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      Tyson Fury
      Nov 28, 2015 08:41:36 pm
      I have for the first time ever paid Sky to watch Boxing. I am not sure what will happen but just seen Jono Carrol take a fight on 24 hours notice and he put on a great show a really talented lad
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      Reply #1: Nov 28, 2015 09:14:43 pm
      I have for the first time ever paid Sky to watch Boxing. I am not sure what will happen but just seen Jono Carrol take a fight on 24 hours notice and he put on a great show a really talented lad

      I've bought the fight as well Walt but only just switched on just now.

      Wasnt going to buy it but I love a big Heavyweight fight and this is one of the biggest in a while.
      « Last Edit: Nov 28, 2015 09:45:46 pm by srslfc »
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      Reply #2: Nov 28, 2015 09:44:54 pm
      I have for the first time ever paid Sky to watch Boxing. I am not sure what will happen but just seen Jono Carrol take a fight on 24 hours notice and he put on a great show a really talented lad

      Just seen this Walton lad, I bought the Tyson Bruno fight way back when and was slated for it saying it will be the end of normal tv viewing !
      Not seen a boxing match for absolutely years but trying to find it online without paying this time !
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      Reply #3: Nov 28, 2015 09:47:16 pm
      The Germans really do fight night well.

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      Reply #4: Nov 28, 2015 09:50:51 pm
      Damn it they sorted the sound out.

      I thought we were going to be spars having listen to Rod Stewart. ;D
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      Reply #5: Nov 28, 2015 10:31:33 pm
      Fury started well but is Wladimir just biding his time?
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      Reply #6: Nov 28, 2015 10:39:49 pm
      Fury edging this one and blood running as well !
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      Reply #7: Nov 28, 2015 10:43:59 pm
      Fury edging this one and blood running as well !


      I have him ahead by a round Frizz.

      He's doing well but Wlad slowly coming into it a bit more
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      Reply #8: Nov 28, 2015 10:48:21 pm
      F***ing hell, Fury there with both hands behind his back what cheek, hope he doesn't regret it !
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      Reply #9: Nov 28, 2015 10:55:08 pm
      Great burst of energy there from tyson!
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      Reply #10: Nov 28, 2015 10:55:56 pm
      That right hurt Fury but he came back well.

      I still have Fury slightly ahead.
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      Reply #11: Nov 28, 2015 10:58:12 pm
      I've always had Fury ahead but have watched boxing long enough to expect the unexpected !!
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      Reply #12: Nov 28, 2015 11:08:46 pm
      Fury won it for me.
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      Reply #13: Nov 28, 2015 11:09:08 pm
      same here !
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      Reply #14: Nov 28, 2015 11:11:00 pm
      Can't see anything but a fury win
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      Reply #15: Nov 28, 2015 11:12:07 pm
      He deserved that
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      Reply #16: Nov 28, 2015 11:12:59 pm
      Well done Tyson British world champion!
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      Reply #17: Nov 28, 2015 11:15:53 pm
      Well done Tyson British world champion!

      Well deserved.



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      Reply #18: Nov 28, 2015 11:31:04 pm
      not sure what that was to be honest. Was Klitschko actually bothered I cant remember a world title fight with so few punches landing.
      However he can only beat what is in front of him and he is the undisputed champion well him and Jesus
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      Reply #19: Nov 28, 2015 11:33:59 pm
      not sure what that was to be honest. Was Klitschko actually bothered I cant remember a world title fight with so few punches landing.
      However he can only beat what is in front of him and he is the undisputed champion well him and Jesus

      To me it was a combination of Waldimir underestimating Tyson and then Fury executing his game plan by being totally unorthodox.
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      Reply #20: Nov 28, 2015 11:43:05 pm
      To me it was a combination of Waldimir underestimating Tyson and then Fury executing his game plan by being totally unorthodox.

