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      Trent Alexander-Arnold Player Thread (D)

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      Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1955: Jun 21, 2024 09:47:00 am
      Not sure I’d be bragging about that if I was Lijinders.

      Don’t think the inverted full back has worked out for us and Trent’s best performances have all come when he’s stayed out wide and played more like a proper RB.

      Yep

      He is a right back

      not a central midfielder.
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      Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1956: Jun 21, 2024 09:58:49 am
      Is there a possibility that Trent sees himself as a CM now and could maybe be a bit of a problem for Slot?

      I'm just wondering how much of this comes from the player, how much from Jürgen and Linders as it seems to be trying to find a solution when it wasn't an issue.
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      Reply #1957: Jun 21, 2024 10:10:43 am
      Trent has said on a few occasions his desire to play in midfield and that he sees himself more as a midfielder. He'll present a problem for Slot, Slot is all about high energy....Trent is one of the most static players we have in the squad. Bradley has more energy in his pinky finger.

      If he's moved back to RB, we need a specialist in the mould of Hendo that can cover, sense the awareness before it's about to happen and put in the graft to do the dirty work because teams will see the space and leave him exposed over and over when he's caught on the half way line jogging back into position. No one needs reminding how bad he was in the 6 months before the inverted role came about.
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      Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1958: Jun 21, 2024 10:26:37 am
      Is there a possibility that Trent sees himself as a CM now and could maybe be a bit of a problem for Slot?

      I'm just wondering how much of this comes from the player, how much from Jürgen and Linders as it seems to be trying to find a solution when it wasn't an issue.

      If the system is going to be hybrid 433 - 343 of some variant then Trent should stay as RB and invert to CM alongside Endo/Bajcetic.
      I really hope this square pegs in round holes coaching as applied by England shows that CM is not Trent's position.
      He's getting a lot of sh*t for it now as Southgate gets his scapegoat, but the reality is England are trying to fit far too many 10s
      into their team and sacrificing width and directness as a consequence.

      It's mad that Mainoo has been brought, who should be starting in midfield with Rice and Bellingham,
      and yet he didn't even come on as a sub when Trent was taken off.

      There is no balance in the team that played yesterday and that's all on the coaching staff.
      A waste of a potential golden generation.

      And without getting into Pickford long balling it every time when the midfield wanted the ball into feet.

                                  Ramsdale

      Trent         Gomez                Stones              Trippier

                                   Mainoo         
                 Bellingham                 Rice     

      Saka                      Kane                             Gordon



      That's the best "team" instead of shoe horning individuals in.

      The issue then is you have Foden and Palmer sitting on the bench.
      So they'll get put into the team at the expense of width and the midfield balance.
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      Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1959: Jun 21, 2024 10:32:27 am
      If the system is going to be hybrid 433 - 343 of some variant then Trent should stay as RB and invert to CM alongside Endo/Bajcetic.
      I really hope this square pegs in round holes coaching as applied by England shows that CM is not Trent's position.
      He's getting a lot of sh*t for it now as Southgate gets his scapegoat, but the reality is England are trying to fit far too many 10s
      into their team and sacrificing width and directness as a consequence.

      It's mad that Mainoo has been brought, who should be starting in midfield with Rice and Bellingham,
      and yet he didn't even come on as a sub when Trent was taken off.

      There is no balance in the team that played yesterday and that's all on the coaching staff.
      A waste of a potential golden generation.

      And without getting into Pickford long balling it every time when the midfield wanted the ball into feet.

                                  Ramsdale

      Trent         Gomez                Stones              Trippier

                                   Mainoo         
                 Bellingham                 Rice     

      Saka                      Kane                             Gordon



      That's the best "team" instead of shoe horning individuals in.

      The issue then is you have Foden and Palmer sitting on the bench.
      So they'll get put into the team at the expense of width and the midfield balance.

      Totally forgot about Mainoo and yep he should start with Rice and Bellingham.

      Yiurtside ain't a million miles away from mine and again I agree on Pickford but Ramsdsle is just as over rated for me so I'd stick with Pickford's experience.
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      Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1960: Jun 21, 2024 10:39:37 am
      Is there a possibility that Trent sees himself as a CM now and could maybe be a bit of a problem for Slot?

