Steven Caulker - QPR

Joyce is as solid as they come.

https://twitter.com/pjoyceexpress/status/686839156866183168

Edit: Apologies, can a kind mod amend the title of the thread. Should have said QPR. Cheers.

Article. would have done properly but I'm late and on phone:

https://twitter.com/pjoyceexpress/status/686839173429489664

Good player, would prefer him to Skrtel next to Lovren/Sakho.

Not a good player. Hasn't made the cut in his career wherever he has been. Prefer him to Skrtel? No chance.

We've apparently signed him on a season long loan!

Just another body in case of another injury crisis at the back.

Otherwise he is pretty sh*te.

I don't like this at all. He's so sh*t.

One of them players with all the tools but not the ability. He's pacey enough but he's a bit of a liability. He doesn't have the desire of someone like a Carra or a Terry to keep the ball out of his net.

One of them players with all the tools but not the ability. He's pacey enough but he's a bit of a liability. He doesn't have the desire of someone like a Carra or a Terry to keep the ball out of his net.

His positioning is terrible too. Most of the time during the game against us he should have been in certain positions to cut plays out but he was all over the place.

Hummels, Subotic and we end with him...AAAAAAAAAAA

Shitte average player. 

Awful.

Caulker?
Nice.

Signing Klopp and not getting him the right players is like having Alonso and Button and giving them a Honda engine.

Weren't we in for him a few years ago when he was at Spurs? I'm sure we were

FSG showing truly massive ambition here. Jürgen might as well clean his boots and play himself

Caulker?
Nice.

Signing Klopp and not getting him the right players is like having Alonso and Button and giving them a Honda engine.

LOVE the comparison

Come on lads. They even gave Kenny money to splash in January when they came to the club. If Caulker is the only viable option on loan i would imagine a lot of the other options aren't available.

Hummels, Subotic and we end with him...AAAAAAAAAAA

Shitte average player. 

Hummels? When were we ever linked with him?

Caulker?
Nice.

Signing Klopp and not getting him the right players is like having Alonso and Button and giving them a Honda engine.

Why are Xabi Alonso and David Button driving Keisuke Honda around?

The idea will be to get a player in who will be happy to play from the bench once everyone is fit. The only players who will move under those conditions is a player who isn't getting game time at a lower club.

Lets hope he doesn't have to play a game for us...

He looked good couple years back when he was on loan at Swansea and a few times I saw him play with Spuds.

Didn't see him at all last season but from what I hear he was sh*te for QPR.

So maybe he isn't as good as I thought he was.

Chill out we're signing this guy as cover so we don't have to spend on a new CB as we're getting Matip on a free in the summer!

Caulkers a stop gap, and not the worst cover to have. If Lovren and Sakho are fit he won't even play!

If he were that good a player, why is he struggling for game time?
Wouldn't top teams be be all over him?
I suggest he's not good enough for QPR so they let him go out on loan. He isn't good enough for his current Saints team hence amount of games played.

#LFC want Steven Caulker in time to face Arsenal - and may even train with Reds today

Definitely coming in as a cheap back up, hopefully just saving the cash until summer. No real reason to blow the bank in January on overpriced crap.

We've got 15 minutes to register him apparently for him to play against Arsenal (or be named on the bench).

Why are Xabi Alonso and David Button driving Keisuke Honda around?

I don't know but if they could make it to Melwood this month that would be great.

Imo the only criteria is, whether he is better than the CB options we currently have available.
Current options are Ilori/Enrique/Can/Lucas
We'd miss Can and Lucas in the middle if played in as CBs, so ideally rule them out
Leaves Ilori/Enrique
Enrique is slow and not a recognised CB
Leaves Ilori
Who didn't look great at Exeter.
So I'd go for it and hope Jürgen can help him reclaim some for earlier in career.
It's only a loan.

On loan to the summer while Jürgen can focus on the targets he really wants.

I don't see the problem.

