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      Trent Alexander-Arnold Player Thread (D)

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      Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold Player Thread (D)
      Reply #2231: Sep 24, 2024 06:53:49 pm
      Why don’t you read what Trent has said ?

      He talked about winning trophies- that means leagues and champions league

      Why is it shallow a player wants their club
      To invest to achieve that goal ?

      Some players don’t play for money solely as they get a lot everywhere they go. Some play to win trophies as the medals are there for life

      I think you claimed earlier Trent already signed whilst others told you that’s rubbish

      The best players want to be competitive at the top to win, I told you before and I still expect you to keep making excuses but the summer we had had set us back for years, the worst in a long long time.

      All 3 will leave most likely, it’s cost cutting, that’s what we are doing for whatever reason. Time to accept reality instead of trying to twist what is actually happening because of your own fetish

      Bradley will be our right back next season

      Bellingham has tapped Trent up and he’s gone. We don’t have ambitions to compete to win, that’s obvious from our window, it won’t keep players like Trent who want to be winners.

      Yes I did read what he said

      When did I say he was shallow for wanting the club to achieve their goal ?


      There is no reason why he can’t win leagues and CL at Liverpool just as he already has done

      We are being competitive at the top and will continue to be so

      Just because people like want to constantly dismiss the clubs chances of winning trophies doesn’t mean it’s a fact

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      Reply #2232: Sep 24, 2024 06:59:20 pm
      Excellent input

      Money will never be the sole reason

      Do you think he would jump to Saudi if offered ÂŁ500k a week
      no but combine the biggest club in the world with the money and you get one chance in life?
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      Reply #2233: Sep 24, 2024 07:02:33 pm
      I’m not saying it’s solely down to signings, but we didn’t exactly show much ambition did we? VVD was literally saying I want to see players come in. Obviously we only know so much, but Trent could be thinking…. Two of our outstanding players could be gone in the summer. How are we replacing them? Of course behind the scenes everyone could be completely calm and this time next year they’re all still here and have extended.
      I agree that he looks happy, and I like what slot said about him today. Basically he’s brilliant, but he can become exceptional. I still think he’ll extend, would be great to hear it soon.

      Why do people only see ambition in regards “spending money”

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      Reply #2234: Sep 24, 2024 07:03:15 pm
      no but combine the biggest club in the world with the money and you get one chance in life?

      So it’s not all about money then

      And as scouser he is already at tbe biggest club in the world
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      Reply #2235: Sep 24, 2024 07:07:16 pm
      There is a lot of drama, negativity and exaggeration on this thread, similar to a lot of other threads unfortunately.
      Suddenly the possibility of losing Trent on a free has become a massive crisis for the club. Scroll back to pages 60-65 on this thread and lots of people were posting that he's terrible, demanding that he is benched, never to play for the club again. Now he's a ÂŁ100m Rolls Royce player.

      I hope Trent signs a new deal and stays with the club for the foreseeable future. He's a quality player, a Liverpool fan and future captain. If he leaves I'll be annoyed and disappointed but we will move on. In the modern game there is always a risk that a player will leave for free. Obviously, the club need to try to plan ahead so these situations don't occur often but sometimes it can't be avoided.

      We are a well run club with a very good squad but maybe Trent wants to play for Madrid. He will be missed but he's not irreplaceable, no one is.
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      Reply #2236: Sep 24, 2024 07:10:15 pm
      We don't play 442 ... we play 433 or on occasion 4231.

      Our right back isn't very good. How about we go and buy a world class one instead of sticking a square peg in a round hole and even then need a right back. Just buy a better one.

      Amazing
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      Reply #2237: Sep 24, 2024 07:15:21 pm
      There is a lot of drama, negativity and exaggeration on this thread, similar to a lot of other threads unfortunately.
      Suddenly the possibility of losing Trent on a free has become a massive crisis for the club. Scroll back to pages 60-65 on this thread and lots of people were posting that he's terrible, demanding that he is benched, never to play for the club again. Now he's a ÂŁ100m Rolls Royce player.

      I hope Trent signs a new deal and stays with the club for the foreseeable future. He's a quality player, a Liverpool fan and future captain. If he leaves I'll be annoyed and disappointed but we will move on. In the modern game there is always a risk that a player will leave for free. Obviously, the club need to try to plan ahead so these situations don't occur often but sometimes it can't be avoided.

      We are a well run club with a very good squad but maybe Trent wants to play for Madrid. He will be missed but he's not irreplaceable, no one is.