      Still not sure what happened the Champion in Germany basically a home match and with a point deduction and he still couldn't win. Fury was unmarked and other than a deliberate head but and his shorts falling down he never looked in danger

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      Reply #21: Nov 28, 2015 11:55:28 pm
      Well done Tyson it was a deserved win.
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      Reply #22: Nov 29, 2015 12:01:17 am
      Glad he won and Jim Watt wasn't on.  Livens the division up anyway.

      Wilder would be interesting but Joshua will blast him. I've no bout about that. Haye would also be interesting.

      Hope Klitschko retires now. He's been a good Champion but, for me, drained any little excitement out of the Heavyweight division. Talk of a rematch in the fight clause. God I hope not.

      Oh,  and Rod Stewart? Mad sh*t.
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      Reply #23: Nov 29, 2015 12:05:46 am
      Glad he won and Jim Watt wasn't on.  Livens the division up anyway.

      Wilder would be interesting but Joshua will blast him. I've no bout about that. Haye would also be interesting.

      Hope Klitschko retires now. He's been a good Champion but, for me, drained any little excitement out of the Heavyweight division. Talk of a rematch in the fight clause. God I hope not.

      Oh,  and Rod Stewart? Mad sh*t.

      Antony Joshua is the fight mate but I'm not sure Fury would take that anytime soon.
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      Reply #24: Nov 29, 2015 12:09:29 am
      Antony Joshua is the fight mate but I'm not sure Fury would take that anytime soon.

      Joshua is not ready for the fight, talented as he is Fury is too experienced fir him at the moment.
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      Reply #25: Nov 29, 2015 12:12:03 am
      Joshua is not ready for the fight, talented as he is Fury is too experienced fir him at the moment.


      Good point mate.

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      Reply #26: Nov 29, 2015 09:20:48 am
      Joshua is not ready for the fight, talented as he is Fury is too experienced fir him at the moment.


      Don't agree mate. Joshua is the closest thing I've seen to a young Mike Tyson. At 26 he isn't as young but that brute power and speed is something that will tear anybody apart.

      Joshua does the lot in my opinion.

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      Reply #27: Nov 29, 2015 09:25:04 am
      I watched the fight, didn't buy it though.  Had a top quality HD stream on Kodi.

      Not sure what Klitschko's problem was but considering he is older than me then I'd imagine that has a big bearing on it!  You can't fight age!

      Heavyweight boxing took a big knock to it's already tattered credibility last night.  When I was a kid it was all 'Baddest man on the planet'.  Now it seems to be more 'Batmanest man on the planet'.

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      Reply #28: Nov 29, 2015 12:56:23 pm
      Think that's Klitschko finished now, he showed nothing to suggest he wanted the win last night, looked far from his best condition wise and Fury deserved the win. Glad I didn't pay to watch it, just as boring and the Mayweather Paquiao fight I thought.
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      Reply #29: Nov 29, 2015 06:28:55 pm
      Think that's Klitschko finished now, he showed nothing to suggest he wanted the win last night, looked far from his best condition wise and Fury deserved the win. Glad I didn't pay to watch it, just as boring and the Mayweather Paquiao fight I thought.

      Was not great to be fair.

      I don't like Fury's religious views and attitude, but fair play, his tactics was spot on from the start and deserved to win. Yes Klitschko is getting older, but don't take away credit for a great victory. The champion was unbeaten for over 10 years. And to win on points with all 3 judges scoring for him, in Germany...Who would have expected that.

      I would love to see him take on Wilder, and then Joshua.
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      Reply #30: Nov 30, 2015 04:24:31 pm
      Was not great to be fair.

      I don't like Fury's religious views and attitude, but fair play, his tactics was spot on from the start and deserved to win. Yes Klitschko is getting older, but don't take away credit for a great victory. The champion was unbeaten for over 10 years. And to win on points with all 3 judges scoring for him, in Germany...Who would have expected that.

      I would love to see him take on Wilder, and then Joshua.