Imo the only criteria is, whether he is better than the CB options we currently have available.
Current options are Ilori/Enrique/Can/Lucas
We'd miss Can and Lucas in the middle if played in as CBs, so ideally rule them out
Leaves Ilori/Enrique
Enrique is slow and not a recognised CB
Leaves Ilori
Who didn't look great at Exeter.
So I'd go for it and hope Jürgen can help him reclaim some for earlier in career.
It's only a loan.

If it comes down to our options, we have none.
We literally had no fit 1st team CBs.
That's why Ilori was brought back.

So given that sure bring him in on loan,
but why is that the only option?

Maybe I'm just equating it to what we've seen before
but it raises red flags for me.

If it comes down to our options, we have none.
We literally had no fit 1st team CBs.
That's why Ilori was brought back.

So given that sure bring him in on loan,
but why is that the only option?

Maybe I'm just equating it to what we've seen before
but it raises red flags for me.

Like I said Racer, and I'm only guessing, I think its possible the manager can't tie down a CB he really wants and who he sees as an upgrade on what we have.

A loan to the summer while we focus on signing the CB he really wants isn't too bad a move short term.

Sounds like our plan was Subotic, we got knocked back by Dortmund so our back up is Caulker...

Not exactly players you would put in the same bracket, are we that desperate to get a body, any body in for the Arsenal game?

I know it's only a loan but it does seem a little bit like scraping the bottle of the barrel if this goes through and doesn't make me too comfortable with future transfer plans for Jürgen.

I mean seriously does anyone think Jürgen said "get me Caulker", I doubt he has any clue who the lad is let alone want to have him in a crisis as the man to call upon.

Is he a goal-scoring centre back?

Got to see this loan as Jürgen doesn't think llori is ready to play as CB if needed.

Sounds like our plan was Subotic, we got knocked back by Dortmund so our back up is Caulker...

Not exactly players you would put in the same bracket, are we that desperate to get a body, any body in for the Arsenal game?

I know it's only a loan but it does seem a little bit like scraping the bottle of the barrel if this goes through and doesn't make me too comfortable with future transfer plans for Jürgen.

I mean seriously does anyone think Jürgen said "get me Caulker", I doubt he has any clue who the lad is let alone want to have him in a crisis as the man to call upon.

Just out of interest the mate.

What would you do in this scenario?

So given that sure bring him in on loan,
but why is that the only option?

Think Lovren has improved recently, and maybe him and Sahko might displace Skyrtel and do well eventually.
And there is also Toure who is a good guy to fill in also.
Actually think we have decent CB options ... when everyone fit that is.

We're in an unprecedented situation with injuries. Maybe Jürgen/club don't want to be rushed into spending over the odds for a top CB in the window, just due to temporary circumstances.

If people think we need to sign a better CB than any of the ones we already have (regardless of injuries), that's a different thing, and it looks like that is not going to happen.

Will probably get horrible Suarez flashbacks when he arrives.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-kniAWL8cs

Just out of interest the mate.

What would you do in this scenario?

I get we need cover mate so signing someone is a must, when it gets to the point that Lucas is seriously being considered as a starting CB then we know we're at a point of crisis.

Having said that I just can't see Caulker being the best available, I honestly think we've done it again like the Sanchez situation. We've put all our eggs in that basket and then become desperate and rang around to see whatever is available we'll have it.

I don't follow enough footy to know a team with 4 decent CBs who are out of cup competitions and therefore not heavily reliant on back up but there must be some out there. Or even very promising youngster with a top club that needs game time, Caulker seems weak as an option to be bringing in.

To me there's probably more merit in promoting one of our own youth players or sticking Can back there (who admittedly was pretty poor at RB but I think would be a better CB).

I get we need cover mate so signing someone is a must, when it gets to the point that Lucas is seriously being considered as a starting CB then we know we're at a point of crisis.

Having said that I just can't see Caulker being the best available, I honestly think we've done it again like the Sanchez situation. We've put all our eggs in that basket and then become desperate and rang around to see whatever is available we'll have it.

