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      Trent Alexander-Arnold Player Thread

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      Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold Player Thread
      Reply #800: Mar 19, 2021 09:18:31 am
      Astonishing decision really.

      Been poor most of the season but starting to pick it up again in recent weeks.

      Hope he uses it as extra motivation to push on.
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      Reply #801: Mar 19, 2021 11:53:05 am
      Astonishing decision really.

      Been poor most of the season but starting to pick it up again in recent weeks.

      Hope he uses it as extra motivation to push on.

      He's a winner and this is the kind of thing which will make him stronger, prove the doubters wrong.
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      Reply #802: Mar 19, 2021 02:10:54 pm
      Lads had a big knock today missing out on the England team.

      I know most here will be happy about it but from his personal point of view that will be tough to take.

      I think he's been the victim of circumstances this season personally, like most of our team.

      He needs to remember the Carra mantra

      "F**k it, it's only England"
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      Reply #803: Apr 03, 2021 09:36:49 am
      He needs to remember the Carra mantra

      "F**k it, it's only England"

      Haha well I think him and Curtis take a bit more stock by it than Carra, though if they continue to treat him like they are doing he might start thinking f**k them.

      Klopp came out yesterday in defence of him.

      Never got the impression that Southgate fully trusts Trent even when we were winning leagues and in champions league finals he chose Trippier and Walker over him.

      A drop off in our results and I think he's took the opportunity to drop him entirely.

      Basically I'm not sure Trent will suit a cautious manager. Jürgen on the other hand likes his full backs high and wide in this system.
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      Reply #804: Apr 03, 2021 11:37:30 am
      Trent doesn’t fit England’s boring as f**k ways anyway, probably why, he’d probably take a team of eleven CBs and defensive midfielders if he could.
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      Reply #805: Apr 04, 2021 08:11:17 am
      Lets have it right, he has been the victim of circumstances this season. Losing our protective midfielders has allowed teams to pick him apart defensively in ways teams never could or will again.

      Having Fab and Hendo at the back and Thiago as our deepest midfielder was never going to work, the cogs in the machine were taken away and placed in the wrong places and the whole thing broke down.

      Finally, we have a centre half partnership that is beginning to blossom, we have Fabinho putting out fires behind the full backs. Hes also starting counter attacks from a much higher position than we ever could for most of this season. Trent is now freed to impact the games and because he and Robbo are not longer our only mode of attack and he is a real threat to teams once again.

      He alongside the introduction of Jota and the work Fab was doing behind him, won us that game yesterday.

      Simply put if you get the structure around him right, he's the best in the business in his role. This applies for a lot of our players.
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      Reply #806: Apr 04, 2021 03:11:47 pm
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      Reply #807: Apr 05, 2021 12:36:21 am
      I'm pretty damn sure he didn't say this...hahhaha

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      Reply #808: Apr 06, 2021 10:04:52 pm
      Said it a long time ago, hes not a defender. This sh*te about the England squad Jesus

      Hes one of the most gifted footballers out there...BUT HE CANNOT DEFEND

      Move him to midfield
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      Reply #809: Apr 06, 2021 10:12:52 pm
      Said it a long time ago, hes not a defender. This sh*te about the England squad Jesus

      Hes one of the most gifted footballers out there...BUT HE CANNOT DEFEND

      Move him to midfield


      Yet what an outstanding covering tackle he made to deny them a clear shot on goal and then the tackle on Ascenio when it looked a golden chance


      TAA was isolated 2 against 1 many times because Mo doesn’t track back and Phillips hasn’t got any pace to cover
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      Reply #810: Apr 06, 2021 10:19:57 pm

      Yet what an outstanding covering tackle he made to deny them a clear shot on goal and then the tackle on Ascenio when it looked a golden chance


      TAA was isolated 2 against 1 many times because Mo doesn’t track back and Phillips hasn’t got any pace to cover

      Please in the 12th minute Mendy went by him like he was stuck to the ground, nothing to do with anyone else. Whose fault was his header for the 2nd?

      Dont make excuses for him
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      Reply #811: Apr 06, 2021 10:57:22 pm
      Please in the 12th minute Mendy went by him like he was stuck to the ground, nothing to do with anyone else. Whose fault was his header for the 2nd?

      Dont make excuses for him

      Excuses? just a few posts up someone is saying he's been a victim  :lmao:

      Trent's defensive performance in that first half is not acceptable and has singlehandedly cost us multiple goals this year from his individual errors at the back. We need better from him.
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      Reply #812: Apr 06, 2021 11:01:36 pm
      Excuses? just a few posts up someone is saying he's been a victim  :lmao:

      Trent's defensive performance in that first half is not acceptable and has singlehandedly cost us multiple goals this year from his individual errors at the back. We need better from him.

      Trent really gets under my skin because its so f**king obvious the natural ability he has, he can and still might be one of the best players the game sees this decade thats why it pisses me right off to see some of the things he does

      Was pure flat footed for the 3rd, dont think he even knew Vinicus ad moved to that area
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      Reply #813: Apr 06, 2021 11:05:28 pm
      Trent really gets under my skin because its so f**king obvious the natural ability he has, he can and still might be one of the best players the game sees this decade thats why it pisses me right off to see some of the things he does

      Was pure flat footed for the 3rd, dont think he even knew Vinicus ad moved to that area

      Yep just seen that goal again thought Phillps was flat footed but really it was Trent who should have passed him on or gone with him sadly did Neither and Nat didn't react
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      Reply #814: Apr 06, 2021 11:18:40 pm
      Trent really gets under my skin because its so f**king obvious the natural ability he has, he can and still might be one of the best players the game sees this decade thats why it pisses me right off to see some of the things he does

      Was pure flat footed for the 3rd, dont think he even knew Vinicus ad moved to that area

      I think the issue is he doesn't really have that much natural ability in the defensive side of his game. It's certainly an aspect I thought would have got a bit better by now but unfortunately hasn't and as a result we've got teams targeting us down that side week in, week out. No doubt that the lack of defensive stability alongside him hasn't helped though.