      I think if he wants to be a real Star he is going to have to keep his Buddy Jesus to himself its a real turn off for me.
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      Reply #31: Nov 30, 2015 05:42:44 pm
      I think if he wants to be a real Star he is going to have to keep his Buddy Jesus to himself its a real turn off for me.

      I don't see the problem with him being religious and not hiding it Walt.

      I'm not religious at all but if Fury is and doesn't want to hide it so be it.
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      Reply #32: Nov 30, 2015 06:20:29 pm
      I think if he wants to be a real Star he is going to have to keep his Buddy Jesus to himself its a real turn off for me.

      Think he could do with not making anymore homophobic comments as a big first.

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      Reply #33: Nov 30, 2015 08:31:18 pm
      Think he could do with not making anymore homophobic comments as a big first.



      seems like this is going to be a car crash just waiting to happen.
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      Reply #34: Nov 30, 2015 08:33:41 pm
      Think he could do with not making anymore homophobic comments as a big first.



      just looked up a few things on him yup definite fruit cake
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      Reply #35: Nov 30, 2015 10:04:30 pm
      Fury is exercising his right of 'freedom of Expression & Speech'.
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      Reply #36: Dec 01, 2015 02:21:31 am
      Fury is exercising his right of 'freedom of Expression & Speech'.

      But hate speech is prohibited in this country. It should be ever thus, freedoms and rights come with responsibilities, you don't live up to those, you lose some freedom and some rights.
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      Reply #37: Dec 07, 2015 07:22:43 pm
      "I'm not sexist. I believe a woman's best place is in the kitchen and on her back. That's my personal belief. Making me a good cup of tea, that's what I believe."

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35031110


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      Reply #38: Dec 08, 2015 11:05:38 am
      "I'm not sexist. I believe a woman's best place is in the kitchen and on her back. That's my personal belief. Making me a good cup of tea, that's what I believe."

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35031110


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      Well said Sir!
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      Reply #39: Dec 08, 2015 09:19:47 pm
      "I'm not sexist. I believe a woman's best place is in the kitchen and on her back. That's my personal belief. Making me a good cup of tea, that's what I believe."

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35031110


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      a good cup of tea is quite important but not when its poured over your head. I couldn't see my much better half accepting talk like that
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      Reply #40: Dec 09, 2015 10:59:02 pm
      Genuinely don't know whether to laugh or just shake my head whenever this fella opens his mouth.

      This is one of my favourites though from him.  I don't remember him banging on much about how Jesus loves everybody that day.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVsUmcVWC6I
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      Reply #41: Dec 10, 2015 12:19:43 pm
      Genuinely don't know whether to laugh or just shake my head whenever this fella opens his mouth.

      This is one of my favourites though from him.  I don't remember him banging on much about how Jesus loves everybody that day.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVsUmcVWC6I

      Should try listening to it when, like me, your name is David Price too.
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      Reply #42: Dec 10, 2015 02:47:44 pm
      He's a backward manc gypo bellend who just happens to be Heaveyweight Champion of the World, so anything he spouts is going to be jumped on by the media. Just get the feeling the press are building him up as the bogeyman ready to be smashed down by Antony Joshua.
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      Reply #43: Dec 10, 2015 06:50:19 pm
      When he started singing Aerosmith he took away the respect he got for beating Klitschko IMO. Cringe!
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      Reply #44: Dec 10, 2015 07:58:19 pm
      "McGregor copied me" quote from Fury. Self centred idiot. He's as entertaining as watching paint dry. Nothing is sadder than a man trying to be funny and sinking like a lead balloon. I cringe when I hear him try and mock others, his chat is woeful.
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      Reply #45: Dec 11, 2015 12:56:55 pm
      It feels a bit mental that this lad is heavyweight champion of the world.
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      Reply #46: Dec 11, 2015 05:51:13 pm
      Could it be too many blows to the head?
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      Reply #47: Mar 30, 2022 09:14:33 pm
      just out of curiosity I wonder how people feel about Fury now.
      I am completely won over the man is just unique and his last couple of fights have been a throw back to the good old days. Looking forward to his next one.
      As for Joshua has he been found out to be a bit of a manufactured boxer where Tyson has been fighting probably before he could walk.
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      Reply #48: Mar 30, 2022 09:42:36 pm
      just out of curiosity I wonder how people feel about Fury now.
      I am completely won over the man is just unique and his last couple of fights have been a throw back to the good old days. Looking forward to his next one.
      As for Joshua has he been found out to be a bit of a manufactured boxer where Tyson has been fighting probably before he could walk.

