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      Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread

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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #500: Jan 06, 2019 04:24:04 pm
      Can someone please check to see if we're in the matrix. He was fourth choice, how many squads have RB cover that deep?

      This is nuts and smacks of people who just want to be angry

      2 of those covers are midfielders the other is our CB so yes I think it makes sense to keep a specialist RB for a few more months.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #501: Jan 06, 2019 04:28:55 pm
      Can someone please check to see if we're in the matrix. He was fourth choice, how many squads have RB cover that deep?

      This is nuts and smacks of people who just want to be angry

      Some have genuine concerns I’m sure mate - I just don’t get it.

      It’s just wind, piss and self importance though for a few nuisances Rodders.

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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #502: Jan 06, 2019 04:30:06 pm
      2 of those covers are midfielders the other is our CB so yes I think it makes sense to keep a specialist RB for a few more months.
      I agree, other than Fabinho who can cover RB? He's probably included Milner in that who is actually LB cover not right back. Putting Milner as RB is not only risky, it could end up with Moreno getting a lot of games for us if Robertson gets injured.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #503: Jan 06, 2019 04:32:18 pm
      So if Jürgen sold Mane, would you also say Boss knows best, at what point would you ever dare to question him?

      Well people questioned selling Coutinho and not replacing him, yes we got in VVD but in terms of firepower, it looked as though we had significantly weakened us. As it goes though, we instantly looked better without him as a team and scored just as many goals, so I think Klopp knows what he’s doing and has earned himself credit for people to not be getting so hot under the collar about selling a 4th choice RB that’s played a few times in 2 years, a 5th choice striker who hasn’t played a single game this season and only managed 1 goal in 27 and potentially selling the 4th choice striker that has played 2 part games in 2 years for us.

      So I’m inclined to say no, I’m not going to question him.

      All this just seems like such a needless overreaction.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #504: Jan 06, 2019 04:33:19 pm
      Can someone please check to see if we're in the matrix. He was fourth choice, how many squads have RB cover that deep?

      This is nuts and smacks of people who just want to be angry
      sorry to double quote you, but he was not 4th choice. Milly is Robbo's backup not TAA. 3rd choice behind Fabinho?
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #505: Jan 06, 2019 04:37:15 pm
      Well people questioned selling Coutinho and not replacing him, yes we got in VVD but in terms of firepower, it looked as though we had significantly weakened us. As it goes though, we instantly looked better without him as a team and scored just as many goals, so I think Klopp knows what he’s doing and has earned himself credit for people to not be getting so hot under the collar about selling a 4th choice RB that’s played a few times in 2 years, a 5th choice striker who hasn’t played a single game this season and only managed 1 goal in 27 and potentially selling the 4th choice striker that has played 2 part games in 2 years for us.

      So I’m inclined to say no, I’m not going to question him.

      All this just seems like such a needless overreaction.
      I want bothered about Coutinho, saw him as a double edged sword. Whenever he played we had big gaps in defence.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #506: Jan 06, 2019 04:39:39 pm
      sorry to double quote you, but he was not 4th choice. Milly is Robbo's backup not TAA. 3rd choice behind Fabinho?

      You're forgetting Gomez was being used there as well, we have two good prospects coming through. This just seems a strange thing for people to be getting their knickers in a twist over. It's even below the vegan sausage roll faux outrage.
      « Last Edit: Jan 06, 2019 05:00:33 pm by Roddenberry »
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #507: Jan 06, 2019 04:41:10 pm
      sorry to double quote you, but he was not 4th choice. Milly is Robbo's backup not TAA. 3rd choice behind Fabinho?

