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      Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool FC Manager

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      Reply #15150 : Dec 07, 2017 11:43:29 am »
      Congratulations to the manager for getting the club back in to the serious end of Europe's biggest competition for the first time in 9 years.

      Without a shadow of a doubt our best manager since Benitez and hopefully he can go on to be our best manager since prime Dalglish.

      I can't think of anybody who could be a better fit for us right now.

      Came in to say the same thing.
      Well mostly.
      Great to be back in the Business end of The Champions League.
      Been a long time. Great to beat United's Goals Scored The Groups Record.
      We'd have it outright except PSG ran riot in their Group.

      I do think you're right about the fit. None out there I'd rather have as manager right now.
      Hopefully he keeps that 4-2-3-1 (or 4-2-4 or 4-2-2-2 or whatever you're having yourself)
      for the season. As a club that seems to have always suited. Especially when that front 4 is phenomenal.

      Keep making the magic happen, and maybe address some of the defence in January.
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      Reply #15151 : Dec 07, 2017 01:37:09 pm »
      If we actually addressed the defense in January, they might  have to outlaw us from playing in any competitions :)
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      Reply #15152 : Dec 07, 2017 04:22:40 pm »
      If we actually addressed the defense in January, they might  have to outlaw us from playing in any competitions :)

      I know it probably won't happen but imagine we got VVD in and managed to get Keita early.

      I think we'd actually be un-stoppable. Looking at Keita's stats he seems like a one man midfield.

      I genuinely think he will push us up a level attack wise and even shore us up a bit defensively.

      Add Virgil in and it looks a whole lot better.
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      Reply #15153 : Dec 07, 2017 05:13:28 pm »
      I know it probably won't happen but imagine we got VVD in and managed to get Keita early.

      I think we'd actually be un-stoppable. Looking at Keita's stats he seems like a one man midfield.

      I genuinely think he will push us up a level attack wise and even shore us up a bit defensively.

      Add Virgil in and it looks a whole lot better.



      Yep i agree although Naby would be cup tied, but would be ok for the league, in fact it would be ideal to have him in early so he could acclimitise with the Epl, he could then hit the ground running in our title winning season of 2018-19, which when you look at it, it has a certain ring to it  18 -19, 😎,

      Get VVD in first then add a DM of quality instead of mediocre Henderson and we will be pulling up trees for sure !!


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      Reply #15154 : Dec 07, 2017 05:29:06 pm »


      Yep i agree although Naby would be cup tied, but would be ok for the league, in fact it would be ideal to have him in early so he could acclimitise with the Epl, he could then hit the ground running in our title winning season of 2018-19, which when you look at it, it has a certain ring to it  18 -19, 😎,

      Get VVD in first then add a DM of quality instead of mediocre Henderson and we will be pulling up trees for sure !!


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      Don't know, they are pushing for another CL spot next season...not so sure they will let him go and I am not sure we would go in and offer them a sweetener good enough for them to risk next years CL.

      We made a deal with them after a contentious battle to get him in this season...it was smart for us to lock him up and it worked for both parties. Unfortunately imo we have a bit of a bad rep right now in transfer dealings...reneging on a deal and going back in for him again might do more harm than good in the future when other teams deal with us.

      Now if Naby or his reps want to push it then I'm all for it.
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      Reply #15155 : Dec 07, 2017 07:46:51 pm »
      Don't know, they are pushing for another CL spot next season...not so sure they will let him go and I am not sure we would go in and offer them a sweetener good enough for them to risk next years CL.

      We made a deal with them after a contentious battle to get him in this season...it was smart for us to lock him up and it worked for both parties. Unfortunately imo we have a bit of a bad rep right now in transfer dealings...reneging on a deal and going back in for him again might do more harm than good in the future when other teams deal with us.

      Now if Naby or his reps want to push it then I'm all for it.


      My understanding was that if Leipzig made it into the last 16 then obviously Keita would stay for sure, but they haven't, that doesn't mean to say he's going to request he comes here earlier but its possible Leipzig could be persuaded to release him if a sweetener was added , maybe a extra £5m, i doubt it tho but stranger things blah blah, maybe if we chucked on Henderson eh ! 😁😁😁😁😁

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      Reply #15156 : Dec 07, 2017 08:28:19 pm »

      My understanding was that if Leipzig made it into the last 16 then obviously Keita would stay for sure, but they haven't, that doesn't mean to say he's going to request he comes here earlier but its possible Leipzig could be persuaded to release him if a sweetener was added , maybe a extra £5m, i doubt it tho but stranger things blah blah, maybe if we chucked on Henderson eh ! 😁😁😁😁😁

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      Why would £5 million move them when they are 2nd in the league where only 5 points separate them from 9th?...would we move Coutinho now for an extra sweetener?

