Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool FC Manager

Maybe time for Jürgen to hire a defence coach to help him out?

Maybe it's time for him to buy a #6, CB (or 2) and Butland in January.

Maybe time for Jürgen to hire a defence coach to help him out?

I'd settle for this being time Edwards did his damn job and start scouring the world for a Center Back or two we can sign in January, and I'd also settle for Klopp recognising what we all know in that what we have isn't good enough to get us through the season intact.

Maybe time for Jürgen to hire a defence coach to help him out?

Maybe it's time for Jürgen to hire a coach to get his defence and him the F**k away from stadiums like yesterday's humiliation and away down the motorway, this will prevent them being affected by the ferocious criticism by people who fail to see the catastrophic defeat it is not entirely their fault.

One man gets sent off and the side disintegrates, all areas of play are found wanting immediately as shortcoming is detected in the team's capability to respond under pressure.

This malaise is not an overnight process but a result of 8 years managed dereliction of duty in maintaining the status of the club, promises year on year have done little to help, the promise of Keita next year is further down that road.

The above dovetails with a party not fully committed to a confirmed asset and willing to cream said asset and see absolutely no reason to part with their own wedge while the asset does what an asset does -  a nice little earner requiring no input whatsoever.

Maybe it's time for Jürgen to hire a coach to get his defence and him fthe f**k away from stadiums like yesterday's humiliation and away down the motorway, this will prevent them being affected by the ferocious criticism by people who fail to see the catastrophic defeat it is not entirely their fault.

One man gets sent off and the side disintegrates, all areas of play are found wanting immediately as shortcoming is detected in the team's capability to respond under pressure.

This malaise is not an overnight process but a result of 8 years managed dereliction of duty in maintaining the status of the club, promises year on year have done little to help, the promise of Keita next year is further down that road.

The above dovetails with a party not fully committed to a confirmed asset and willing to cream said asset and see absolutely no reason to part with their own wedge while the asset does what an asset does -  a nice little earner requiring no input whatsoever.

Klopp picked the back 5, Klopp chose not to address the back 5 in the summer as there was none other than VVD to take us another level.

Klopp picked the back 5, Klopp chose not to address the back 5 in the summer as there was none other than VVD to take us another level.

You're talking to a brick wall, mate. He cannot, and will not accept that any situation is anything other than FSG's fault. It's pissing down outside. That's probably their fault as well.

Klopp picked the back 5, Klopp chose not to address the back 5 in the summer as there was none other than VVD to take us another level.

Read the posts before you respond,  that is tho' irrelevant to yourself and your pro-F SG agenda.

To reitterate, the squad and Klopp's team selection are affected by the 8 years fuckuppery under FSG.
Not the assortment of managers they have appointed and sacked or any other distraction they present.
The common factor in 8 years of continuing none-achievement is FSG, troll somebody else with your inane excuses for their none-commitment and stop taking the piss!.

Maybe time for Jürgen to hire a defence coach to help him out?

Maybe time he admits he made a huge mistake signing Ox for £40mill to sit on the bench and generally not add anything instead of bolstering what is an incredibly fragile defence.

Ox cost more than Bonucci and he went to a rival team. Let that sink in.

You're talking to a brick wall, mate. He cannot, and will not accept that any situation is anything other than FSG's fault. It's pissing down outside. That's probably their fault as well.

The only brick wall is yourself.
Did you not see the humiliation yesterday?

A catastrophic performance and weakness in every area of play is down to a manager who has been here two years?

A worldwide respected manager with international experience?
Have a word with yourself lad.

Maybe time he admits he made a huge mistake signing Ox for £40mill to sit on the bench and generally not add anything instead of bolstering what is an incredibly fragile defence.

Ox cost more than Bonucci and he went to a rival team. Let that sink in.

Apparently, Bonucci wanted to stay in Italy because his son is ill. But I get your point, could we have improved our defence other than signing VVD? I'm sure we could. If not, we'd better offer Soton' £300m January because he's the only defender left worth going for.

It is glaringly obvious we need to strenghten at the back, we did try to do so pre-season but completely fu**ed it up, we all know by now that Klopp wants specific players or none at all, and for most including myself is a bit fooking mad, Klopp believes his CB's are good enough we know they are not, Klopp probably deep down agrees but is stubborn and won't change until perhaps January or at worse next summer,


so we're stuck with what we have, rightly or wrongly we just need to get on with it, yesterday we capitulated after the red and to be honest it was like men V boys, yes we could have changed the way we play by ramming 5 across the middle and hoped to catch them on the break, but that's not how we play, and it's not what we train for, for most that was the most sensible thing to do, and probably what i'd have done, we may have still lost but apart from the goals against column we have still only lost 3 pts,

City after the red made mince meat of us to be honest, they spread the play wide and exploited the spaces created by their movement, usually when a team goes down to 10 they go compact making it as difficult as possible for the opposition, but City would still have had a free ride by the way they used the width of the pitch and exposing our already weak midfield,

A real sh*t day at the office and one to forget, there won't be many that visit the Etihad and come out smiling that's for sure.