      Then how come Milner has played at RB ahead of Clyne every time apart from the Manc game? Clyne wasn’t injured every time. Clyne played well against the Mancs but it was Milner straight back in to that role the following game. He only played vs the Mancs because Milly was injured.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #508: Jan 06, 2019 04:42:33 pm
      Well people questioned selling Coutinho and not replacing him, yes we got in VVD but in terms of firepower, it looked as though we had significantly weakened us. As it goes though, we instantly looked better without him as a team and scored just as many goals, so I think Klopp knows what he’s doing and has earned himself credit for people to not be getting so hot under the collar about selling a 4th choice RB that’s played a few times in 2 years, a 5th choice striker who hasn’t played a single game this season and only managed 1 goal in 27 and potentially selling the 4th choice striker that has played 2 part games in 2 years for us.

      So I’m inclined to say no, I’m not going to question him.

      All this just seems like such a needless overreaction.

      The issue is with clyne is the timing. With both gomez and matip options at the back are very thin. Milner played at rb v Bournemouth. as clyne was out. As it stands if something happens to trent you have milly or fabinho filling in with young hoever as back up. As for origi, back up for bobby is studge who is danger of getting a campaign medal for staying fit for so longer. Then you are looking at brewster who hasn't got back into full training yet. Why risk leaving yourself short ?
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #509: Jan 06, 2019 04:48:07 pm
      The issue is with clyne is the timing. With both gomez and matip options at the back are very thin. Milner played at rb v Bournemouth. as clyne was out. As it stands if something happens to trent you have milly or fabinho filling in with young hoever as back up. As for origi, back up for bobby is studge who is danger of getting a campaign medal for staying fit for so longer. Then you are looking at brewster who hasn't got back into full training yet. Why risk leaving yourself short ?

      But it’s players that haven’t been involved properly for 2 years.
      I get what you are saying but I don’t know why people are expecting such a big injury crisis to happen where we lose a load of defenders again, Half the midfield and half the attack. Which in all honesty, is needed for them to all actually be used because Klopp has shown he will just alter a regular players position to cover if possible and to be honest it’s worked.
      Also in all honesty, if we have a big injury crisis where we need all the likes of Clyne, Origi, Solanke etc, it would mean we’ve lost a significant number of key players to which if that happens, we aren’t winning anything.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #510: Jan 06, 2019 04:51:57 pm
      But it’s players that haven’t been involved properly for 2 years.
      I get what you are saying but I don’t know why people are expecting such a big injury crisis to happen where we lose a load of defenders again, Half the midfield and half the attack. Which in all honesty, is needed for them to all actually be used because Klopp has shown he will just alter a regular players position to cover if possible and to be honest it’s worked.
      Also in all honesty, if we have a big injury crisis where we need all the likes of Clyne, Origi, Solanke etc, it would mean we’ve lost a significant number of key players to which if that happens, we aren’t winning anything.


      Remember the end of last season when in the cl final we brought on lallana and can who had hardly figured through injury. Why risk it ?
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #511: Jan 06, 2019 04:56:43 pm
      Remember the end of last season when in the cl final we brought on lallana and can who had hardly figured through injury. Why risk it ?

      And look how well that went bringing on Lallana?! He made no difference at all, he was poor. So why do people really think the likes of Solanke, Clyne and possibly Origi leaving now is actually going to make any difference if we are that short on players that we actually need them.
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      Reply #512: Jan 06, 2019 05:06:52 pm
      And look how well that went bringing on Lallana?! He made no difference at all, he was poor. So why do people really think the likes of Solanke, Clyne and possibly Origi leaving now is actually going to make any difference if we are that short on players that we actually need them.

      Lallana had actually been injured and so in no way was prepared for anything other tgan a bit part role. You need strength in depth to compete. Because we haven't been challenging regularly for so long people can't see this and we see this bullshit about prioritising one competition over another
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #513: Jan 06, 2019 05:13:34 pm
      Lallana had actually been injured and so in no way was prepared for anything other tgan a bit part role. You need strength in depth to compete. Because we haven't been challenging regularly for so long people can't see this and we see this bullshit about prioritising one competition over another
      Some players hit the ground running, Lallana takes a lot of games to get good again but we have no room for him to get those games. Rather have loaned him out than Clyne. Prioritising is because it's better to win one trophy than runner up in 3.
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      Reply #514: Jan 06, 2019 05:20:32 pm
      Some players hit the ground running, Lallana takes a lot of games to get good again but we have no room for him to get those games. Rather have loaned him out than Clyne. Prioritising is because it's better to win one trophy than runner up in 3.