I don't follow enough footy to know a team with 4 decent CBs who are out of cup competitions and therefore not heavily reliant on back up but there must be some out there. Or even very promising youngster with a top club that needs game time, Caulker seems weak as an option to be bringing in.

To me there's probably more merit in promoting one of our own youth players or sticking Can back there (who admittedly was pretty poor at RB but I think would be a better CB).

For me if it means were not throwing money to sign a CB permanently that the boss isn't overly keen on then I think it is a good solution.

If this move meant Jürgen got his man in the summer who was better than all the CB we have then its a worthwhile exercise.

Couple of things. Firstly I cannot even imagine the reaction if we'd signed Steven Caulker on loan last January, it would have been a sea of mouth froth on here.

Secondly, this lads "refuelling" activities and behaviour while he's doing it aren't great. Something to watch out for.

I get we need cover mate so signing someone is a must, when it gets to the point that Lucas is seriously being considered as a starting CB then we know we're at a point of crisis.

Having said that I just can't see Caulker being the best available, I honestly think we've done it again like the Sanchez situation. We've put all our eggs in that basket and then become desperate and rang around to see whatever is available we'll have it.

I don't follow enough footy to know a team with 4 decent CBs who are out of cup competitions and therefore not heavily reliant on back up but there must be some out there. Or even very promising youngster with a top club that needs game time, Caulker seems weak as an option to be bringing in.

To me there's probably more merit in promoting one of our own youth players or sticking Can back there (who admittedly was pretty poor at RB but I think would be a better CB).

We have been seriously linked with Matip but like a lot of targets it's not so easy to pull off during the January Window.

So Jürgen thinks a stop gap is the best approach rather than wasting money on a player who will never be a regular.

Couple of things. Firstly I cannot even imagine the reaction if we'd signed Steven Caulker on loan last January, it would have been a sea of mouth froth on here.

Secondly, this lads "refuelling" activities and behaviour while he's doing it aren't great. Something to watch out for.

It's a sea of mouth froth on twitter.
I guess that's what happens when you hope for Subotic/Hummels and end up with Caulker.

For me if it means were not throwing money to sign a CB permanently that the boss isn't overly keen on then I think it is a good solution.

If this move meant Jürgen got his man in the summer who was better than all the CB we have then its a worthwhile exercise.

We have been seriously linked with Matip but like a lot of targets it's not so easy to pull off during the January Window.

So Jürgen thinks a stop gap is the best approach rather than wasting money on a player who will never be a regular.

Get your point lads about a stop gap, and of course that's what we all see this as right now but even judging it purely on that I would be surprised if this is truly the best we could have done.

Really does smack of poor planning again, to me it says Subotic or bust much like it was Sanchez or bust, we just never seem to plan for things not going our way and they often don't go our way. You'd have thought we'd learned our lesson in that department.

It's a sea of mouth froth on twitter.
I guess that's what happens when you hope for Subotic/Hummels and end up with Caulker.

I thought it would be mate. That said to me it's a very sensible move. If it's the case that we can't get the player or players we really want, lets take someone who is better than what we've got available. Now Caulker has to be better than both Enrique and Ilori to make the move worth it. Enrique never was a centre back and judging on the other night never will be either. Ilori has the distinction of in one appearance managing to completely dispel the nonsense we've had to read for 18 months about how the previous manager was a mug for letting him go on loan, and how every other manager he had were mugs for not playing him. We've now seen with our own eyes why he wasn't getting a game, and we need somebody credible.

Caulker isn't exactly Alan Hansen, but he isn't a bad player by any means. My only misgivings are about his extra curricular activities, and I aren't guessing or basing my assessment on Daily Mail stories here either.   

Get your point lads about a stop gap, and of course that's what we all see this as right now but even judging it purely on that I would be surprised if this is truly the best we could have done.

Really does smack of poor planning again, to me it says Subotic or bust much like it was Sanchez or bust, we just never seem to plan for things not going our way and they often don't go our way. You'd have thought we'd learned our lesson in that department.

Lovren is due to be back in a couple of games and the fact that Subotic has not played much this season may have been a factor.

