to me than Bobby right now.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2316: Oct 18, 2020 10:36:29 am
      It has to be. All front lines need to be refreshed every 4 or 5 years or they stagnate and oppositions learn how to cope with them.

      Only Mane appears to gave the same desire and motivation as he did last season. Mo is scoring and playing pretty well but not to the the level he can and Bobby is just plain poor for months now.

      Maybe we will see Jota start games regularly in the next few weeks once he has adapted to Klopps style. He looks a much better player to me than Bobby right now.

      Jota one option as already in place I also think Sancho could come into the mix but would have to be a big sale to fund
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2317: Oct 18, 2020 12:00:18 pm
      I am convinced this Season will be the last one you see the front 3 together on a regular basis

      If it wasn't for Covid, I think it would have been refreshed this summer just gone.
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      Reply #2318: Oct 18, 2020 12:03:20 pm
      If it wasn't for Covid, I think it would have been refreshed this summer just gone.

      Possibly I suppose it already has with Jota though
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2319: Oct 18, 2020 04:08:08 pm
      Didn’t he start of when he was younger has a CAM? Or play there at some point? He’s still an insane player, with passing and flicks... he just doesn’t have the pace or positioning in front of goal to score... maybe it’s time for a position change? With Jota taking up that forward position?

      We could play him as an attacking midfield role in some games maybe, like a 4-2-3-1, with him at CAM or even just part of a midfield 3, he’s got the stamina and pressing to do a job there I think.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2320: Oct 18, 2020 04:13:23 pm
      With Dijk and Thiago likely out for at least a few matches, maybe it’s a decent time to try something like this with Bobby...

                   Adrian
      Trent Gomez Matip Robbo
             Hendo Fabinho
          Salah Firmino Mane
                     Jota

      Or Fabinho in defence with Gini next to Hendo.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2321: Oct 18, 2020 10:11:47 pm
      I am convinced this Season will be the last one you see the front 3 together on a regular basis

      I'm convinced our front 3 next Season will be Sadio Mbappe and Mo.

      I love Bobby but we need an out an out goal scorer up there.

      Sadio gets his 20-30, Mo gets his 20-30 and Mbappe in our Team, will get 40-50. convinced!!
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2322: Oct 18, 2020 10:14:39 pm
      I'm convinced our front 3 next Season will be Sadio Mbappe and Mo.

      I love Bobby but we need an out an out goal scorer up there.

      Sadio gets his 20-30, Mo gets his 20-30 and Mbappe in our Team, will get 40-50. convinced!!

      😀

      That's some strong f**king weed tonight Aus 😃
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2323: Oct 18, 2020 10:18:55 pm
      😀

      That's some strong f**king weed tonight Aus 😃

      It's always strong Brother...

      Don't smoke no weak sh*t

      It's gonna happen mate. I'm telling ya. Will get excited when it does but for now, I just want Bobby to bang in one, then I think the floodgates might open for him.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2324: Oct 18, 2020 10:21:41 pm
      It's always strong Brother...

      Don't smoke no weak sh*t

      It's gonna happen mate. I'm telling ya. Will get excited when it does but for now, I just want Bobby to bang in one, then I think the floodgates might open for him.

      I might start smoking it if it makes me think we will sign Mbappe 😀

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