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      Frankly, Mr Shankly
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      Reply #25: Nov 09, 2015 02:34:23 pm
      wel well well it appears our Russian frienda are about to be kicked out of international athletics for doping and fraud. Seems they still think this is the 1980's.

      Seb Coe's got his work cut out.
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      Reply #26: Nov 09, 2015 04:13:36 pm

      he doesnt want them band so he can f**k off for a start.1400 drug samples lost. The World Cup computers with all the bungs on them lost why do we put up with this sh*t from Russia. Individuals will always cheat but when the state sponsors it they should be banned from every sport on the globe
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      Reply #27: Aug 01, 2017 11:18:37 pm
      Just finished watching I Am Bolt on the iplayer.

      True great and one of my favourite sportsmen ever.
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      Reply #28: Aug 02, 2017 02:59:59 am
      Just finished watching I Am Bolt on the iplayer.

      True great and one of my favourite sportsmen ever.

      Might give that a watch, seen probably the last half hour of that when it was on BBC 1 and enjoyed that so will definitely have to watch the programme in full.

      Definitely goes up there as one of the greatest sprinters of all time.
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      Reply #29: Aug 02, 2017 12:04:02 pm
      Might give that a watch, seen probably the last half hour of that when it was on BBC 1 and enjoyed that so will definitely have to watch the programme in full.

      Definitely goes up there as one of the greatest sprinters of all time.

      It was really good.

      You could tell as the programme went on the underlying tension with the likes of Gatlin and other sprinters who failed drugs tests.
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      Reply #30: Aug 04, 2017 09:56:14 pm
      Brilliant 10k metres final with Mo Farah showing why he is the best.

      Day one of the World Champs and we've had a great race already.
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      Reply #31: Aug 04, 2017 10:02:37 pm
      Brilliant 10k metres final with Mo Farah showing why he is the best.

      Day one of the World Champs and we've had a great race already.

      Fantastic race and Mo really had his work cut out there.

      Great start the tie Championships.
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      Reply #32: Aug 04, 2017 10:22:44 pm
      Brilliant 10k metres final with Mo Farah showing why he is the best.

      Day one of the World Champs and we've had a great race already.

      Mo said he wasn't as fit as he has been in the past, but class came through as I expected. Absolutely superstar.
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      Reply #33: Aug 04, 2017 10:47:22 pm
      Mo said he wasn't as fit as he has been in the past, but class came through as I expected. Absolutely superstar.

      He is.

      Have to rush home from work tomorrow evening to catch the 100M final.

      Forgot I was working to 8.
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      Reply #34: Aug 04, 2017 10:54:02 pm
      He is.

      Have to rush home from work tomorrow evening to catch the 100M final.

      Forgot I was working to 8.

      Bolt looked extremely comfortable in the qualifier, hard to see past him imo.
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      Reply #35: Aug 04, 2017 10:58:38 pm
      Bolt looked extremely comfortable in the qualifier, hard to see past him imo.

      I don't think he looked as comfortable as normal mate but expect him to step it up in the semis.
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      Reply #36: Aug 04, 2017 11:02:06 pm
      I don't think he looked as comfortable as normal mate but expect him to step it up in the semis.

      Really? Surprised by that mate, I thought he got a pretty slow start and cruised through. I suppose it's subjective though and I might have been 'expecting' him to look comfortable so saw that.

      We'll see though 4/11 if you fancy 'buying money', not for me that. A friend of mine goes nuts with his athletics betting but there always seems someone at longs odds on (like 1/20) letting him down on his big accumulators. Apparently this year there's more short priced favourites than he's ever witnessed.
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      Reply #37: Aug 05, 2017 11:22:50 pm
      Awful day for the sport with Gatlin getting gold tonight.
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      Reply #38: Aug 05, 2017 11:34:40 pm
      Awful day for the sport with Gatlin getting gold tonight.

      The c**t has no shame
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      Reply #39: Aug 05, 2017 11:57:42 pm
      Awful day for the sport with Gatlin getting gold tonight.

      The boos that rang out around the stadium when the crowd realised who had won couldn't have been worse if they'd walked a paedophile out to gallows in the middle of the field.

      It's a grim result. I mean, is there ANYONE out there who wanted him to win?
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      Reply #40: Aug 06, 2017 12:42:39 pm
      The boos that rang out around the stadium when the crowd realised who had won couldn't have been worse if they'd walked a paedophile out to gallows in the middle of the field.

      It's a grim result. I mean, is there ANYONE out there who wanted him to win?


      Sad isn't it, I don't know if he's drugged up now, but if he's not at this is what he's earned through his own efforts really he should get the plaudits but his past has meant that is impossible and really does throw shame on himself and the sport.

      The worst possible result is the right description, looks like Si was right about Bolt and I was wrong though so fair play to him.
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      Reply #41: Aug 06, 2017 12:52:50 pm
      Sad isn't it, I don't know if he's drugged up now, but if he's not at this is what he's earned through his own efforts really he should get the plaudits but his past has meant that is impossible and really does throw shame on himself and the sport.

      The worst possible result is the right description, looks like Si was right about Bolt and I was wrong though so fair play to him.