      I'm just wondering how much of this comes from the player, how much from Jürgen and Linders as it seems to be trying to find a solution when it wasn't an issue.
      I think he needs a wake up call, I don’t care what anyone says as an excuse on here

      I’ve heard it all

      “He is big boned so is hard for him to press as much”

      “He doesn’t need to defend well if he creates so much”

      “He’s being asked to be out of position to improve our attack to sacrifice defence “

      It’s nothing to do with that but his own attitude, if the guy has the defensive ability of work rate of walker, he would be the best rb perhaps in the history of the game

      The guy is too ozil like, if someone can get that work rate and defensive attitude into him, then he is the best

      We have to tie him down though as I do wonder if Madrid come calling, what he will do

      Hopefully this shows everyone why he isn’t a cm
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      Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1961: Jun 21, 2024 02:59:18 pm
      Is there a possibility that Trent sees himself as a CM now and could maybe be a bit of a problem for Slot?

      I'm just wondering how much of this comes from the player, how much from Jürgen and Linders as it seems to be trying to find a solution when it wasn't an issue.

      I think this is the case Si, I’m of the opinion ( and that’s all it is ) he prefers the midfield roles rather than the Rb back now. It obviously could become an issue if 🦥 wants him back at RB, always a chance they might/may agree on a hybrid role if/when needed.
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      Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1962: Jun 21, 2024 04:23:54 pm
      I'm with Lallana, just assume none of these guys play anymore. I don't give af about England (or the US for that matter). Only Liverpool for me.

      Trent sucked today, plain and simple. But so did everyone else not named Guyhe and Walker. He's also being thrown to the wolves. Hard position to be put in,  and Rice was just as bad. Even Jude looked off

      Still wish his performances inspired more. Very listless

      So you admit everyone was sh*t..how the hell is Trent supposed to inspire when everyone around him is sh*t?

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      Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1963: Jun 21, 2024 04:27:32 pm
      I think Trent is a RB, RWB and not a midfielder. A bit of stepping in from time to time is fine when appropriate but he is not IMO cut out ot be a MF as he is much more suited to coming onto the ball in space than in tighter areas with more players surrounding him
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      Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1964: Jun 21, 2024 05:20:05 pm
      Tbf I'd like to see Trent in midfield under a competent coach, not that waist coat wearing useless pr**k.
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      Reply #1965: Jun 22, 2024 05:26:39 am
      Tbf I'd like to see Trent in midfield under a competent coach, not that waist coat wearing useless pr**k.

      I really think TAA needs a kick in the ass. He has become a bit too confident and not enough hard-working. Too much hype around him. He's definitely a generational talent, but it's not enough, he needs to work hard. Pogba was in the same category but he needed to keep his head down and work his ass off, he did not and now his career is probably over and it was on a decline for quite some time while he should be at his peak.

      I believe that TAA can still improve if pushed by the coach. Hopefully Slot can do that.
      He can be a wonderful RB, and revolutionize the roal, be the Dani Alves of our generation but he needs to go back to basics, defend well and then the rest is bonus.
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      Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1966: Jun 22, 2024 06:58:09 am
      Is there a possibility that Trent sees himself as a CM now and could maybe be a bit of a problem for Slot?

      Doesn’t make a blind bit of difference what Trent sees himself as.

      Slot is the manager and his decision is final. If he sees Trent as a right back then Trent plays there. If Trent doesn’t like that and throws a strop then he doesn’t play.
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      Reply #1967: Jun 22, 2024 07:37:16 am
      Doesn’t make a blind bit of difference what Trent sees himself as.

      Slot is the manager and his decision is final. If he sees Trent as a right back then Trent plays there. If Trent doesn’t like that and throws a strop then he doesn’t play.

      Agree 100% mate.

      If it was me I'd be telling him that he's a RB, we're going to play a system to allow him still to attack, and if he didn't like that then you to him. Decision he'd have to make
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      Reply #1968: Jun 22, 2024 11:47:09 am
      Agree 100% mate.

      If it was me I'd be telling him that he's a RB, we're going to play a system to allow him still to attack, and if he didn't like that then you to him. Decision he'd have to make

      Agree 100% with both.......but also the proviso that you need to tune in defensively. You CAN defend, you just can't always be arsed.
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      Reply #1969: Jun 23, 2024 08:48:38 am
      The CM experiment with England isn't exactly enhancing the idea that Trent can be/is a full-time midfielder. Of course , he is being sold up the river by this England set up who are playing like they did under Roy Hodgson. Asking Trent to play as a tradiitonal DM in a team that sits back, doesn't press, and is passive/static was never going to work. Southgate has done a pretty decent job with England over the years but he seems to have lost the plot now.