Heads up, forget it it's gone, we all know what our issues are, so let's just get on with it, there is F**k all we can do until Jan if at all, ONWARDS & UPWARDS !!


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At this point I think he insists with Mingelot Lovren and Moreno so that he can tell everybody 'see I told you I can win trophies with this donkeys'..his stubbornes got him in trouble at Dortmund and I can see why..to not be able to improve on that defence in 4 consecutive transfer windows is staggering..Chelsea has CB's on loan that would walk in our first team and you tell me they can't find a CB better than Klavan

Read the posts before you respond,  that is tho' irrelevant to yourself and your pro-F SG agenda.

To reitterate, the squad and Klopp's team selection are affected by the 8 years fuckuppery under FSG.
Not the assortment of managers they have appointed and sacked or any other distraction they present.
The common factor in 8 years of continuing none-achievement is FSG, troll somebody else with your inane excuses for their none-commitment and stop taking the piss!.

Get fu**ed with the FSG 'agenda' that all you have to throw at posters who disagree with you?, Klopp chose his primary targets, he didn't want any secondary targets just to fill in gaps.

Your anger should be targeted towards the Boss, who signed on the dotted line knowing what structures were in place.

Just to add,small margins but we could have had more trophies under FSG.. FA Cup,League Cup & Europa Cup...small margins like I said.

If klopp brought in two better cback then what we have l do believe we win league no chance now with with donkey's we have in back line

Get fu**ed with the FSG 'agenda' that all you have to throw at posters who disagree with you?, Klopp chose his primary targets, he didn't want any secondary targets just to fill in gaps.

Your anger should be targeted towards the Boss, who signed on the dotted line knowing what structures were in place.

Just to add,small margins but we could have had more trophies under FSG.. FA Cup,League Cup & Europa Cup...small margins like I said.

Resort to profanities as you will in an attempt to give your whitewashing of the owners some credibility.

The fact remains we have had to endure 8 years of none achievement, managers appointed and dismissed by the owners as they were unable to carry out their duties satisfactorily under the constriction set by the same owners.

Your nearly, small margins closing paragraph is an ill-juged final admittance of failure.

If klopp brought in two better cback then what we have l do believe we win league no chance now with with donkey's we have in back line

One or two signings

We will win the league

Right now

Sack him

😩

We are paying the price for a shitty transfer window... Yeah some here will try and defend it by saying we beat Arsenal 4-0 or we lost the game with the sending off of Mane... Arsenal did not start Kolasinac, or Lacazette....City were all over us and looking in control and threading from the start; and more than likely would have beaten us without the red card shown to Mane....

City changed both of their L/R back for better players. Bought in a better Goal keeper, and left sided midfielder in Mendy... What did LFC do...? We added Salah, and the OX (squad player) and two Potential improvements in Robertson and Solanke... Not wishing to put the two young guys down, but you see the problem...? City bought in Quality players we bought mainly potential...

To further underline that point, think of it like the numbers game in Countdown... You have four rows of numbers from which the contestant choose five(or is it 4?) any way. The top row being the best and the bottom row being Potential... City choose four from the top and second row while LFC Choose one from the second row, one from the third and two from the forth row...

City now have a monster of a Squad and have improved in the areas the manager Identified in which the team need to improve, while LFC improved in one area alone with Salah,two if you  are counting depth.... City,Utd,Chelsea,Arsenal,Spur have all Improved, while we have been treading water...

Our Best hope is that we can tough it out for a fifth spot in the Premier League and maybe a decent cup run, and a final down the road...

We have Keita coming next season; the money for Coutinho and with that the possibility of Lemar and VVD... But by then I seriously doubt we will be playing CL football... 

Klopp is a great manager, who sometimes lets him self down, but in the main is let down by those around him... I felt that FSG held on to Coutinho for all the wrong reasons and tried to appease the supporters; when in fact selling him would have benefited the Club Manager, and Team  in both short and long term....

Sometime you have to pay over the top to get the right players in to improve the team... Had we taken the reported £140-£160 m maybe we could have done just that...

Get fu**ed with the FSG 'agenda' that all you have to throw at posters who disagree with you?, Klopp chose his primary targets, he didn't want any secondary targets just to fill in gaps.

Your anger should be targeted towards the Boss, who signed on the dotted line knowing what structures were in place.

Just to add,small margins but we could have had more trophies under FSG.. FA Cup,League Cup & Europa Cup...small margins like I said.

So you are saying that the Ox was a primary target...? and Solanke...?...Lemar...? Well I not sure on the last one but the first two I don't think so...

So you are saying that the Ox was a primary target...? and Solanke...?...Lemar...? Well I not sure on the last one but the first two I don't think so...

Our primary target we wanted to buy, we couldn't bid for, cos we got collared tapping him up!!

The only brick wall is yourself.
Did you not see the humiliation yesterday?

A catastrophic performance and weakness in every area of play is down to a manager who has been here two years?