      Was a big fan of joshua but I think we have seen him reach his limit. Still think fury is a tool but fair play to him he is now far better fighter than I thought he would be
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      Reply #49: Mar 30, 2022 10:09:52 pm
      just out of curiosity I wonder how people feel about Fury now.
      I am completely won over the man is just unique and his last couple of fights have been a throw back to the good old days. Looking forward to his next one.
      As for Joshua has he been found out to be a bit of a manufactured boxer where Tyson has been fighting probably before he could walk.

      Always felt Joshua was more manufactured, he’s a good boxer but not in the same league as fury , there is no way Joshua would have taken them punches off Wilder ,  While Fury has his detractors he has certainly walked the walk , think he’s done a lot for those suffering mental health ,  will take a very good heavyweight to put him away not sure there is one out there at the moment certainly not Joshua .
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      Reply #50: Mar 30, 2022 10:46:04 pm
      It's not possible to judge him as a boxer because he hasn't fought anyone. Klitschko, the one name on his record, just completely froze against him and never let his hands go until the last round where he schooled him. Wilder is a joke. And now here again he's talking about retirement after ducking AJ. You can't trust him for anything.
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      Reply #51: Mar 31, 2022 10:15:22 am
      He has beaten all before him. If you dont like the guy fine but you simply cant disregard his record. Its AJ who has been found out not Fury.
      Wilder also has a record which makes him anything but a joke. You dont like Fury fine but you simply can't ignore the facts.
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      Reply #52: Mar 31, 2022 10:18:33 am
      Was a big fan of joshua but I think we have seen him reach his limit. Still think fury is a tool but fair play to him he is now far better fighter than I thought he would be

      I think you have to separate the man from the Boxer and early on he had not done enough but his record and his performances are the best out there at the moment.
      I thought Joshua would be the main man but he isnt is he and Fury is.
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      Reply #53: Mar 31, 2022 12:37:41 pm
      just out of curiosity I wonder how people feel about Fury now.
      I am completely won over the man is just unique and his last couple of fights have been a throw back to the good old days. Looking forward to his next one.
      As for Joshua has he been found out to be a bit of a manufactured boxer where Tyson has been fighting probably before he could walk.

      I was a big AJ fan till his racist comments then went right off the cnut.  :throw:

      Like you i too was won over by Fury and can never wait to see him in the ring. he is a marmite type of guy so this probably makes me like marmite now.  ;D
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      Reply #54: Mar 31, 2022 12:49:01 pm
      Boxing is a sport and entertainment


      Fury is good at the sport part and is unbeaten


      He is even better at the entertainment part


      He is raw , doesn’t give a monkeys about sharing his thinking , happy to admit he is flawed and was an idiot at times


      The guy is excellent and can’t see many at the moment beating him


      Not sure how you can not rate or like the guy
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      Reply #55: Mar 31, 2022 01:26:40 pm
      I was a big AJ fan till his racist comments then went right off the cnut.  :throw:

      Like you i too was won over by Fury and can never wait to see him in the ring. he is a marmite type of guy so this probably makes me like marmite now.  ;D

      Mike Tyson was a difficult character to like but he was just a whirlwind when he came on to the scene Fury is a difficult character too for different reasons. He is superbly gifted a natural fighter and boxer which is a winning combination not many have having said all of this his next fight could be interesting.
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      Reply #56: Mar 31, 2022 10:34:34 pm
      He has beaten all before him. If you dont like the guy fine but you simply cant disregard his record. Its AJ who has been found out not Fury.
      Wilder also has a record which makes him anything but a joke. You dont like Fury fine but you simply can't ignore the facts.

