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      Marko Grujic Player Thread (on loan at Hertha Berlin)

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      Robby The Z
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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #240: Jul 06, 2017 07:39:36 pm
      He missed A LOT of training and matches last season. Hopefully he can stay healthy and really build his fitness, confidence and cultivate the bright glimmers he's shown us in limited appearances.
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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #241: Jul 22, 2017 05:50:24 pm
      Not trying to get ahead of myself, but this lad has something very Gerrard-esque about him. Hope he'll get a good amount of game time next season, perhaps in cup competitions.
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      Reply #242: Jul 22, 2017 09:26:44 pm
      Not trying to get ahead of myself, but this lad has something very Gerrard-esque about him. Hope he'll get a good amount of game time next season, perhaps in cup competitions.

      I can't see it so far mate
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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #243: Jul 23, 2017 12:36:51 pm
      Take off the blindfold then. He's going to be a good player for us if he stays healthy.
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      Reply #244: Jul 23, 2017 12:38:56 pm
      Take off the blindfold then. He's going to be a good player for us if he stays healthy.


      Looks a very good prospect IMO.
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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #245: Jul 23, 2017 08:15:47 pm
      Not negativity my friend, reality.


      Nicely said.
      But i am not gonna change my mind until i see him play like he knows.

      Or just you talking sh*te lad!!

      I'd say give him a bit of time to settle into playing with the rest of our squad, seeing as he spent two thirds of last season on the treatment table.

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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #246: Sep 06, 2017 06:49:42 pm
      I think Marko may need a loan spell at a club where he can be the "main man" in order to really develop further.  For me, he has all the raw ingredients -- size, athleticism, power, technique, crisp passing, a powerful shot, and an eye for goal.  The problem is that he isn't quite consistent enough to get ahead of our current crop, but he needs games to continue his development.  I think he'd be a regular starter at a club like West Ham and he'd probably get a solid 10+ goals if he played regularly.  A season like that and he'd be ready to compete for a regular place again next year. 
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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #247: Sep 06, 2017 06:52:01 pm
      I think Marko may need a loan spell at a club where he can be the "main man" in order to really develop further.  For me, he has all the raw ingredients -- size, athleticism, power, technique, crisp passing, a powerful shot, and an eye for goal.  The problem is that he isn't quite consistent enough to get ahead of our current crop, but he needs games to continue his development.  I think he'd be a regular starter at a club like West Ham and he'd probably get a solid 10+ goals if he played regularly.  A season like that and he'd be ready to compete for a regular place again next year. 




      A bit surprised myself we have not loaned out any of our better prospects to Huddersfield seeing as they bought 11 players, he's Klopp's buddy and they are of no real threat to us.
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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #248: Sep 06, 2017 06:52:36 pm
      Or just you talking sh*te lad!!

      I'd say give him a bit of time to settle into playing with the rest of our squad, seeing as he spent two thirds of last season on the treatment table.

      Which also hampered his development.
      He's still only 21, plenty of time for the lad.
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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #249: Sep 07, 2017 07:54:14 am
      I think Marko may need a loan spell at a club where he can be the "main man" in order to really develop further.  For me, he has all the raw ingredients -- size, athleticism, power, technique, crisp passing, a powerful shot, and an eye for goal.  The problem is that he isn't quite consistent enough to get ahead of our current crop, but he needs games to continue his development.  I think he'd be a regular starter at a club like West Ham and he'd probably get a solid 10+ goals if he played regularly.  A season like that and he'd be ready to compete for a regular place again next year. 

      Loans don't work
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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #250: Sep 07, 2017 08:20:38 am
      Jürgen Klopp has addressed Marko Grujic’s knack for producing late challenges, insisting the Liverpool midfielder needed to avoid being “lazy.”

      The Serbian spent the majority of last season sidelined with a troubling hamstring injury, but returned to Klopp’s first-team squad for the closing stages.

      Grujic was criticised for a strong tackle that left Crystal Palace centre-back James Tomkins injured in May, and then picked up a suspension for two yellow cards at the summer’s European U21 Championship.

      Lining up for the Reds this pre-season, the 21-year-old provoked ire from Palace manager Frank de Boer for a lunge at Wilfried Zaha, with the Dutchman saying it was “not appropriate.”

