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      Joel Matip Player Thread

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      PGlynn91
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #400: Dec 13, 2018 10:40:38 am
      In The January window bring in Tarkowski from Burnley, we can't afford to f**k about, Gomez, Matip Leaves Lovren, and VVD, and the latter is suspended for the first game of the knockout stages of the CL, will Gomez or Matip be back for that...??

      Yeah both out for six weeks. Gomez should be back by end of January latest.
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      Reply #401: Dec 13, 2018 10:43:54 am
      In The January window bring in Tarkowski from Burnley, we can't afford to f**k about, Gomez, Matip Leaves Lovren, and VVD, and the latter is suspended for the first game of the knockout stages of the CL, will Gomez or Matip be back for that...??

      And then when they are all fit ?!

      Klopp isn’t going to blow a load of money on a CB
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      Reply #402: Dec 13, 2018 10:52:04 am
      And then when they are all fit ?!

      Klopp isn’t going to blow a load of money on a CB
      think we need 5 CB to be honest. We have VVD, Gomez, Matip and Lovren... 4  CB is okay for non European competing teams. I think TAA can double up as a centre back, but we'd need somebody to cover RB... Wonder if Fabinho can go RB and TAA CB?
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      Reply #403: Dec 13, 2018 11:31:55 am
      leaves us with little or no cover for CB and Jürgen will address this even if its for a loan deal we have to have cover and not a makeshift player who can play there  it has to be a specialist CB. I am sure Jürgen is on to this already.
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      Reply #404: Dec 13, 2018 11:55:08 am
      think we need 5 CB to be honest. We have VVD, Gomez, Matip and Lovren... 4  CB is okay for non European competing teams. I think TAA can double up as a centre back, but we'd need somebody to cover RB... Wonder if Fabinho can go RB and TAA CB?

      Other way around. TAA would get crucified at CB.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #405: Dec 13, 2018 01:22:23 pm
      And then when they are all fit ?!

      Klopp isn’t going to blow a load of money on a CB

      Are they ever all fit though?

      I don't think he needs to blow a load of money but I'd certainly be looking for a good player that can be a starter if need be and maybe even push Joe/Joel/Dejan.

      You have to think too, Joe and Joel's injury time missed estimates could grow depending on complications, etc....

      We need cover at CB, I think Klopp is going to have to at least consider a transfer.
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      Reply #406: Dec 13, 2018 01:24:52 pm
      Are they ever all fit though?

      I don't think he needs to blow a load of money but I'd certainly be looking for a good player that can be a starter if need be and maybe even push Joe/Joel/Dejan.

      You have to think too, Joe and Joel's injury time missed estimates could grow depending on complications, etc....

      We need cover at CB, I think Klopp is going to have to at least consider a transfer.

      The problem is finding someone who has the quality but won’t break the bank and is prepared to be second choice etc.

      Or he goes with Phillips ( think he has a niggle at the moment )
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      Reply #407: Dec 14, 2018 06:35:26 pm
      And then when they are all fit ?!

      Klopp isn’t going to blow a load of money on a CB

      Declan Rice hasnt signed a new contract which is up in the summer. Might be worth it tbh.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #408: Dec 14, 2018 07:24:56 pm
      Aw for f**k sake. Was just feeling reassured after Tuesday about the fact we've got decent cover for Gomez. How long is Matip likely to be out?

      [See it is 6 weeks, like Joe. 6 weeks of Lovren. And 6 weeks of worrying that Lovren might get injured. And 6 weeks of absolutely shitting it that VVD might get injured!]

      Boyata wants to leave Celtic, I understand.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #409: Dec 14, 2018 08:43:28 pm
      It is a shame for him who put in a couple of good performance over the last week and would have got a run of game over the next month with Gomez being out and the heavy fixture list to try and put himself up the depth chart. Player like Matip who are down the depth chart do need to take their chances when given opportunity to get playing time which makes the timing of the injury for himself and the club so unfortunate. It would be hard to see us signing a CB for cover unless it is a loan deal but the market for a good CB on loan is pretty thin I would think so fingers crossed Lovern/VvD keep fit over the next month.   
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #410: Dec 14, 2018 09:50:57 pm
      alternativley a youth player could get his big chance? conor masterson?
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #411: Dec 14, 2018 11:23:57 pm
      leaves us with little or no cover for CB and Jürgen will address this even if its for a loan deal we have to have cover and not a makeshift player who can play there  it has to be a specialist CB. I am sure Jürgen is on to this already.
      Hope so
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #412: Dec 15, 2018 01:58:40 pm
      some here is keen on Jamaal Lascelles, and failing getting Tarkowski from Burnley he would be my second choice, and may well prove easier to acquirer given Ashley's attempted to bleed the club of money
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      Reply #413: Jan 05, 2019 08:48:17 pm
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #414: Feb 01, 2019 09:10:16 am
      Did a lot right against Leicester but yet I never feel confident with him defending.

      Such a timid player for such a big lad - “Gentle Giant” never has there been a truer description of a player.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #415: Feb 01, 2019 09:34:38 am
      Did a lot right against Leicester but yet I never feel confident with him defending.

      Such a timid player for such a big lad - “Gentle Giant” never has there been a truer description of a player.

      He's a decent enough deputy, but I miss Big Joe next to Virgil.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #416: Feb 01, 2019 10:20:16 am
      Did a lot right against Leicester but yet I never feel confident with him defending.

      Such a timid player for such a big lad - “Gentle Giant” never has there been a truer description of a player.

      This is spot on

      He played well against Leicester... but there was something about his performance
      He lacks aggression and assertiveness

      Gentle giant is spot on

      Don't dislike him and I think for a lot of the years say between 2010 and 2017 he'd have probably been our first choice and we'd be lording him.. but for a title winning starter? Not at that level.. Not at Virgil or Joe's level

      Id happily keep him around but I think he would want to start so I imagine  he'll move on in the summer
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      Reply #417: Feb 04, 2019 11:57:59 am
      Gentle giant for sure. I like Matip for the reason that he somehow carries a bigger goal threat than Virgil, he seems to get onto alot more in the box similar to Lovren. What i also like is that he looks far more natural stepping out of defence with the ball than Lovren and miles ahead of somebody like Sakho.
      Unfortunately for both him and Lovren, the young Joe Gomez is a level above them both at CB at present.

      I hope Matip remains fit and injury free until the end of the season, coz we are gonna need him.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #418: Feb 05, 2019 09:01:55 am
      Number of times he got caught flat footed because he charged in to make a challenge.
      Sooner he goes back to 4th choice the better.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #419: Feb 05, 2019 10:13:44 am
      He's an ok squad player option that's about it.

      4th choice for sure.

      Hopefully replaced with a better CB in the Summer.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #420: Feb 05, 2019 10:56:01 am
      I actually admired his forward runs... that’s just about it..
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #421: Feb 05, 2019 11:06:17 am
      I actually admired his forward runs... that’s just about it..

      Only player that broke the line all night mate.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #422: Feb 05, 2019 09:56:46 pm
      I think I'd rather have Lovren out of the 2.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #423: Feb 05, 2019 10:49:53 pm
      4th choice and ideally will be shipped on in the summer
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #424: Feb 05, 2019 11:18:11 pm
      Have we kept a Clean sheet whilst he has had this run of games?

      Genuine question, not being a smart arse.

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