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      Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)

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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #510: Jan 06, 2019 04:51:57 pm
      But it’s players that haven’t been involved properly for 2 years.
      I get what you are saying but I don’t know why people are expecting such a big injury crisis to happen where we lose a load of defenders again, Half the midfield and half the attack. Which in all honesty, is needed for them to all actually be used because Klopp has shown he will just alter a regular players position to cover if possible and to be honest it’s worked.
      Also in all honesty, if we have a big injury crisis where we need all the likes of Clyne, Origi, Solanke etc, it would mean we’ve lost a significant number of key players to which if that happens, we aren’t winning anything.


      Remember the end of last season when in the cl final we brought on lallana and can who had hardly figured through injury. Why risk it ?
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #511: Jan 06, 2019 04:56:43 pm
      Remember the end of last season when in the cl final we brought on lallana and can who had hardly figured through injury. Why risk it ?

      And look how well that went bringing on Lallana?! He made no difference at all, he was poor. So why do people really think the likes of Solanke, Clyne and possibly Origi leaving now is actually going to make any difference if we are that short on players that we actually need them.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #512: Jan 06, 2019 05:06:52 pm
      And look how well that went bringing on Lallana?! He made no difference at all, he was poor. So why do people really think the likes of Solanke, Clyne and possibly Origi leaving now is actually going to make any difference if we are that short on players that we actually need them.

      Lallana had actually been injured and so in no way was prepared for anything other tgan a bit part role. You need strength in depth to compete. Because we haven't been challenging regularly for so long people can't see this and we see this bullshit about prioritising one competition over another
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #513: Jan 06, 2019 05:13:34 pm
      Lallana had actually been injured and so in no way was prepared for anything other tgan a bit part role. You need strength in depth to compete. Because we haven't been challenging regularly for so long people can't see this and we see this bullshit about prioritising one competition over another
      Some players hit the ground running, Lallana takes a lot of games to get good again but we have no room for him to get those games. Rather have loaned him out than Clyne. Prioritising is because it's better to win one trophy than runner up in 3.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #514: Jan 06, 2019 05:20:32 pm
      Some players hit the ground running, Lallana takes a lot of games to get good again but we have no room for him to get those games. Rather have loaned him out than Clyne. Prioritising is because it's better to win one trophy than runner up in 3.

      Or runner up in 1 and nowhere to be seen in the other 3
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #515: Jan 06, 2019 05:57:15 pm
      I'm more amazed that Klopp granted him a move, he should have said shut the f**k up, sit there on the bench and if I need you then I expect you to play your part then in the summer you can go wherever you want.

      Is Klopp really this weak?

      Yes Klopp is that weak :roll:
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #516: Jan 06, 2019 06:03:48 pm
      sorry to double quote you, but he was not 4th choice. Milly is Robbo's backup not TAA. 3rd choice behind Fabinho?

      Yet Milner played there when TAA and Gomez were out injured.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #517: Jan 06, 2019 06:04:48 pm

      It's the new narrative our resident trolls are trying to create.

      They've been trying to run with it for months, but our pesky team keeps winning and spoiling their next attack line.

      Now, after 1 league defeat, it gets dusted off and brought out again.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #518: Jan 06, 2019 06:05:19 pm
      Yet Milner played there when TAA and Gomez were out injured.
      Milner played RB, not left back recently yes, but still. Think Clyne should be above Milner for RB. Clyne can play either side. If we end up with Moreno covering Robinson tomorrow, don't say I didn't tell you so.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #519: Jan 06, 2019 06:11:28 pm
      Milner played RB, not left back recently yes. Clyne can play either side. If we end up with Moreno covering Robinson tomorrow, don't say I didn't tell you so.

      So, Milner played RB recently (and has done before) and spent much of a season playing LB, and your argument is that Clyne can also play LB but somehow Milner can't.

       :laugh:

      Crap trolling
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #520: Jan 06, 2019 06:13:17 pm
      So, Milner played RB recently (and has done before) and spent much of a season playing LB, and your argument is that Clyne can also play LB but somehow Milner can't.