      It's not that I dislike him, I'm ambivalent. He says very stupid things, and contradicts himself almost every time he speaks, yet he can also be wise and kind and the way he turned his life around is obviously admirable and inspirational to many. He ducked the re-match with Klitch, he's ducked AJ and now he's talking about finishing. He's unproven to me. And while your point about Wilder having a record is true, it's just that it's the worst record in history of heavyweight Champions. To anyone who knows anything about boxing the guy is a joke.
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      Reply #57: Apr 01, 2022 09:25:27 am
      He ducked the re-match with Klitch

      No he didn't, when he beat Kiltchsko was when he hit rock bottom and the depression took hold of him.

      he's ducked AJ and now he's talking about finishing.

      He hasn't ducked AJ. AJ was too busy getting beat by Ruiz and then Usyk and at the time of the negotiations between the 2 camps, Wilder came back into the picture and that fight had to be done. If AJ had beaten Usyk then him and Fury would've been fighting now, but he went and lost and then triggered the rematch clause with Usyk which is why Fury has ended up fighting Whyte. Why would he duck AJ who got put on his arse by some short, fat Mexican bloke and then beaten by someone who isn't even a natural heavyweight. If he was to duck anyone it would've been Wilder, especially so soon after his comeback when he had everything to lose in terms of his return to the top of the sport and Wilder was intent on sending someone to the morgue.
      Listen to the reason why he's talking about calling it a day afterwards - his brain is still in tact and he has 150mill in the bank and doesn't want to risk his health anymore. Nothing wrong with that at all, why should he keep getting smacked in the head just to please audiences, don't blame him at all for wanting to bow out whilst he's in such a good position.

      To anyone who knows anything about boxing the guy is a joke.

      Couldn't be further from the truth.
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      Re: Tyson Fury
      Reply #58: Apr 01, 2022 09:56:04 am
      No he didn't, when he beat Kiltchsko was when he hit rock bottom and the depression took hold of him.

      He hasn't ducked AJ. AJ was too busy getting beat by Ruiz and then Usyk and at the time of the negotiations between the 2 camps, Wilder came back into the picture and that fight had to be done. If AJ had beaten Usyk then him and Fury would've been fighting now, but he went and lost and then triggered the rematch clause with Usyk which is why Fury has ended up fighting Whyte. Why would he duck AJ who got put on his arse by some short, fat Mexican bloke and then beaten by someone who isn't even a natural heavyweight. If he was to duck anyone it would've been Wilder, especially so soon after his comeback when he had everything to lose in terms of his return to the top of the sport and Wilder was intent on sending someone to the morgue.
      Listen to the reason why he's talking about calling it a day afterwards - his brain is still in tact and he has 150mill in the bank and doesn't want to risk his health anymore. Nothing wrong with that at all, why should he keep getting smacked in the head just to please audiences, don't blame him at all for wanting to bow out whilst he's in such a good position.

      Couldn't be further from the truth.

      Depression/ducking it's the same thing. He would have lost had he matched him again. Mental strength is part of the sport.

      He used AJ's name to promote himself, pretending he wanted the fight when he knew it wasn't going to happen.

      If he wants to retire and protect his health then that's a justifiable choice, but he cannot pretend he has a place in boxing history when he never faced the best fighters. Wilder has a rocket of a straight right, maybe the best since Hearns, but his technique is a complete joke. He's the worst Champion in history. If you can't see this I can't help you.

