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      Roberto Firmino Player Thread (F)

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      bazspeedman
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2415: Nov 20, 2020 06:37:03 pm
      I’m guessing it would just be his career stats. Essentially 1 in 3 for both club and country.

      Edit: That was based on his league appearances. More precisely, he scores at a rate of 1 goal in 2.93 matches for Brazil, and a rate of 1 goal in 3.24 matches for Liverpool.

      His rate over the last 18 months for us is 1 PL goal per 4.6 games.

      This needs to improve dramatically.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2416: Nov 20, 2020 07:12:07 pm
      His rate over the last 18 months for us is 1 PL goal per 4.6 games.

      This needs to improve dramatically.
      It remains true though that his scoring record is the same for club and county. This was the point that was being made.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2417: Nov 20, 2020 11:36:00 pm
      Hat-trick against The Foxes would be wonderful, thanks Bobby.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2418: Nov 21, 2020 12:05:49 am
      It remains true though that his scoring record is the same for club and county. This was the point that was being made.

      Although perhaps not recently.
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      Reply #2419: Nov 21, 2020 09:56:05 am
      Hat-trick against The Foxes would be wonderful, thanks Bobby.

      You awake yet Ian.  :f_whistle:
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2420: Nov 21, 2020 11:57:00 pm

      I'll tell you tomorrow morning Melbourne time!  ;D
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2421: Nov 22, 2020 10:24:21 am
      Is that true, almost every time I check on a Brazil score line he is listed as one of the scorers, are you saying he scores at the same rate for club and country? If so can you please point me to that stat?


      For Brazil he has 16 in 47 - one in every 3


      For Liverpool he has 79 is 256 - one in every 3

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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2422: Nov 22, 2020 01:16:19 pm

      For Brazil he has 16 in 47 - one in every 3


      For Liverpool he has 79 is 256 - one in every 3



      What is he in the last 18 months?

      Love bobby to bits but the guy isn't a machine. He is out of form and thats OK ... hes a class act.

      Shaq Jota Mane is my 3 today.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2423: Nov 22, 2020 02:46:06 pm
      What is he in the last 18 months?

      Love bobby to bits but the guy isn't a machine. He is out of form and thats OK ... hes a class act.

      Shaq Jota Mane is my 3 today.


      In the last 18 months he was a key player in a team that won the title - it’s bad enough when rivals point fingers at Firmino but then his own fans start doing it.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2424: Nov 22, 2020 03:00:25 pm

      In the last 18 months he was a key player in a team that won the title - it’s bad enough when rivals point fingers at Firmino but then his own fans start doing it.

      Key player is pushing it a bit there lad. Mane and Mo were bigger key players up front. Look at that goal scoring stat about home league games last season, it wasn't good enough, simple as.
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      Reply #2425: Nov 22, 2020 03:11:40 pm
      Key player is pushing it a bit there lad. Mane and Mo were bigger key players up front. Look at that goal scoring stat about home league games last season, it wasn't good enough, simple as.

      Hes key to how effective Mane and Mo are though

      Look at how the other players talk about him

      Yes he goal scoring record isnt amazing but the work he does for others is. If he scored 10 more a season but Mane and Mo scored less as a balance would fans be happier?
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2426: Nov 22, 2020 03:41:19 pm
      Hes key to how effective Mane and Mo are though

      Look at how the other players talk about him

      Yes he goal scoring record isnt amazing but the work he does for others is. If he scored 10 more a season but Mane and Mo scored less as a balance would fans be happier?

      Inclusion of Thiago and Shaq getting more game time should change that especially Thiago once he's fully up to game fitness.

      The way the whole squad talk about him is different, a good thing like, shows the squad have got each others back, team morale etc.

      Just personally think the last six months have seen a drop in form and performances from Bobby.
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      Reply #2427: Nov 22, 2020 03:46:50 pm


      Just personally think the last six months have seen a drop in form and performances from Bobby.

      I think Bobby does look a bit goosed to be honest, and I think he more than anyone in the squad needs a full Anfield or away end

      Hes probably desperate to hear Si Senor just as much as we want to sing it
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2428: Nov 22, 2020 04:08:02 pm
      I think Bobby does look a bit goosed to be honest, and I think he more than anyone in the squad needs a full Anfield or away end

      Hes probably desperate to hear Si Senor just as much as we want to sing it

      Can imagine the lift..,

      https://twitter.com/theanfieldwrap/status/1330122597581934594?s=21
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      Reply #2429: Nov 22, 2020 04:10:36 pm
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2430: Nov 22, 2020 04:13:53 pm
      If he scored 10 more a season but Mane and Mo scored less as a balance would fans be happier?

      We won't know this mate unless Jota plays 20 games or so this season next to Mo and Mane to see how the stats compare.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2431: Nov 22, 2020 04:56:17 pm
      Key player is pushing it a bit there lad. Mane and Mo were bigger key players up front. Look at that goal scoring stat about home league games last season, it wasn't good enough, simple as.


      The reason why Mane and Mo were key were because of Firmino and all the work Bobby does on the pitch - and it looks like a lot of it unnoticed as well. Does it matter if he doesn’t score at home as long as he is doing the exact job the manager wants - and from what Klopp has said many times it’s not about scoring goals for Bobby
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2432: Nov 22, 2020 05:28:29 pm
      I remember there was an interview with Firmino not long ago, where he said he went to Klopp, worried that he wasn't scoring enough goals.

      Klopps answer? "Just keep doing what you're doing".
      He's stated so many times that Firmino's game is not about goals.

      Might be an idea for some to take that on board.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2433: Nov 22, 2020 05:29:16 pm

      The reason why Mane and Mo were key were because of Firmino and all the work Bobby does on the pitch - and it looks like a lot of it unnoticed as well. Does it matter if he doesn’t score at home as long as he is doing the exact job the manager wants - and from what Klopp has said many times it’s not about scoring goals for Bobby

      Agree, so we can also agree the last six months have definitely seen a drop in those standards from Bobby. If you can't see it take the rose tinted glasses off lid!!
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2434: Nov 22, 2020 06:15:48 pm
      Agree, so we can also agree the last six months have definitely seen a drop in those standards from Bobby. If you can't see it take the rose tinted glasses off lid!!


      Last 6 months ? No - maybe has been inconsistent since the restart then yes
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2435: Nov 22, 2020 06:26:30 pm

      Last 6 months ? No - maybe has been inconsistent since the restart then yes

      Alright whatever, how many other games before lockdown since chrimbo can you remember him having a massive impact?
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2436: Nov 22, 2020 06:33:30 pm
      Alright whatever, how many other games before lockdown since chrimbo can you remember him having a massive impact?

      You can't... because he hasn't. But there are supporters so loyal to Bobby they would rather see him play with one leg than be dropped. And would still convince themselves he should be starting.

      That being said I would love to see Bobby back to his 18-19 season form as he was immense back then.

      Hopefully he can recapture some of that tonight.
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      Re: Roberto Firmino Player Thread
      Reply #2437: Nov 22, 2020 06:44:38 pm
      Alright whatever, how many other games before lockdown since chrimbo can you remember him having a massive impact?

      I remeber a couple key goals vs Wolves and Spurs just after Christmas when we had a tough run but I think his 19/20 can summarized in not many goal but he came up good when we needed it.



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