      Addressing that challenge and Grujic’s questionable approach off the ball, Klopp agreed that this was a flaw in his game.

      “I didn’t see it properly at the time but I heard it could have been a red card,” he told the Liverpool Echo.


      “That’s not good. For Marko, it’s something that he has to change.

      “He’s a fantastic player, a really skilled boy. Tall, quick, talented footballing wise, all good.

      “But in these defensive situations, you always need to be early enough there so you are close enough to make a challenge and not a foul.”

      This is something Klopp is not only looking for Grujic to improve, using 18-year-old right-back Trent Alexander-Arnold as another example from training.

      While on the Reds’ tour of Hong Kong, Klopp said the youngster “defends like a kid and attacks like man,” and continued to relay this to the Echo.

      “I said it to the players after a session when we had a little situation with Divock [Origi] and Trent,” he added.

      “It’s about coming too late, switching off the machine, trying to sort a situation in which you were late in mind. I hate that.


      “When that happens you need to run, not foul. Make more steps, go, go, go. For me it’s always a bit lazy.”

      Grujic has found himself in the margins since making the £5.1 million move from Red Star Belgrade in 2016, but can hope for a strong campaign in 2017/18.

      The midfielder has clearly settled in well with the group, and particularly fellow Balkan duo Dejan Lovren and Lazar Markovic, after a year spent adjusting on Merseyside.

      But while he has proved his potential as a top-class midfielder, Grujic is clearly still a work in progress.

      https://www.thisisanfield.com/2017/07/jurgen-klopp-urges-marko-grujic-curb-lazy-defensive-approach/


      This is what Klopp had to say about Grujic.  And, it applies to TAA as well. I guess until he sorts this part of his game he may not be a regular starter or gain Klopp's confidence.
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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #251: Sep 07, 2017 03:37:33 pm

      Harry Kane disagrees....

      While most loans don't end with a player going back to break through at the parent club, I would suggest they are infinitely more successful than the alternative of the player staying put and not playing at all aside from reserve team matches.....
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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #252: Sep 07, 2017 05:19:39 pm
      Harry Kane disagrees....

      While most loans don't end with a player going back to break through at the parent club, I would suggest they are infinitely more successful than the alternative of the player staying put and not playing at all aside from reserve team matches.....

      Yea those 3 games at Norwich or 10 at Leicester really made him :p

      I value training with our first team and making 10 appearences off the bench way over a full season with 30 games at another club.

      The longer he trains with Klopp the better he'll be under his management
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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #253: Sep 07, 2017 09:05:20 pm
      How about Lukaku at West Brom, or Studge at Bolton?  Players need games to really improve, and with as many as 6 players currently ahead of him (Coutinho, Lallana, Hendo, Can, Gini, and Ox) he may not even get many games in the domestic cups.  Could even throw Milner into the mix of players ahead of Marko at the moment.  He looks a real talent.  I just hope it doesn't go to waste....
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      Reply #254: Sep 20, 2017 03:08:37 pm
      Had a chance to show something last night, but didn't.
      Many more performances like that it'll be door that's shown.
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      Reply #255: Sep 21, 2017 11:07:00 am
      Klopp is right about this lad. He is very ill disciplined and lazy off the ball. A total liability at the moment and if he can't figure it out for himself then he won't make it here or in any half decent team.
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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #256: Oct 24, 2017 12:47:48 pm
      Give the lad a chance already Jürgen.
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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #257: Oct 24, 2017 03:16:27 pm
      I've seen many shouts for Grujic to be given a chance in the forum, but I'm really not convinced he's good enough.
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      Reply #258: Oct 24, 2017 03:18:11 pm
      I've seen many shouts for Grujic to be given a chance in the forum, but I'm really not convinced he's good enough.

      That's also because we're sick of our midfielders who are ahead of him. Part of us are crying for some change.
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      Reply #259: Oct 24, 2017 03:19:53 pm
      That's also because we're sick of our midfielders who are ahead of him. Part of us are crying for some change.