      Had a Quick Look back and you are spot on , it’s staggering how some were going at him
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      Reply #2238: Sep 24, 2024 07:15:29 pm
      So it’s not all about money then

      And as scouser he is already at tbe biggest club in the world
      [if he goes there I'd say on a free, he gets maybe 200k a week more, a lot bigger chance of big trophies, sunny days, playing with Mbappe, Bellingham etc., it's looking grim
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      Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold Player Thread (D)
      Reply #2239: Sep 24, 2024 07:17:03 pm
      So it’s not all about money then

      And as scouser he is already at tbe biggest club in the world
      [if he goes there I'd say on a free, he gets maybe 200k a week more, a lot bigger chance of big trophies, sunny days, playing with Mbappe, Bellingham etc., it's looking grim

      It’s still not Liverpool
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      Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold Player Thread (D)
      Reply #2240: Sep 24, 2024 07:24:32 pm
      Yes I did read what he said

      When did I say he was shallow for wanting the club to achieve their goal ?


      There is no reason why he can’t win leagues and CL at Liverpool just as he already has done

      We are being competitive at the top and will continue to be so

      Just because people like want to constantly dismiss the clubs chances of winning trophies doesn’t mean it’s a fact



      At some point, you need to start listening to the players. They have spoken out many times and you should dismiss them

      You don’t win the best trophies with how we behaved in the window and it’s not been lost on players like vvd and Trent

      Some have made direct comments to get the needle moving and others indirect

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      Reply #2241: Sep 24, 2024 07:27:44 pm
      At some point, you need to start listening to the players. They have spoken out many times and you should dismiss them

      You don’t win the best trophies with how we behaved in the window and it’s not been lost on players like vvd and Trent

      Some have made direct comments to get the needle moving and others indirect

      Why don’t we win the best trophies 🤷‍♂️

      How is you think we have “behaved”

      I suspect the players right now are enjoying the fact we are challenging right now and showing very good form

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      Reply #2242: Sep 24, 2024 07:36:39 pm
      Why do people only see ambition in regards “spending money”



      are you serious? look at what the game is now. look at how obsessed everyone is by transfers. to compete with and ultimately get ahead of city, we spent huge on 2 players who've been incredible for us. in what other way do you see ambition?
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      Reply #2243: Sep 24, 2024 07:48:55 pm
      are you serious? look at what the game is now. look at how obsessed everyone is by transfers. to compete with and ultimately get ahead of city, we spent huge on 2 players who've been incredible for us. in what other way do you see ambition?

      Yes people “obsessed” with transfers and unable to see a bigger picture

      Ambition is not just about how much money is spent

      The club constantly gets accused of a “lack of ambition” because they don’t spend as much as others

      It wasn’t just two players that won us the title - and we have spent big since then as well



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      Reply #2244: Sep 24, 2024 07:56:43 pm
      Yes people “obsessed” with transfers and unable to see a bigger picture

      Ambition is not just about how much money is spent

      The club constantly gets accused of a “lack of ambition” because they don’t spend as much as others

      It wasn’t just two players that won us the title - and we have spent big since then as well





      so what is ambition? i would say real madrid have it. we are the best and we will remain the best. casemiro is gone, kroos is gone, modric is old. in come bellingham, Tchouameni and Camavinga. all young all brilliant. same with rodrygo vinicius mbappe and the kid from brazil endrick. sounds like Davies is coming from Bayern next summer. whoever you are, no matter how much you love liverpool,  the chance to go and play with that, is pretty damn appealing. you're as close to guaranteed success as you can be.  and look at us, 2 legendary footballers are in their 30's and potentially leaving for nothing in the summer. we might be able to spend well, recruit well, and replace them. they might extend their contracts. nobody knows. the club might not know. tbh trent is right to wait.
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      Reply #2245: Sep 24, 2024 07:58:13 pm
      Trent's latest comments to the media are hardly proclamations indicating a desire to stay. I'd say the mood music suggests he fancies a change of scene.
      There is a very subtle clue in his "winning trophies" comment....it's hinting he sees the current Liverpool set up as a long term work in progress, and as an elite sportsman he hasn't got time to waste and wants guaranteed success now. My advice would be to get his head down and work hard to make that success here and now.

       
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      Reply #2246: Sep 24, 2024 08:03:44 pm
      Trent's latest comments to the media are hardly proclamations indicating a desire to stay. I'd say the mood music suggests he fancies a change of scene.
      There is a very subtle clue in his "winning trophies" comment....it's hinting he sees the current Liverpool set up as a long term work in progress, and as an elite sportsman he hasn't got time to waste and wants guaranteed success now. My advice would be to get his head down and work hard to make that success here and now.

       

      “I have always said I want to captain the club. That is a goal of mine, whether that happens is out of my hands,”

      He also said this didn't he?