      I suspect he will continue to play in an inverted full-back (under Slot) role myself. He's a terrific player and I hope the club tie him down to a contract ASAP. I think the criticism he gets from LFC fans is OTT myself. He now seems to be a player who polarizes support. 
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      Reply #1970: Jun 23, 2024 10:34:23 am
      The CM experiment with England isn't exactly enhancing the idea that Trent can be/is a full-time midfielder. Of course , he is being sold up the river by this England set up who are playing like they did under Roy Hodgson. Asking Trent to play as a tradiitonal DM in a team that sits back, doesn't press, and is passive/static was never going to work. Southgate has done a pretty decent job with England over the years but he seems to have lost the plot now.

      I suspect he will continue to play in an inverted full-back (under Slot) role myself. He's a terrific player and I hope the club tie him down to a contract ASAP. I think the criticism he gets from LFC fans is OTT myself. He now seems to be a player who polarizes support.

      He’s world class and it would be madness not to go all out to tie him down to a very long term contract!
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      Reply #1971: Jun 27, 2024 04:20:13 pm
      Trent in midfield. For England. Could do a job but not with Kane up top. Needs the front 3 sitting on the shoulder, looking for the run. Trent is on the look out for that ball into space. It's his first instinct, even as full back his eyes are on stalks looking for that run.

      Can read it almost before it happens but England just don't do that. Kane hasn't got the legs and he was always a pred striker. Foden isn't that quick off the mark and with City the next chance is never to far away. So it's not easy for Trent to make an impact with England. Southgate will stick with Kane,Foden and Saka and Trent will probably be on the bench.
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      Reply #1972: Jun 28, 2024 11:16:03 pm
      Trent, defensively, is a burden to the team.  I remember the RCB or RM will have to defend closer to Trent when he is the RB in many games last season.  However, Klopp definitely saw his passing capability outweighs the subpar defending ability. 
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      Reply #1973: Jun 29, 2024 11:25:38 am
      Why do people regurgitate media false statements about Trent. When Trent is near the opposition corner flag setting up strikers how the F**k can he then defend as a right back Jürgen picked everytime he was available and just check out our defensive record over the past 5 or 6 years. With him and Robbo flying down the wings we are at our best.
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      Reply #1974: Jun 30, 2024 12:20:24 pm
      Trent will come back from England regardless of how far they go pretty lost I reckon.

      Was the scapegoat for the group stages and I'm not sure his face fits in that particular set up.

      Hope he comes into the coming season motivated to silence any doubters where ever on the field he's asked to play.
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      Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1975: Jun 30, 2024 02:31:26 pm
      Trent will come back from England regardless of how far they go pretty lost I reckon.

      Was the scapegoat for the group stages and I'm not sure his face fits in that particular set up.

      Hope he comes into the coming season motivated to silence any doubters where ever on the field he's asked to play.

      I'm not too sure how much he's phased mentally, wasn't he snubbed a place at the 2018 world cup squad? Didn't seem to affect him, at least it wasn't showing on the pitch and played an incredible few years. Plus the last few years us fans have given him a lot of stick, it's part and parcel of football.

      He was sat next to Jude giving an interview after the Denmark game, seemed relaxed and confident in the way he spoke.

      Maybe a few days holiday after the Euro's to settle his mind might do him some good.
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      Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1976: Jun 30, 2024 07:43:18 pm
      If Trent made the mistakes walker made today, he would have been destroyed

      Gareth is such a poor manager not picking him, he is better at this stage of walkers career

      As Neville said it’s illegal and a mis
      Use
      Of talent

      How he stayed on was beyond me, walker couldn’t defend well or pass
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      Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1977: Jun 30, 2024 08:52:34 pm
      If Trent made the mistakes walker made today, he would have been destroyed

      Gareth is such a poor manager not picking him, he is better at this stage of walkers career

      As Neville said it’s illegal and a mis
      Use
      Of talent

      How he stayed on was beyond me, walker couldn’t defend well or pass


      Why are you quoting Neville? He spent weeks telling us all how sh*t Trent is and that a team can never with a major tournament with him in the team.

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