      Surely qualifying next season for CL is more important to them then an extra cash payment when they supposedly turned down 20 million more than we are paying them 6 months from now.

      I'm all for bringing him in but lets get real.
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      Reply #15157 : Dec 07, 2017 09:07:11 pm »
      Why would £5 million move them when they are 2nd in the league where only 5 points separate them from 9th?...would we move Coutinho now for an extra sweetener?

      Surely qualifying next season for CL is more important to them then an extra cash payment when they supposedly turned down 20 million more than we are paying them 6 months from now.

      I'm all for bringing him in but lets get real.



      I was surmising mate probably way off the mark , i doubt Liepzig will give him up early but you never know, be nice tho IF it happened,
      We live in hope i guess !

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      Reply #15158 : Dec 08, 2017 12:08:14 am »
      I'm bowled over that we're back in the Champions League knockout rounds, amongst the elite in Europe once more after all this time. This is what going home feels like!

      And all thanks to this man. We needed a big personality and a great manager to haul ourselves back in there and he is that man. Of course - he and us will not stop there.

      That's why he is perfect for this club.
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      Reply #15159 : Dec 08, 2017 01:49:29 am »
      Congratulations to the manager for getting the club back in to the serious end of Europe's biggest competition for the first time in 9 years.

      Without a shadow of a doubt our best manager since Benitez and hopefully he can go on to be our best manager since prime Dalglish.

      I can't think of anybody who could be a better fit for us right now.

      Amen. And with so much room to improve!

      Exciting times for us.
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      Reply #15160 : Dec 08, 2017 12:33:43 pm »
      Well done Mr Klopp, thank you ever so much for getting us back into the CL knockout stages again.

      Although i question your tactical awareness (specifically game management and defensive signings or a lack off) I always have stated among-st my peers and friends if anyone is going to get us far in the CL it will be you.

      We are playing frightfully good football right now and if anyone can keep this attacking momentum going it is the admirer of heavy metal football, but please please please please try to address the defensive issues in one way or another come Jan.

      Thanks.
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      Reply #15161 : Dec 08, 2017 05:01:48 pm »
      Attacking wise we are playing some lovely lovely stuff now. Now just get a new goalie, CB and DM and we will be a real force to reckon with. We are getting there, slowly but surely and without having to burn through wads of petro dollars.

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      Reply #15162 : Dec 09, 2017 08:28:22 am »
      The attack he has developed is phenomenal and as said, taking us into the Champions League knockouts for the first time in a decade shows we are on the right track.

      Now get that defence sorted and we would be unstoppable.
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      Reply #15163 : Dec 10, 2017 04:08:06 pm »
      Answers on a f**king postcard.
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      Reply #15164 : Dec 10, 2017 04:13:01 pm »
      Sorry Jürgen I’ll give you credit when the rotation works like at Stoke and Brighton but really didn’t today. For all our possession Salah works a goal from nothing and Pickford hardly has a save to make. 2 maybe 3 changes too many
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      Reply #15165 : Dec 10, 2017 04:14:14 pm »
      For the record I don't care about team selection.

      But those subs. What the f**k?
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      Reply #15166 : Dec 10, 2017 04:18:46 pm »
      I AM FUMING WITH YOU!

      1. Why the f**k would you take off your best player, probably the most in form player in the world right now, in a derby in which a win takes us third. You could tell we were desperate for a second goal and then you go and do that.

      2. Why rest two of our best players, for what reason? I have an inkling it was to take away the hype from the fantastic four label and to show our squad can do it too, news flash they can't!

      When will he learn.
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      Reply #15167 : Dec 10, 2017 04:34:29 pm »
      You fu**ed up again Klopp
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      Reply #15168 : Dec 10, 2017 04:36:43 pm »
      Why take off the only striker who looked like scoring, and leave on Solanke who done nothing and Mane who had a stinker, no doubt Klopp will be defending Lovren again
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      Reply #15169 : Dec 10, 2017 04:37:54 pm »
      Another chance to progress fu**ed up....AGAIN
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      Reply #15170 : Dec 10, 2017 04:40:58 pm »
      Rotation my arse he had to bring on his "rested players" and now has to play them against West Brom in the week, why not play your strongest team and if you get a comfatable lead take them off, frustrating
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      Reply #15171 : Dec 10, 2017 04:46:20 pm »
      Wasn't too enamored with the substitutions but the fact we dominated and led at 1-0 (and should have been more) with the team he put out today meant that he did his job on that front and doesn't deserve criticism. They looked well drilled, patient, faultless up until one of our usual suspects threw a grenade into the works. If Lovren doesn't commit the error that any self respecting 'Premier League' defender would not do then we'd all be calling him a genius for getting us through this with plenty left still in the tank.