I used to think he was fairly promising when he was on loan to Swansea, but hasn't paid much attention to him ever since... that he's been to Cardiff and now QPR suggest he isn't up to the standards we would expect. That said he is still 24 and I got no idea what goes on in Klopp's head

backup to play in cups when 1st choice cbs are injured. like Friday.

Caulker isn't exactly Alan Hansen, but he isn't a bad player by any means. My only misgivings are about his extra curricular activities, and I aren't guessing or basing my assessment on Daily Mail stories here either.

Tut tut tut, isn't that landlord / client privilege?

Is he better than our current CB's ? Who knows in the long run.

Is he better than our current CB's now? YES because they are all injured.

Makes sense to me this does as another poster has said if Lucas is the back up then we are in trouble.

He's absolutely shocking. Positionally even worse than Skrtel. Not great on the ball and by all accounts a sh*te attitude to match. We've really outdone ourselves here. Don't care that it's only on loan, he's a terrible defender.

have we come to this as a club.no Striker with the name available and no CB's either so we go to the championship to seek a loan.
Its mind-blowingly poor management by the club and you can blame whoever you want but we are in a terrible mess as we find ourselves in the middle of a really important part of the season. How can a CB from a poor championship side possible be considered as an option and worse as a loan deal.

Is this now done ?. its being widely reported.

Its done. Can't believe...We become really mid table club.

Is this now done ?. its being widely reported.

Ben Smith ‏@BSmith  3m3 minutes ago
Caulker has joined in time to be part of the #LFC squad to play #AFC

 Ben Smith ‏@BSmith  4m4 minutes ago
#LFC complete the signing of Steven Caulker on loan until the end of the season

That's the point that I believe it's rubbered stamped mate, yeah.

Seems like he might even make his debut for us tomorrow, scary sh*t.

Is he a goal-scoring centre back?

Yeah he's a threat. Only issue is he's a threat at both ends.

How can a CB from a poor championship side possible be considered as an option and worse as a loan deal.

You'd rather we signed him permanently then?

Or buy a player the manager isn't filly convinced by just for the sake of it?

You'd rather we signed him permanently then?

Or buy a player the manager isn't filly convinced by just for the sake of it?

so your one of the mediocrity signings are ok then as long as he is still breathing. We should not be in this position as a club we have an academy and we have a scouting system and we end up with Caulker.

Well, Sky were reporting we'd signed him, now they are saying we are in talks. Can't say I'm over the moon, and don't understand anyone saying he's better than Skirtel!
Don't know much about him, but what I've read doesn't fill me with confidence.
Hopefully it's all smoke and mirrors to disguise the fact we're negotiating to sign Pique. 

relegated with qpr
relegated with cardiff
deemed not good enough for soton squad.

and will likely start tomorrow v arsenal

only liverpool 

so your one of the mediocrity signings are ok then as long as he is still breathing. We should not be in this position as a club we have an academy and we have a scouting system and we end up with Caulker.

We've signed plenty of players from lower leagues over the decades who have went on to represent the club admirably Walt.

Its a F***ing short term loan so stop going on that its the end of the world.

so your one of the mediocrity signings are ok then as long as he is still breathing. We should not be in this position as a club we have an academy and we have a scouting system and we end up with Caulker.

We have an amazing Academy Walt but like with the seniors all our more experienced CBs are injured too.  This is nothing to do with where we are as a Club, this is due to an unprecedented amount of injuries to our defenders. 

And before you take another swipe at the Club or our training methods, all of them were injured whilst out on loan.

This is a f**king joke, is it 1st April already ?

I'd rather have an injured Lovren just standing like a pole in our defence than this guy, Titus Bramble mk2.

Why not try promoting a young player ?

So people don't think this is a Caulker of a signing. 

The transfer committee strikes again 

he couldn't get a game for Southampton apparently but he is ok for us. Have we just improved the quality of our squad or just added a body.
Is this how we now do our business . What is the point of our academy ?

The transfer committee strikes again 

He was targeted by Brendan apparently so we must have info on him