      I just didn't think he looked quite right.

      After the heat I said to my missus that he might struggle to win the final but I thought Christian Coleman would be the biggest threat.
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      Reply #42: Aug 08, 2017 10:38:29 pm
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      Reply #43: Aug 09, 2017 06:56:49 am

      Class act although the race itself didn't have much about it.

      Enjoyed the polefault final as well last night.
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      Reply #44: Aug 09, 2017 02:03:17 pm
      Is this article fair? No smoke without fire? Or are people just looking for it - Gatlin fans desperate 'everyone's done it' claim, Bolt the inevitable victim of a sport riddled with doping scandal and innuendo?

      https://medium.com/@tomnew/usain-bolt-lance-armstrong-and-the-duck-test-303b7b891e7e

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      Reply #45: Aug 09, 2017 02:23:44 pm
      The boos that rang out around the stadium when the crowd realised who had won couldn't have been worse if they'd walked a paedophile out to gallows in the middle of the field.

      It's a grim result. I mean, is there ANYONE out there who wanted him to win?


      The sad part is that it overshadowed Coleman's performance.
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      Reply #46: Aug 09, 2017 02:31:06 pm
      Is this article fair? No smoke without fire? Or are people just looking for it - Gatlin fans desperate 'everyone's done it' claim, Bolt the inevitable victim of a sport riddled with doping scandal and innuendo?

      https://medium.com/@tomnew/usain-bolt-lance-armstrong-and-the-duck-test-303b7b891e7e



      I think all of the above (although I'd wager Gatlin doesn't have many "fans" past his family).

      I've honestly never considered that Bolt was cheating...just always assumed that he was an amazingly gifted athlete. I did however wonder how Lance Armstrong was able to win an event like the TDF year after year with so many variables at play each year.

      Could Bolt have been juicing....absolutely... what he was able to do was almost unrealistic and he supposedly did it while not being very focused on training or diet, and I wasn't aware of just how many Jamaicans have been caught cheating. To be close to the Americans is some feat considering how many athletes we have participating in any event.

      Bolt was fun though and other than being a Manc fan, he seems like a good enough dude. So until there's some sort of evidence that he cheated....I'll enjoy the fact that I got to see him run.
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      Reply #47: Aug 09, 2017 02:47:58 pm
      I think all of the above (although I'd wager Gatlin doesn't have many "fans" past his family).

      I've honestly never considered that Bolt was cheating...just always assumed that he was an amazingly gifted athlete. I did however wonder how Lance Armstrong was able to win an event like the TDF year after year with so many variables at play each year.

      Could Bolt have been juicing....absolutely... what he was able to do was almost unrealistic and he supposedly did it while not being very focused on training or diet, and I wasn't aware of just how many Jamaicans have been caught cheating. To be close to the Americans is some feat considering how many athletes we have participating in any event.

      Bolt was fun though and other than being a Manc fan, he seems like a good enough dude. So until there's some sort of evidence that he cheated....I'll enjoy the fact that I got to see him run.

      The majority of the implications are very much 'guilt by association' with particular focus on the less than ethical standards Jamaican athletics has applied itself to although narrowing it down to a focus on Bolt it's hard not to be intrigued by the remarkable performance increases by Bolt between 2007 and 2008. It would be devastating to athletics if it were somehow proved that Bolt had doped in the past, probably impacting the sport a hundred times greater than the Armstrong scandal. But I suppose that is the reality of athletics in that, like road cycling, you can never place that much faith in the winners and you always have to leave a bit of skepticism because of the all too familiar association with doping. Whether it's Chris Froome in road cycling or Bolt in athletics people are naturally always going to hold suspicion.
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      Reply #48: Aug 09, 2017 02:53:53 pm
      The majority of the implications are very much 'guilt by association' with particular focus on the less than ethical standards Jamaican athletics has applied itself to although narrowing it down to a focus on Bolt it's hard not to be intrigued by the remarkable performance increases by Bolt between 2007 and 2008. It would be devastating to athletics if it were somehow proved that Bolt had doped in the past, probably impacting the sport a hundred times greater than the Armstrong scandal. But I suppose that is the reality of athletics in that, like road cycling, you can never place that much faith in the winners and you always have to leave a bit of skepticism because of the all too familiar association with doping. No one, whether it's Chris Froome in road cycling or Bolt in athletics people are naturally always going to hold suspicion.

      Yep, that's why there's not really many athletes I "hero worship" anymore.

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      Reply #49: Aug 09, 2017 06:12:53 pm
      Is this article fair? No smoke without fire? Or are people just looking for it - Gatlin fans desperate 'everyone's done it' claim, Bolt the inevitable victim of a sport riddled with doping scandal and innuendo?

      https://medium.com/@tomnew/usain-bolt-lance-armstrong-and-the-duck-test-303b7b891e7e



      I have to admit the thought about Bolt and doping has crossed my mind briefly at times but I always put it out of my head pretty quickly and like to think he's a kind of beacon of hope for Athletics and a naturally gifted athlete.

      Like FL says until proven otherwise that's how I go.

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