      I'd want to see how he does when we have the injured lads back next season before thinking about changing his position but it's certainly a debate that's more warranted now than it was 12 months ago.
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      Reply #815: Apr 06, 2021 11:21:55 pm
      Trent really gets under my skin because its so f**king obvious the natural ability he has, he can and still might be one of the best players the game sees this decade thats why it pisses me right off to see some of the things he does

      Was pure flat footed for the 3rd, dont think he even knew Vinicus ad moved to that area

      He is a world class talent going forward, but he has never been great defending. I think this season he has regressed defensively and we have gotten burned big time from it. He's got plenty of time ahead of him to get better at only 22yo, but maybe his long-term future just isn't at RB.

      In big games like the CL you cannot have championship level defending if you expect to win.
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      Reply #816: Apr 06, 2021 11:25:35 pm
      I think the issue is he doesn't really have that much natural ability in the defensive side of his game. It's certainly an aspect I thought would have got a bit better by now but unfortunately hasn't and as a result we've got teams targeting us down that side week in, week out. No doubt that the lack of defensive stability alongside him hasn't helped though.

      I'd want to see how he does when we have the injured lads back next season before thinking about changing his position but it's certainly a debate that's more warranted now than it was 12 months ago.


      To me, ge has no natural ability defending at all. But my God can he dictate the ball So why the f**k impose expectation of defending on him?

      Him in a midfield role is beyond question for me. I know, who the f**k am I. But he would be a phenom in the midfield for us. And might have picked up enough from his spell as a right back to help out whoever plays there.

      People going mad over Harvey Barnes and the likes, they have not got a patch on Trent but they are not asked to defend
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      Reply #817: Apr 07, 2021 02:02:27 am
      He is a world class talent going forward, but he has never been great defending. I think this season he has regressed defensively and we have gotten burned big time from it. He's got plenty of time ahead of him to get better at only 22yo, but maybe his long-term future just isn't at RB.

      In big games like the CL you cannot have championship level defending if you expect to win.

      He benefits from cover from Gomez/Matip and Virg herding everyone.

      It’s no wonder his defensive game is lacking a bit now that he’s got zero cover.
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      Reply #818: Apr 07, 2021 02:09:38 am
      He benefits from cover from Gomez/Matip and Virg herding everyone.

      It’s no wonder his defensive game is lacking a bit now that he’s got zero cover.

      Of course he benefits from having Matip/Joe/Virgil, but his defensive form is down more than just a bit. Some of his mistakes you wouldn’t expect from an academy player, and that’s on Trent and no one else.
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      Reply #819: Apr 07, 2021 10:48:00 am
      It’s bad enough reading the media and Engerland fans rip him to shreds let alone his own fans
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      Reply #820: Apr 07, 2021 10:59:46 am
      He had a sh*t half. All the more frustrating when you consider how well he CAN sweep and defend like a classic defensive fb......he'll learn, he's top class but that channel is soft this season.
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      Reply #821: Apr 07, 2021 11:23:42 am
      Once everyone is back and fit and we've hopefully had more recruiting I wonder if it’s time to try something new and give him and Robbo less defensive responsibilities? Maybe a three at the back system? I look at all of our full backs and I don’t think any of them have defence as a strong suit, but let them free forward and they are relentless and hard to control, it’s becomes a defence in itself with the other team too scared to commit with them being more attacking.
      Have them breaking assist records again and everyone will soon change their fickle minds.

                      Alisson
           Gomez - Dijk - Kabak
      Trent - Fabinho - Hendo - Robbo
           Salah  -  Jota  -  Mane

      I don’t know who’s coming and going so that’s just a team of who I assume will be here.
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      Reply #822: Apr 07, 2021 02:03:31 pm
      He had a sh*t half. All the more frustrating when you consider how well he CAN sweep and defend like a classic defensive fb......he'll learn, he's top class but that channel is soft this season.

      He is better defensively than he's shown this season, where some of his mistakes are just head scratchers. Yesterday's 2nd goal is so easy to avoid. He had time and space and could have easily just headed the ball out of play for a throw in and allow everyone to get back. Did he not see there was a Real player making a run? His lack of awareness has been an issue.
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      Reply #823: Apr 08, 2021 11:45:32 pm
      He is better defensively than he's shown this season, where some of his mistakes are just head scratchers. Yesterday's 2nd goal is so easy to avoid. He had time and space and could have easily just headed the ball out of play for a throw in and allow everyone to get back. Did he not see there was a Real player making a run? His lack of awareness has been an issue.

      100% agree......actually I'm not that arsed about the 2nd......that's gonna happen. 1st is a bigger concern for me - he just isn't thinking defensive lines......
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      Reply #824: Apr 10, 2021 05:08:04 pm
      Massive goal today to beat Villa, well done Trent !!!

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