      I said in the match thread - great managers often straddle that line between genius and recklessness such is their trust and confidence in the tactics and teams they play. But if you have players like Lovren (or Mignolet) on the field you'll more often than not find yourself on the wrong side of that line. That is something Klopp will have to sort out sooner rather than later because these players are single handedly pushing Klopp over the wrong side of that line.
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      Reply #15172 : Dec 10, 2017 04:50:17 pm »
      Wasn't too enamored with the substitutions but the fact we dominated and led at 1-0 (and should have been more) with the team he put out today meant that he did his job on that front and doesn't deserve criticism. They looked well drilled, patient, faultless up until one of our usual suspects threw a grenade into the works. If Lovren doesn't commit the error that any self respecting 'Premier League' defender would not do then we'd all be calling him a genius for getting us through this with plenty left still in the tank.

      I said in the match thread - great managers often straddle that line between genius and recklessness such is their trust and confidence in the tactics and teams they play. But if you have players like Lovren (or Mignolet) on the field you'll more often than not find yourself on the wrong side of that line. That is something Klopp will have to sort out sooner rather than later because these players are single handedly pushing Klopp over the wrong side of that line.

      Don't quite agree, we may have dominated possession and been in control like that, but in the PL you know an 1-0 lead is never enough and the line up put out never looked like scoring a second, we barely had any shots on target.



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      Reply #15173 : Dec 10, 2017 05:09:14 pm »
      Wasn't too enamored with the substitutions but the fact we dominated and led at 1-0 (and should have been more) with the team he put out today meant that he did his job on that front and doesn't deserve criticism. They looked well drilled, patient, faultless up until one of our usual suspects threw a grenade into the works. If Lovren doesn't commit the error that any self respecting 'Premier League' defender would not do then we'd all be calling him a genius for getting us through this with plenty left still in the tank.

      I said in the match thread - great managers often straddle that line between genius and recklessness such is their trust and confidence in the tactics and teams they play. But if you have players like Lovren (or Mignolet) on the field you'll more often than not find yourself on the wrong side of that line. That is something Klopp will have to sort out sooner rather than later because these players are single handedly pushing Klopp over the wrong side of that line.


       Dominate all you like it's about scoring and the result was 1-1, We had 3shots on target Everton had 2 so much for domination
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      Reply #15174 : Dec 10, 2017 05:27:16 pm »
      This is a worrying stat and Klopp needs to fix it.

      https://twitter.com/bet365/status/939890267938803713
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      Reply #15175 : Dec 10, 2017 05:29:57 pm »
      Rotation my arse he had to bring on his "rested players" and now has to play them against West Brom in the week, why not play your strongest team and if you get a comfatable lead take them off, frustrating

      Fully agree !
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      Reply #15176 : Dec 10, 2017 05:31:57 pm »
      I said on 20 minutes I'm starting to get nervous. I could see it happening.

      I'm all for rotation and all that but Klopp needs to revise how he picks his battles. You don't rest Can, Coutinho, and Firmino against one of your bitterest rivals, only to have those players fresh - for WBA - at home. And you do not take off the leading premier league goalscorer when he looks the only real threat (Everton were terrified of him).

      Lovren messed up but really, we should have been out of sight by that time.
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      Reply #15177 : Dec 10, 2017 05:33:32 pm »
      It's like, two steps forward but always one step back, and most of the time those one steps back might have been easily avoided.
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      Reply #15178 : Dec 10, 2017 05:35:03 pm »
      This season we have blown a one-goal lead against Watford, Newcastle, Chelsea, and now Everton (that's not counting Sevilla in the CL). Against Palace was the only game where we managed to protect a one-goal lead till the end. Without those dropped points we would have been in the second place right now instead of United.
      This to me is the biggest issue with Klopp - he needs to have a plan to see out those narrow wins. Seems to me that his only plan is to get the team to score more goals and when we failed to do that it came back to haunt us.
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      Reply #15179 : Dec 10, 2017 05:35:40 pm »
      I said on 20 minutes I'm starting to get nervous. I could see it happening.

      I'm all for rotation and all that but Klopp needs to revise how he picks his battles. You don't rest Can, Coutinho, and Firmino against one of your bitterest rivals, only to have those players fresh - for WBA - at home. And you do not take off the leading premier league goalscorer when he looks the only real threat (Everton were terrified of him).

      Lovren messed up but really, we should have been out of sight by that time.

      Mane messed up just as much as Lovren but I suppose we can blame Klopp for that also!

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