A worldwide respected manager with international experience?
Have a word with yourself lad.

I watched it, but you can't blame everything on FSG. Not every negative thing that happens to the club can or should be attributed to them. First off, Mane was unfairly sent off, and then, reduced to ten men, City exploited every defensive weakness we have as team. That defensive weakness had money there to address it, money stumped up by FSG - assuming that FSG starts and ends with the board which is debatable - and Klopp, no one else but Klopp decided that in the entire world, Van Dyke was the only possible player we could obtain who would be markedly better than Matip, Lovren or Klavan. John Henry didn't decide that, Mike Gordon didn't decide that, Klopp did.

To make matters worse during the match, Klopp then decided to take Salah off, the pacest player we had on and the one who was giving City the most to think about. Klopp, not John Henry, not Mike Gordon, made a tactical error that let City off the hook. He then compounded his error by bringing on Solanke when Sturridge was the more experienced, more talented player on the bench and the obvious choice given the context of the game. That tactical error was Klopps, not John Henry's, not Mike Gordon's.

If FSG had done a Mike Ashley and refused to stump up the cash for the players in the Summer your complaints would have merrit but they didn't, so they don't. Like I said, you can't blame FSG for everything that goes wrong.

Didn't watch any more of the weekend football after our capitulation, couldn't face it. Have said that if Jürgen can't bring us on, who would be next?, and where would we go from there. No answer to that.  He needs more time, and he'll get it.

But the long lauded summer window is passed, and you look at our back 5 ?! Can't improve on current CBs?  Please. Can understand Jürgen might be protecting his players, window passed and all.  And that's fine.  But 'we' can call that kinda quote what it is, plain bollox.

Players from the back 5 we should've replaced (or not signed, eg Karius) years back aside, we still can't defend as a team. Dig in. Be hard to beat, solid at set pieces. Nothing has changed. We're great on the front foot, but when the game swings the other way, too often we crumble. Defensive coach?! Reckon most people don't like the idea, but what we are doing now is NOT working.

We focused on the summer again on the attacking side, yet didn't sign an out-and-out striker. We score a lot of goals, whack 4 past a poor Arse, but imho too rarely we score against the run of play. Coutinho is closest we have to that, we need to get him back asap. Perfect example was Aquero, top finish to put them 1 up when we were on top.

Utd signed Matic, Chavs have Kante, guys who like a tackle, get stuck in, mop up and protect the back 4, do a very specific job. We don't have that guy. Maybe a guy like that would help give some defensive balance in the side. But obviously would take from the quick break that we're set up for.

the most frustrating thing is not watching it happen. It's watching it happen in the knowledge that it's happened so many times before and very little seems to be getting done about it.   All the talk BEFORE this summer had me thinking - maybe naively - that we would really strengthen and this season would be different. You can see why people get more cynical as they get older 

At this point I think he insists with Mingelot Lovren and Moreno so that he can tell everybody 'see I told you I can win trophies with this donkeys'..his stubbornes got him in trouble at Dortmund and I can see why..to not be able to improve on that defence in 4 consecutive transfer windows is staggering..

Chelsea has have CB's on loan that would walk in our first team and you tell me they can't find a CB better than Klavan

Time all of  Brendan's dross was flushed down the toilet

I watched it, but you can't blame everything on FSG. Not every negative thing that happens to the club can or should be attributed to them. First off, Mane was unfairly sent off, and then, reduced to ten men, City exploited every defensive weakness we have as team. That defensive weakness had money there to address it, money stumped up by FSG - assuming that FSG starts and ends with the board which is debatable - and Klopp, no one else but Klopp decided that in the entire world, Van Dyke was the only possible player we could obtain who would be markedly better than Matip, Lovren or Klavan. John Henry didn't decide that, Mike Gordon didn't decide that, Klopp did.

To make matters worse during the match, Klopp then decided to take Salah off, the pacest player we had on and the one who was giving City the most to think about. Klopp, not John Henry, not Mike Gordon, made a tactical error that let City off the hook. He then compounded his error by bringing on Solanke when Sturridge was the more experienced, more talented player on the bench and the obvious choice given the context of the game. That tactical error was Klopps, not John Henry's, not Mike Gordon's.

If FSG had done a Mike Ashley and refused to stump up the cash for the players in the Summer your complaints would have merrit but they didn't, so they don't. Like I said, you can't blame FSG for everything that goes wrong.

With 8 years of under-achievement, minimal net-spend year on year, woeful decision making in that time scale there is nobody else to blame but the owners,   this is all under their watch.

How many January windows have we anticipated with a failure to do what's required in the previous tansfer window?
How many times has that anticipation been dashed?

We will tackle the CL with the same outfit that was humiliated yesterday, Coutinho if played will not prevent further humiliation.

I wish to F**k JWH's promises were to be believed,

Time all of  Brendan's dross was flushed down the toilet

We've had 4 transfer windows since, for some reason the flush doesn't seem to be working... maybe we need to fix that ...