      I think it's a hard one to call either way but I think if a contract was put in front of him and he was assured of the armband in the next season or so he'd want to cement his legacy with us.
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      Reply #2247: Sep 24, 2024 08:09:55 pm
      so what is ambition? i would say real madrid have it. we are the best and we will remain the best. casemiro is gone, kroos is gone, modric is old. in come bellingham, Tchouameni and Camavinga. all young all brilliant. same with rodrygo vinicius mbappe and the kid from brazil endrick. sounds like Davies is coming from Bayern next summer. whoever you are, no matter how much you love liverpool,  the chance to go and play with that, is pretty damn appealing. you're as close to guaranteed success as you can be.  and look at us, 2 legendary footballers are in their 30's and potentially leaving for nothing in the summer. we might be able to spend well, recruit well, and replace them. they might extend their contracts. nobody knows. the club might not know. tbh trent is right to wait.

      If he wants to play for Madrid then he leaves , that’s his choice , if he wants to captain the club as he has said then he stays

      At some stage players will leave - and that includes Mo and VVD , as a club we will move on from that and look to improve and build , TAA will have a choice - does he want to be part of that or not

      Over the last 40 years the club have lost big players and we have moved on , just as we will when VVD and Mo finally leave , they aren’t going to go on forever just as Gerrard didn’t in the past and before that Barnes etc etc etc

      It’s key for us to have that succession planning in place and also have the trust of the fans that the club will be looking to look at the future

      We need to stop look at every in the negative , the club is actually in a very good place right now to build the next legacy under Slot , there are a lot of young very talented players and even more in the academy with the club constantly looking to bring more through

      We wont ever be like Madrid, no other club is these days , but by being smart there is no reason why we won’t be challenging for the big trophies for years to come

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      Reply #2248: Sep 24, 2024 08:10:10 pm
      Why don’t we win the best trophies 🤷‍♂️

      How is you think we have “behaved”

      I suspect the players right now are enjoying the fact we are challenging right now and showing very good form



      Same could have been said at the same stage last season except the wheels fell off when it mattered because we didn't have enough strength in depth of the squad. Previous season the same squad was out of sorts as well.
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      Reply #2249: Sep 24, 2024 08:15:59 pm
      Same could have been said at the same stage last season except the wheels fell off when it mattered because we didn't have enough strength in depth of the squad. Previous season the same squad was out of sorts as well.

      Or we could go through the season without the same level of injuries due to a change in tactics 🤷‍♂️ and other teams could suffer a higher level of injuries than they have previously
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      Reply #2250: Sep 24, 2024 08:19:00 pm
      “I have always said I want to captain the club. That is a goal of mine, whether that happens is out of my hands,”

      He also said this didn't he?

      I think it's a hard one to call either way but I think if a contract was put in front of him and he was assured of the armband in the next season or so he'd want to cement his legacy with us.
      I'd say it's frankly impossible that he won't be offered a new deal, though I imagine It will have to be some deal to convince him to stay. If it's enough ÂŁ and the team are doing well he'll likely stay...but its' going to be mega mega bucks to keep him.
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      Reply #2251: Sep 24, 2024 08:40:36 pm
      It will be big money because the wage for a player of Trent's calibre at his age would be about as high as you could expect to find for any full back in the world. His contract is also nearly up and you don't get cut price deals at this point.

       Maybe he wants his Gerrard moment of flirting with the possibility of leaving just to underline his desire to win the biggest trophies, whilst hoping one day to do so as captain and to become a bona fide legend for the rest of his days.
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      Reply #2252: Sep 24, 2024 08:44:11 pm
      If he wants to play for Madrid then he leaves , that’s his choice , if he wants to captain the club as he has said then he stays

      At some stage players will leave - and that includes Mo and VVD , as a club we will move on from that and look to improve and build , TAA will have a choice - does he want to be part of that or not

      Over the last 40 years the club have lost big players and we have moved on , just as we will when VVD and Mo finally leave , they aren’t going to go on forever just as Gerrard didn’t in the past and before that Barnes etc etc etc

      It’s key for us to have that succession planning in place and also have the trust of the fans that the club will be looking to look at the future

      We need to stop look at every in the negative , the club is actually in a very good place right now to build the next legacy under Slot , there are a lot of young very talented players and even more in the academy with the club constantly looking to bring more through

      We wont ever be like Madrid, no other club is these days , but by being smart there is no reason why we won’t be challenging for the big trophies for years to come



      yeah yeah i've seen them come and go, no player is bigger than the club..... there's no other way to say it than, if he goes for free its bad for us. no other way of looking at it.

      every time this is discussed, whether by ex players, journalists etc.... they say the same thing, this is a bad situation to be in, and a totally weird one. 3 key players in their final year. it's not good. amateurish tbh
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      Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold Player Thread (D)
      Reply #2253: Sep 24, 2024 08:44:12 pm
      I'd say it's frankly impossible that he won't be offered a new deal, though I imagine It will have to be some deal to convince him to stay. If it's enough ÂŁ and the team are doing well he'll likely stay...but its' going to be mega mega bucks to keep him.

      I'd say it'll have to be highest paid player at the club.

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