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      Steven Caulker (Former Loanee)

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      Re: Steven Caulker -Player thread
      Reply #30: Jan 12, 2016 02:03:58 pm
      Welcome Steven! I don't mind this loan signing. We are in a very unpredictable injury crisis, in which he will provide a lifeline for the time being. Best case scenario, he steps in to play a few games until Sakho, Lovren and Skrtel regain their fitness and then he is left out to dry. Why spend money on a player who is mediocre at best (as is Caulker) and will only fall third-fourth choice behind our already existing CB's? Save the money now, and then spend on the exact guy we want in the summer. And if Caulker surprises and does very well, we can sign him.
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      Reply #31: Jan 12, 2016 02:10:05 pm
      Just checked his wiki page and I see he played for Southampton in a Europa qualifier last summer, does that mean he's cup tied or don't the qualifiers count?

      Anybody know the rules?
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      Re: Steven Caulker -Player thread
      Reply #32: Jan 12, 2016 02:10:30 pm
      what actually convinced klopp he'd be a good signing? did the TC show him youtube clips of him when he was at swansea 4 years ago?
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      Reply #33: Jan 12, 2016 02:16:39 pm
      top man he has an eye for goal then.

      Tidy finish that, Raheem fairly pinged it at him, did well to cushion it with the outside of the boot, natural :p
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      Re: Steven Caulker -Player thread
      Reply #34: Jan 12, 2016 02:17:31 pm
      Only makes sense if no one was available - and to be honest, no good defender is being linked with anyone right now so the market looks barren dry - so to get a short term option in that is English and knows the league seems logical.

      Good luck to him. Showed promise early in his career but looked sh*te ever since. Fingers crossed Klopp slaps him back to his senses. 
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      Re: Steven Caulker -Player thread
      Reply #35: Jan 12, 2016 02:19:23 pm
      Would have preferred Can or Ilori as our CB covers with us playing one of the kids in midfield, but whatever. Good luck to Caulker, hope he proves the majority of us wrong.
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      Reply #36: Jan 12, 2016 02:20:50 pm
      what actually convinced klopp he'd be a good signing? did the TC show him youtube clips of him when he was at swansea 4 years ago?

      You do our Manager a huge disservice with those comments mate. 
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      Re: Steven Caulker -Player thread
      Reply #37: Jan 12, 2016 02:21:04 pm
      Judging by peoples' posts he's no Franco Baresi then.

      Oh well.

      wait, watch & hope.
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      Reply #38: Jan 12, 2016 02:32:01 pm
      Judging by peoples' posts he's no Franco Baresi then.

      Oh well.

      wait, watch & hope.

      I think "hope" is the key word mate and I am concerned that people are now happy for us to sign players "hoping" they will be ok.
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      Reply #39: Jan 12, 2016 02:33:09 pm
      Well hopefully that means I never have to watch Enrique play CB ever again,
      or anywhere for that matter.
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      Reply #40: Jan 12, 2016 02:37:04 pm
      Well hopefully that means I never have to watch Enrique play CB ever again,
      or anywhere for that matter.

      what was that Sean Connery Bond film "never say never again"?.
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      Reply #41: Jan 12, 2016 02:48:30 pm
      I think "hope" is the key word mate and I am concerned that people are now happy for us to sign players "hoping" they will be ok.

      "People" obviously including Jürgen as he said quite clearly that he has the last word on transfers, so he must be "happy" with this one. Are you "concerned" about Jürgen, or just the people that trust him enough not to have a fit that he's signed Steven Caulker?   
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      Reply #42: Jan 12, 2016 02:53:45 pm
      If he's come to be cover while others are injured with an option for a cheap transfer i'll be happy. I think he will be good 3rd or 4th choice but nothing more.
      You must remember it was either Caulker or Lovren being eyed up by us for £20Mil.
      Looks like we got the better of the 2 so if we can get caulker for next to nout we'll be laughing
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      Reply #43: Jan 12, 2016 02:54:42 pm
      If he's come to be cover while others are injured with an option for a cheap transfer i'll be happy. I think he will be good 3rd or 4th choice but nothing more.
      You must remember it was either Caulker or Lovren being eyed up by us for £20Mil.
      Looks like we got the better of the 2 so if we can get caulker for next to nout we'll be laughing

      The last thing we need is someone coming in here spouting common sense on this slow news day!
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      Reply #44: Jan 12, 2016 02:59:48 pm
      what actually convinced klopp he'd be a good signing? did the TC show him youtube clips of him when he was at swansea 4 years ago?

      Jürgen said he has first and last say on transfers.

      He's here because the manager gave it the green light.

      Probably because be lives in the real world and knows managing a football club isn't like selecting a side on Fifa 16.
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      Reply #45: Jan 12, 2016 03:05:34 pm
      Weren't we actually on the verge of a full blown transfer with this guy when he was at Cardiff a couple of years back? We were probably going to spend £18m on him if the TC had their way so it's good to see him relegated to short term loan option. It is kind of sensible as an emergency loan deal (when was the last one - Paul Jones in as GK for a couple of matches back in 2004?). A slow, has been Enrique who's not played for over a year playing at centre back is NEVER tolerable! Don't expect to be seeing him at the club in the long run. 
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      Reply #46: Jan 12, 2016 03:06:21 pm
      Jürgen said he has first and last say on transfers.

      He's here because the manager gave it the green light.