      Yeah I understand that mate, and to be honest I haven't seen a whole lot of Grujic, but apart from the League Cup last season (Spurs I think?) when he got an assist if I'm not mistaken, he hasn't really impressed me much. If he played as our DM I think we'd be even worse defensively.
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      Reply #260: Oct 24, 2017 03:41:12 pm
      Yeah I understand that mate, and to be honest I haven't seen a whole lot of Grujic, but apart from the League Cup last season (Spurs I think?) when he got an assist if I'm not mistaken, he hasn't really impressed me much. If he played as our DM I think we'd be even worse defensively.

      Have you watched him in the U23's playing in the no 6 role mate?

      He sure looks a player to me.

      What have we got to lose at this stage we're a mess as it is we'll be out of the top 4 race soon if we continue as we're going why not give him a game or two to show his worth?
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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #261: Oct 24, 2017 03:48:06 pm
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF7iUc0PmFg

      Not sure what his main role in midfield is, but vs Utd, he was playing as the #6, and he sure as hell showed he can shift the ball from deep. Also looks very composed.

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      Reply #262: Oct 24, 2017 04:01:09 pm
      Yeah I understand that mate, and to be honest I haven't seen a whole lot of Grujic, but apart from the League Cup last season (Spurs I think?) when he got an assist if I'm not mistaken, he hasn't really impressed me much. If he played as our DM I think we'd be even worse defensively.

      Don't get the calls for him to play either. So far he has only looked promising in friendlies. He has looked very average in every cup game / league game I've seen him play in. Too erratic, too many unnecessary fouls. Not writing the lad off of course, he has everything to become a really good player, just has to cut out the little moments of madness. Throwing him in our current midfield would only make matters worse I think.

      Have you watched him in the U23's playing in the no 6 role mate?

      He sure looks a player to me.

      What have we got to lose at this stage we're a mess as it is we'll be out of the top 4 race soon if we continue as we're going why not give him a game or two to show his worth?

      I did watch him for U23's yesterday and was pretty surprised to see him in the #6 role. I think under Klopp that's where his future is. I don't see him as an #8 in our midfield. Big difference being that he clearly just bossed the United players around because of how big and strong he is, he doesn't have that advantage when playing in the PL. As Diego said, it'd be stupid to put the young lad in as a #6 in the first team. His positioning still needs a lot of work and that's one of the main issues in the current midfield. Putting him there won't solve anything. Plus he's a card magnet, you can't have that as a #6 in our system. I agree that he does look a player though, he's still very raw and young, but a lot of very positive things about his overall play (great passing range from deep, good shot, natural tackler, ...)
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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #263: Oct 24, 2017 04:51:41 pm
      Dude was ill yesterday,http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/academy/279232-how-marko-grujic-overcame-illness-to-influence-u23s-win.Makes his effort more impressive.
                                                       As far as first team,Huddersfield might be too soon,i wouldn't have a problem if he did play but why not the Maribor game?
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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #264: Oct 24, 2017 06:00:54 pm
      As far as first team,Huddersfield might be too soon,i wouldn't have a problem if he did play but why not the Maribor game?

      That's a good shout!!! Would also love to see Woodburn or Wilson start too  :D
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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #265: Nov 20, 2017 01:29:56 am
      Still feel this fella needs one more loan move at a proper club in order for him to develop properly.
      Love to see him go out in January, for 6 months, to a team in the Premier League where he can play week in week out at this leagues level of intensity.
      Think he desperately needs it.
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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #266: Nov 26, 2017 10:18:39 pm
      Probably best thing for him as he is going to improve by playing with the U23's

      BTW I still insist he is better than Milner as a CM......

      https://twitter.com/LivEchoLFC/status/934899089778626560
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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #267: Nov 26, 2017 10:22:18 pm
      Good idea as long its the right club, not convinced he will make it , hope i am wrong
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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #268: Nov 26, 2017 10:22:47 pm
      Christ Henderson still playing and sh*t he must thinking klopp only pick players out loyalty
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      Re: Marko Grujic Player Thread
      Reply #269: Nov 28, 2017 03:47:11 am
      As some one above said, great to loan him out BUT only to the right club.
      I would want to keep him in the premiership and hopefully loan him to a team where he wouod get a lot of games.

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