       :laugh:

      Crap trolling
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      Milner isn't a real defender and Clyne is, it's that simple.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #521: Jan 06, 2019 06:13:39 pm
      Milner played RB, not left back recently yes, but still. Think Clyne should be above Milner for RB. Clyne can play either side. If we end up with Moreno covering Robinson tomorrow, don't say I didn't tell you so.

      I’m confused but if Robbo got injured why wouldn’t Milner cover
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #522: Jan 06, 2019 06:16:56 pm
      Milner isn't a real defender and Clyne is, it's that simple.

      He's not a real defender?

      Have his legs gone as well, y'know, him being over 30?

      Not a real defender but he played at LB for pretty much a whole season and has played RB many times in his career?

      Clyne is a "real defender" and yet somehow Milner is played ahead of him near enough every time?

      Keep going Barry, this is brilliant stuff.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #523: Jan 06, 2019 06:37:21 pm
      He's not a real defender?

      Have his legs gone as well, y'know, him being over 30?

      Not a real defender but he played at LB for pretty much a whole season and has played RB many times in his career?

      Clyne is a "real defender" and yet somehow Milner is played ahead of him near enough every time?

      Keep going Barry, this is brilliant stuff.
      what did we win in that year when Milner was at LB all season?
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #524: Jan 06, 2019 06:41:56 pm
      what did we win in that year when Milner was at LB all season?

      Barry, you're really going to have to up your trolling game.

      This is a very silly argument.

      What have we won with Clyne at RB?

      Come to that, how many trophies has Clyne won compared to Milner (hint, it's fewer trophies).
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #525: Jan 06, 2019 06:51:28 pm
      He's not a real defender?

      Have his legs gone as well, y'know, him being over 30?

      Not a real defender but he played at LB for pretty much a whole season and has played RB many times in his career?

      Clyne is a "real defender" and yet somehow Milner is played ahead of him near enough every time?

      Keep going Barry, this is brilliant stuff.
      The first valid point was about Milners age. We're one TAA injury away from having a 33 year old who is getting a bit leggy now, go into the first team as a RB, unless Gomez goes there and you want Lovren or Matip in the middle.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #526: Jan 06, 2019 06:53:35 pm
      Doesn't Fab play right back for  Brazil ?
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #527: Jan 06, 2019 06:55:05 pm
      The first valid point was about Milners age. We're one TAA injury away from having a 33 year old who is getting a bit leggy now, go into the first team as a RB, unless Gomez goes there and you want Lovren or Matip in the middle.

      All hail Barry, arbiter of valid points and moral outrage.

      Milner is perfectly capable of filling in at RB as well you know.
      So is Gomez.
      So is Fabinho (who you conveniently left out)

      Find something else to troll about, because you've lost the plot here and are just embarrassing yourself.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #528: Jan 06, 2019 07:03:26 pm
      Doesn't Fab play right back for  Brazil ?

      Yep and Henderson has played there before as well. This whole Clyne thing is just an opportunity to moan for the usual suspects.

      He's  played about as much as Ings has for us over the last season and a half. He's simply surplus to requirements.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #529: Jan 06, 2019 07:03:49 pm
      All hail Barry, arbiter of valid points and moral outrage.

      Milner is perfectly capable of filling in at RB as well you know.
      So is Gomez.
      So is Fabinho (who you conveniently left out)

      Find something else to troll about, because you've lost the plot here and are just embarrassing yourself.
      I'm not embarrassed about my opinion, you have a lot of faith in Milner, that's good.. however personally in my opinion I don't think he has the stamina to play 90 minutes in a lot of games anymore. We'll see what happens anyway. I'd have kept Clyne and you wouldn't have. Let's just agree on that.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #530: Jan 06, 2019 07:07:32 pm
      I'm not embarrassed about my opinion, you have a lot of faith in Milner, that's good.. however personally in my opinion I don't think he has the stamina to play 90 minutes in a lot of games anymore. We'll see what happens anyway. I'd have kept Clyne and you wouldn't have. Let's just agree on that.

      Milner's probably the fittest guy in the whole squad with a stamina perhaps only Mo Farah can better! You don't know what you're talking about.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #531: Jan 06, 2019 07:12:19 pm
      I'm not embarrassed about my opinion, you have a lot of faith in Milner, that's good.. however personally in my opinion I don't think he has the stamina to play 90 minutes in a lot of games anymore. We'll see what happens anyway. I'd have kept Clyne and you wouldn't have. Let's just agree on that.