      Probably because be lives in the real world and knows managing a football club isn't like selecting a side on Fifa 16.

      Who would have thunk it Si? The number of players who are actually available, who teams are actually prepared to let go in January are severely limited? Who would have thunk that the owners (or whoever is advising them) would say "hang on, you've got Sakho, Lovren and Skrtel who would get in most Premiership teams (nearly all in fact, all in the case of Lovren) as well as this Matip bloke arriving at the end of the season". Who would have thought that they'd say to the committee/Jürgen "best you find someone who we don't have to pay a fee for". It's incredible really.   

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      Reply #47: Jan 12, 2016 03:06:25 pm
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      Re: Steven Caulker -Player thread
      Reply #48: Jan 12, 2016 03:09:14 pm
      Welcome Caulker, we need good cover and he can do it. Hope, he is off a flyer and can compete for his place after the others are back.
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      Reply #49: Jan 12, 2016 03:11:59 pm
      Weren't we actually on the verge of a full blown transfer with this guy when he was at Cardiff a couple of years back? We were probably going to spend £18m on him if the TC had their way so it's good to see him relegated to short term loan option. It is kind of sensible as an emergency loan deal (when was the last one - Paul Jones in as GK for a couple of matches back in 2004?). A slow, has been Enrique who's not played for over a year playing at centre back is NEVER tolerable! Don't expect to be seeing him at the club in the long run.

      Yeah as I said a few posts up it was between him and Lovren....funnily enough it seems Lovren was the better of the 2!
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      Reply #50: Jan 12, 2016 03:17:40 pm
      Only makes sense if no one was available - and to be honest, no good defender is being linked with anyone right now so the market looks barren dry - so to get a short term option in that is English and knows the league seems logical.

      Good luck to him. Showed promise early in his career but looked sh*te ever since. Fingers crossed Klopp slaps him back to his senses. 

      Pretty much where I'm at with this one Crouch.
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      Reply #51: Jan 12, 2016 03:25:05 pm
      couple of concerns
      1. We have a transfer committee and multiple full time scouts.  Surely there must be more than 1 CB's that we have 'on the books' that we are looking at that we could have made a long term bid for.
      2. If we didn't do that what are they doing? why wouldn't we do that? do we not have the money?



      on the plus side
      hes only 24, which im surprised about seems like he's been around forever
      which means he could possibly improve. If we were signing a 28/29 year old at his current level i'd be more pissed
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      Reply #52: Jan 12, 2016 03:32:49 pm
      couple of concerns
      1. We have a transfer committee and multiple full time scouts.  Surely there must be more than 1 CB's that we have 'on the books' that we are looking at that we could have made a long term bid for.
      2. If we didn't do that what are they doing? why wouldn't we do that? do we not have the money?



      on the plus side
      hes only 24, which im surprised about seems like he's been around forever
      which means he could possibly improve. If we were signing a 28/29 year old at his current level i'd be more pissed

      We have identified a CB for the long term but his club wouldn't let him leave in January mate.
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      Reply #53: Jan 12, 2016 03:33:31 pm
      I think Caulker may surprise 1 or 2 of us, some players crumble or rise playing for LFC, I think Caulker has enough around him to settle pretty quickly especially the old Southampton boys.

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      Reply #54: Jan 12, 2016 03:33:36 pm
      We have identified a CB for the long term but his club wouldn't let him leave in January mate.

      Klopp in October: "You have to look at which players are reachable and not dream of this player or that player..."
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      Reply #55: Jan 12, 2016 03:35:04 pm
      Without even seeing him recently I'd hazard a guess he's a hell of a lot better than Jose, Can and Lucas at CB and more experienced than Ilori.

      If we'd spent a fortune on him and given him a 5 year contract I'd be more concerned.

      Short term loan deal is a good move.

      SPOT ON.

      seen way too much negativity on forums and twitter already. christs sake calm down people, its a short term loan, its win win, for all round, we need an extra CB, and he need's a break.

      Never know could work out a brilliant deal all round.
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      Reply #56: Jan 12, 2016 03:35:12 pm

      ... and don't let the door hit you on the way out :)

      Well, whatever potential he has, hope he shows it, and whatever sh*t form he's had, hope he leaves it behind

      Just please don't turn into the Bogdan of the back four :f_bluelight:
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      Reply #57: Jan 12, 2016 03:37:40 pm
      Klopp in October: "You have to look at which players are reachable and not dream of this player or that player..."

      Exactly mate.  We tried to get Subotic on loan, no joy.  We tried to get Matip earlier than summer but his club said no. 

      I went to bed last night without this even being a figment of our imagination, wake up this morning and he's signed, sealed, delivered and raring to go for tomorrows game. 

      Way to go Liverpool for sorting out an immediate need in less than 24 hours.
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      Re: Steven Caulker -Player thread
      Reply #58: Jan 12, 2016 04:10:03 pm
      Wow, didn't see this one coming at all. FWIW, Caulker did look pretty solid a few years ago but has since seemed to buckle under any pressure or hype and become a bit of a calamity. I reckon he'll be a decent 3rd/4th choice CB for the time being.

      Also, shout out to all the people pointing out the dry market for CBs so far. It doesn't seem like anyone is signing them, so our options may have been severely limited.
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      Reply #59: Jan 12, 2016 04:17:31 pm
      Paul Joyce is flying with this one today.

      https://twitter.com/pjoyceexpress/status/686940795237232640

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