      Maybe Fury is the best of this generation, but he needs to prove it.
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      Reply #59: Apr 01, 2022 09:59:37 am
      It's not that I dislike him, I'm ambivalent. He says very stupid things, and contradicts himself almost every time he speaks, yet he can also be wise and kind and the way he turned his life around is obviously admirable and inspirational to many. He ducked the re-match with Klitch, he's ducked AJ and now he's talking about finishing. He's unproven to me. And while your point about Wilder having a record is true, it's just that it's the worst record in history of heavyweight Champions. To anyone who knows anything about boxing the guy is a joke.

      So much wrong, in all of that. Chatting absolute wham.
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      Reply #60: Apr 01, 2022 10:09:38 am
      So much wrong, in all of that. Chatting absolute wham.

      You convinced me. Well done.
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      Reply #61: Apr 01, 2022 10:42:16 am
      Depression/ducking it's the same thing.

      Complete and utter nonsense. One is a mental health condition and the other is not having the bottle. Can't believe someone would even have the audacity to say it's the same thing.


      He used AJ's name to promote himself, pretending he wanted the fight when he knew it wasn't going to happen.

      If he wants to retire and protect his health then that's a justifiable choice, but he cannot pretend he has a place in boxing history when he never faced the best fighters. Wilder has a rocket of a straight right, maybe the best since Hearns, but his technique is a complete joke. He's the worst Champion in history. If you can't see this I can't help you.

      Maybe Fury is the best of this generation, but he needs to prove it.

      Complete rubbish.
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      Reply #62: Apr 01, 2022 10:47:08 am
      It's not that I dislike him, I'm ambivalent. He says very stupid things, and contradicts himself almost every time he speaks, yet he can also be wise and kind and the way he turned his life around is obviously admirable and inspirational to many. He ducked the re-match with Klitch, he's ducked AJ and now he's talking about finishing. He's unproven to me. And while your point about Wilder having a record is true, it's just that it's the worst record in history of heavyweight Champions. To anyone who knows anything about boxing the guy is a joke.

      you clearly know f**k all do you, try listening to people who know a little bit more than you not on this forum but from the boxing world he may not have classic boxing technique but he has a weapon that put his opponents to sleep. As for Fury I am sure he is gutted to be disrespected by you he may as well pack in now.
      You do know the guy was close to suicide for a long while and to get himself back into the ring was a very very impressive feat in its self.
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      Reply #63: Apr 01, 2022 11:16:17 am
      Depression/ducking it's the same thing. He would have lost had he matched him again. Mental strength is part of the sport.


      Maybe Fury is the best of this generation, but he needs to prove it.

      Sorry Isaac but Depression and ducking is far from the same thing.  ;D  What does Fury need to improv on since he has become world champion? He’s beaten everyone in front of him. Certainly hope he gets to fight that racist Cnut AJ anyway. He won’t last 6 rounds with Fury.
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      Reply #64: Apr 01, 2022 11:51:18 am
      Depression/ducking it's the same thing. He would have lost had he matched him again. Mental strength is part of the sport.

      He used AJ's name to promote himself, pretending he wanted the fight when he knew it wasn't going to happen.

      If he wants to retire and protect his health then that's a justifiable choice, but he cannot pretend he has a place in boxing history when he never faced the best fighters. Wilder has a rocket of a straight right, maybe the best since Hearns, but his technique is a complete joke. He's the worst Champion in history. If you can't see this I can't help you.

      Maybe Fury is the best of this generation, but he needs to prove it.

      Your post is an odd take on things in its entirety but your particular comments about depression belong in the bin.
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      Reply #65: Apr 01, 2022 06:42:32 pm
      You know what brought him out of his depression? Exercise!!!! Endorphin release. If he'd taken the fight he most likely would have avoided all that suffering.