      Well, you should be embarrassed about most of the sh*te you post.

      Now, where is your proof that Milner lacks the stamina.
      Which of the LFC coaching metrics do you have access to, and how did you interpret the data?

      Why do you consistently overlook Fabinho?
      Is it because it doesn't fit this trolling you think is so clever?
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #532: Jan 06, 2019 07:15:09 pm
      I'm not embarrassed about my opinion, you have a lot of faith in Milner, that's good.. however personally in my opinion I don't think he has the stamina to play 90 minutes in a lot of games anymore. We'll see what happens anyway. I'd have kept Clyne and you wouldn't have. Let's just agree on that.


      You do know that Milner has tested to be the fittiest in tHe squad 
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #533: Jan 06, 2019 07:20:03 pm
      Milner isn't a real defender and Clyne is, it's that simple.
      Yes milner is no real defender, People talk about his age, Age talks a toll and he is slowing down, I'm would not be surprised if Leeds get promoted; next season we see Milner leave Liverpool for them... Guessing the reason we see Milner a head of Clyne is fitness... And maybe some here should remember how poor he was against City last time. Had he been up against Sane we would have lost by a few more goals, of that i am sure...

      As for playing, LB.RB... What you have done in the past even a couple of seasons ago it does hold you in good stead know that you have done it before, but it does not mean that you can perform that task as well as you did a couples seasons back

      I am no great supporter of Clyne, never ever thought that he was as good as some here felt,But  this stage of the season, with the injuries we are carrying, we should have held on to him...
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #534: Jan 06, 2019 07:28:46 pm
      I'm not embarrassed about my opinion, you have a lot of faith in Milner, that's good.. however personally in my opinion I don't think he has the stamina to play 90 minutes in a lot of games anymore. We'll see what happens anyway. I'd have kept Clyne and you wouldn't have. Let's just agree on that.

      But your predictions and opinions are wrong so often,  you're like a Nostradumbass.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #535: Jan 06, 2019 07:31:22 pm
      I'd probably have kept Clyne. Dom and Divock haven't had much game time either, but more than that, imho don't think they are as good in their positions, as Clyne is in his.
      Sure Milner, or even Fab 'could' fill in at FB, but they are regular midfielders, and having one of them fill in there would leave us a guy light in the middle.
      But we don't know what the club have in mind. I'm assuming now - after letting 3 players go - that we're definitely going to make *at least* one signing in Jan. Someone who will properly compete for a starting place.Think a quality signing would give the squad a lift, and make a statement, heading into the 2nd half of an absolutely MASSIVE 2nd half of the season.
      We're in the driving seat to win our first title in @30 years, so would hope the club will do everything they can to maximise our chances of pushing on, and closing it out. Winning is a habit, so we *need* that first trophy [for this squad] ...
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #536: Jan 06, 2019 07:31:28 pm
      Doesn't Fab play right back for  Brazil ?

      Fab could, but does it not take away what he brings in midfield...?  AS some here forget that Gomez is injured and there is no grantee he will be back early?On time/ or at all... How many players have picked up injuries seemingly recovered only to have set  backs or be re-injured...? that.s why I am saying we need a CB in this window...

      Rib is right... If TAA gets injured, and Matip and Gomez are not fit for the first leg vs Bayern we could see our back four looking like this...
                                       Milner   Fab'   Lovren   Robertson
                                                     
                                                         V.S.

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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #537: Jan 06, 2019 07:39:46 pm
      Thought we had gone past the 'he can do a job there ' sort of attitude.  Short term yes but over a couple of months even the smallest details can count against you.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #538: Jan 06, 2019 07:41:24 pm
      But your predictions and opinions are wrong so often,  you're like a Nostradumbass.

      I wish I could give this 1000 plus's

      Brilliant.
       :laugh:
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)
      Reply #539: Jan 06, 2019 07:50:10 pm
      But your predictions and opinions are wrong so often,  you're like a Nostradumbass.
      I was trying to negotiate the conclusion of a difference of opinion with as much peace as possible, what were you trying to do with your comment?

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