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      Joel Matip Player Thread

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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #475: Feb 28, 2019 07:13:12 pm
      I would play him until Gomez is really 100% fit. For me, he moved ahead of Lovren in the list.

      Me too. I wouldn't rush Gomez back in and Dejan's fitness is pretty suspect as well.

      I like a settled back four and when we're not conceding I don't see any rush to change.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #476: Feb 28, 2019 08:02:00 pm
      Joe will have to earn his place back because why would you drop Joel he has played really well especially alongside Virgil. Lets be happy this squad is the best equipped to finish of a season  in style we have had for some time.
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      Reply #477: Mar 01, 2019 12:55:12 am
      Joe will have to earn his place back because why would you drop Joel he has played really well especially alongside Virgil. Lets be happy this squad is the best equipped to finish of a season  in style we have had for some time.

      Agreed mate, Joe deffo has to earn his place. Joel has been fantastic.
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      Reply #478: Mar 01, 2019 03:43:18 pm
      Matip is looking fitter and stronger than I've seen him. It helps playing next to the best CB in the world mind but he's form has been very very impressive.

      We will look very strong in the CB positions once Joe and Dejan return.
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      Reply #479: Mar 01, 2019 09:31:06 pm
      Joe will have to earn his place back because why would you drop Joel he has played really well especially alongside Virgil. Lets be happy this squad is the best equipped to finish of a season  in style we have had for some time.

      Not sure about him. He was half an inch away from costing us all 3 points with his calamitous clearance into his own goal against United last week. 

      Not about picking fault for the sake of it because he did it and would have done it if the lad was onside. It was a very close decision and some real poor defending.

      That said he has done the job a 4th choice centre half is at best going to do so far. He is important to us now and we need him to keep contributing to clean sheets.

      In a similar way to the Origi/Firmino situation, as soon as the first choice player in Gomez is match fit, I'd be looking to get him back in the side.
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      Reply #480: Mar 02, 2019 12:21:27 am
      Not sure about him. He was half an inch away from costing us all 3 points with his calamitous clearance into his own goal against United last week. 

      Not about picking fault for the sake of it because he did it and would have done it if the lad was onside. It was a very close decision and some real poor defending.

      That said he has done the job a 4th choice centre half is at best going to do so far. He is important to us now and we need him to keep contributing to clean sheets.

      In a similar way to the Origi/Firmino situation, as soon as the first choice player in Gomez is match fit, I'd be looking to get him back in the side.

      Agreed mate and I still think Gomez will have to prove himself fit before he comes back in but you are right, that OG would have been disastrous and just reinforces my earlier belief that he has a monumental calamitous moment in him and that scares the sh*t out of me.
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      Reply #481: Mar 02, 2019 10:46:07 am
      Agreed mate and I still think Gomez will have to prove himself fit before he comes back in but you are right, that OG would have been disastrous and just reinforces my earlier belief that he has a monumental calamitous moment in him and that scares the sh*t out of me.

      Yep just because it didn't count doesn't mean it didn't happen. If any other club were scouting him in that game they wouldn't ignore it because the crosser was a toe nail offside.
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      Reply #482: Mar 14, 2019 12:23:05 am
      Aside from the own goal he was absolutely superb tonight. He's done a fine job at the back and has firmly planted Lovren on the subs bench.
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      Reply #483: Mar 14, 2019 12:38:41 am
      Aside from the own goal he was absolutely superb tonight. He's done a fine job at the back and has firmly planted Lovren on the subs bench.

      And Gomez, who will have to earn his job back.
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      Reply #484: Mar 14, 2019 01:04:36 am
      Aside from the own goal he was absolutely superb tonight. He's done a fine job at the back and has firmly planted Lovren on the subs bench.

      Own goal really wasn’t his fault and not much he could do. Thought he was really good though like you said he’s solidly our number 2 CB right now.
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      Reply #485: Mar 14, 2019 01:44:54 am
      My MOTM tonight simply because he didn't let his head drop after the OG.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #486: Mar 14, 2019 07:04:38 am
      Thought he had an exceptional game.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #487: Mar 14, 2019 07:58:22 am
      I like Matip, he’s about as good as you’ll get for a backup CB
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #488: Mar 14, 2019 11:17:28 am
      OG should not be held against him, if he didn't make an attempt to get there it would have been an easy tap in for Lewandoski.