      You're all shouting a lot but none of you have said why Wilder is an impressive scalp, and none of you have made the case that Fury has proven he's the best.
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      Reply #66: Apr 01, 2022 06:57:45 pm
      Sorry Isaac but Depression and ducking is far from the same thing.  ;D  What does Fury need to improv on since he has become world champion? He’s beaten everyone in front of him. Certainly hope he gets to fight that racist Cnut AJ anyway. He won’t last 6 rounds with Fury.

      You've really got to drop this racist bullshit. Was Malcolm X racist? Is Chuck D? When you've experienced violent abuse all your life maybe you could understand why some would choose to reject a mainstream society that condones and upholds it.
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      Reply #67: Apr 01, 2022 07:13:38 pm
      Also, I've actually thought about Fury's depression which I guess is more than most of you have. It was about existential meaninglessness, although he didn't phrase it that way, but he was quite eloquent about it. He'd got to the pinnacle of his sport, achieved the greatest thing possible for him, received very little recogniton and found the experience utterly empty. His depression was a recognition and understanding of the pointlesness of life, of achievement, of striving for anything. You can find this if you look at the interviews at the time, I remember especially the gloves off for the re-match. I understand and sympathise with his view.

      To put it another way it's like Sisyphus and pushing the boulder up the hill. Even if you manage it on the 500th attempt what have you got? It's a boulder on a hill.
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      Reply #68: Apr 01, 2022 08:51:07 pm
      holy crap its gone full weirdo on here.
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      Reply #69: Apr 01, 2022 09:37:56 pm
      holy crap its gone full weirdo on here.

      Great comment, added a lot. Thanks.
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      Reply #70: Apr 01, 2022 09:45:02 pm
      Great comment, added a lot. Thanks.

      in your head this may be a debate most of us are just stunned somewhat by your comments but carry on.
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      Reply #71: Apr 09, 2022 01:57:16 pm
      It's not that I dislike him, I'm ambivalent. He says very stupid things, and contradicts himself almost every time he speaks, yet he can also be wise and kind and the way he turned his life around is obviously admirable and inspirational to many. He ducked the re-match with Klitch, he's ducked AJ and now he's talking about finishing. He's unproven to me. And while your point about Wilder having a record is true, it's just that it's the worst record in history of heavyweight Champions. To anyone who knows anything about boxing the guy is a joke.

      Some of the early stuff for instance the homophobic shouts after he beat Klitschko could be attributed to the mental health issues he suffered.

      He's a character, as proven the way he went jogging around Noggsy and Crocky when his kid was in Alder Hey.
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      Reply #72: Apr 09, 2022 02:02:21 pm
      You know what brought him out of his depression? Exercise!!!! Endorphin release. If he'd taken the fight he most likely would have avoided all that suffering.

      You're all shouting a lot but none of you have said why Wilder is an impressive scalp, and none of you have made the case that Fury has proven he's the best.

      Tell us more then you f**king know it all wool!
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      Reply #73: Apr 09, 2022 08:29:25 pm
      Some of the early stuff for instance the homophobic shouts after he beat Klitschko could be attributed to the mental health issues he suffered.

      He's a character, as proven the way he went jogging around Noggsy and Crocky when his kid was in Alder Hey.

      he may think Noggsy and Crocky are the two security guards
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      Reply #74: Apr 09, 2022 09:38:59 pm
      Some of the early stuff for instance the homophobic shouts after he beat Klitschko could be attributed to the mental health issues he suffered.

      He's a character, as proven the way he went jogging around Noggsy and Crocky when his kid was in Alder Hey.

      I doubt his mental health issues had anything to do with that, but more the culture he was made in. As far as I know traveller communities are centred around male power, especially bare knuckle fighting power. To show weakness is anathema, and homosexuality is always associated with femininity in such cultures. So it's the worst slur and the worst thing to be in that environment. To his credit, I think he is trying to push through this in blundering ways while surrounded and advised by minds cemented in the 70's. Tyson has massive internal conflicts and responsibilities, and the more I think of him the more I sympathise.

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