      Or runner up in 1 and nowhere to be seen in the other 3
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #515: Jan 06, 2019 05:57:15 pm
      I'm more amazed that Klopp granted him a move, he should have said shut the f**k up, sit there on the bench and if I need you then I expect you to play your part then in the summer you can go wherever you want.

      Is Klopp really this weak?

      Yes Klopp is that weak :roll:
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #516: Jan 06, 2019 06:03:48 pm
      sorry to double quote you, but he was not 4th choice. Milly is Robbo's backup not TAA. 3rd choice behind Fabinho?

      Yet Milner played there when TAA and Gomez were out injured.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #517: Jan 06, 2019 06:04:48 pm

      It's the new narrative our resident trolls are trying to create.

      They've been trying to run with it for months, but our pesky team keeps winning and spoiling their next attack line.

      Now, after 1 league defeat, it gets dusted off and brought out again.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #518: Jan 06, 2019 06:05:19 pm
      Yet Milner played there when TAA and Gomez were out injured.
      Milner played RB, not left back recently yes, but still. Think Clyne should be above Milner for RB. Clyne can play either side. If we end up with Moreno covering Robinson tomorrow, don't say I didn't tell you so.
      « Last Edit: Jan 06, 2019 06:10:20 pm by Ribapuru »
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #519: Jan 06, 2019 06:11:28 pm
      Milner played RB, not left back recently yes. Clyne can play either side. If we end up with Moreno covering Robinson tomorrow, don't say I didn't tell you so.

      So, Milner played RB recently (and has done before) and spent much of a season playing LB, and your argument is that Clyne can also play LB but somehow Milner can't.

       :laugh:

      Crap trolling
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #520: Jan 06, 2019 06:13:17 pm
      So, Milner played RB recently (and has done before) and spent much of a season playing LB, and your argument is that Clyne can also play LB but somehow Milner can't.

       :laugh:

      Crap trolling
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      Milner isn't a real defender and Clyne is, it's that simple.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #521: Jan 06, 2019 06:13:39 pm
      Milner played RB, not left back recently yes, but still. Think Clyne should be above Milner for RB. Clyne can play either side. If we end up with Moreno covering Robinson tomorrow, don't say I didn't tell you so.

      I’m confused but if Robbo got injured why wouldn’t Milner cover
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #522: Jan 06, 2019 06:16:56 pm
      Milner isn't a real defender and Clyne is, it's that simple.

      He's not a real defender?

      Have his legs gone as well, y'know, him being over 30?

      Not a real defender but he played at LB for pretty much a whole season and has played RB many times in his career?

      Clyne is a "real defender" and yet somehow Milner is played ahead of him near enough every time?

      Keep going Barry, this is brilliant stuff.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #523: Jan 06, 2019 06:37:21 pm
      He's not a real defender?

      Have his legs gone as well, y'know, him being over 30?

      Not a real defender but he played at LB for pretty much a whole season and has played RB many times in his career?

      Clyne is a "real defender" and yet somehow Milner is played ahead of him near enough every time?

      Keep going Barry, this is brilliant stuff.
      what did we win in that year when Milner was at LB all season?
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #524: Jan 06, 2019 06:41:56 pm
      what did we win in that year when Milner was at LB all season?

      Barry, you're really going to have to up your trolling game.

      This is a very silly argument.

      What have we won with Clyne at RB?

      Come to that, how many trophies has Clyne won compared to Milner (hint, it's fewer trophies).

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