      The bigger thing to take away from that game was how after scoring an OG his confidence remained the same, his hunger to be on the ball and actually move forward with the ball was really encouraging for me.

      Would keep him in until Joe outperforms him in training or his performances wavier quite a bit when starting.
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      Reply #489: Mar 14, 2019 01:18:19 pm
      Think Joel has nailed down that starting spot for the foreseeable future, which is good because we shouldn't feel the need to rush Joe back until he is ready.

      He's got a touch of Sakho too him, but I think we've still not lost this season when he starts for us. That's a heck of a stat.
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      Reply #490: Mar 14, 2019 01:37:33 pm
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      Reply #491: Mar 14, 2019 03:01:22 pm
      Think Joel has nailed down that starting spot for the foreseeable future, which is good because we shouldn't feel the need to rush Joe back until he is ready.

      He's got a touch of Sakho too him, but I think we've still not lost this season when he starts for us. That's a heck of a stat.

      TBH Sakho looked clumsy like a donkey at times but I think he was deceptively good on the ball and a good passer too. I honestly liked him as a player. Just a bad attitude to go with it.

      Anyway, I wouldn't drop Matip. People blaming him for the OG have never a single game played in their lives, or they would know from his body position and where the ball was going there was no way he was putting that over the ba,  apart from pulling some ninja sh*t out of a kung fu movie. You could see it in his face too, he wasn't feeling ashamed, he was angry at Robbo.

      Second choice CB for me until Gomez wins his spot back. Healthy competition is always a good thing.
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      Reply #492: Mar 14, 2019 04:20:13 pm
      TBH Sakho looked clumsy like a donkey at times but I think he was deceptively good on the ball and a good passer too. I honestly liked him as a player. Just a bad attitude to go with it.

      Anyway, I wouldn't drop Matip. People blaming him for the OG have never a single game played in their lives, or they would know from his body position and where the ball was going there was no way he was putting that over the ba,  apart from pulling some ninja sh*t out of a kung fu movie. You could see it in his face too, he wasn't feeling ashamed, he was angry at Robbo.

      Second choice CB for me until Gomez wins his spot back. Healthy competition is always a good thing.

      Yea actually didn’t mean the Sakho remark as a bad thing, just that there’s times when he “looks” clumsy even though he isn’t. I always liked Sakho. I’d certainly have him ahead of Lovren but his attitude must have been poor.
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      Reply #493: Mar 14, 2019 05:33:44 pm
      Matip been very very good of late, Ive said it before its amazing what a proper run of games injury free can do for anyone.
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      Reply #494: Mar 14, 2019 05:49:05 pm
      Matip been very very good of late, Ive said it before its amazing what a proper run of games injury free can do for anyone.

      I agree, thought was a bit of a liability after Gomez and Zlovten went down but his form has steadily improved over the last couple of months. He is still prone to the occasional heart wrenching gaffe but those have become much less frequent and his partnership with VVD has grown plus we have the clean sheets to prove it.
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      Reply #495: Mar 14, 2019 05:58:39 pm
      Joel Beckenbaur I'll call him from now on
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      Reply #496: Mar 14, 2019 10:47:46 pm
      Can't blame him for that OG but having said that, if he hadn't off stuck it in his net, I felt, watching it again that even Lewandowski that sook, might have missed it, as the height of the ball was on the way up, felt if anything Lewandowski might have knocked it in off his stomach or could have missed it altogether.

      I may have been severely stoned at the time!  :lmao: :lmao:
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      Reply #497: Mar 15, 2019 04:45:18 am
      Matip played very well against Lewandowski. He has been in great form for a while. Part of it is just getting the time to find form and the other part is the man next to him.
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      Reply #498: Mar 15, 2019 08:03:32 am
      Matip played very well against Lewandowski. He has been in great form for a while. Part of it is just getting the time to find form and the other part is the man next to him.

      Made Lewandowski look sh*t, Matip has done really well since getting back in the team and deserves his spot full time now.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #499: Apr 09, 2019 03:03:01 pm
      https://twitter.com/k8a_naby/status/1115544991936450560?s=21

      I actually remember thinking we needed some of this at the time as we weren’t able to pass forward with any momentum. Well in Matip.

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