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      Joel Matip Player Thread (D)

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      heimdall
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #414: Feb 01, 2019 09:34:38 am
      Did a lot right against Leicester but yet I never feel confident with him defending.

      Such a timid player for such a big lad - ā€œGentle Giantā€ never has there been a truer description of a player.

      He's a decent enough deputy, but I miss Big Joe next to Virgil.
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      Reply #415: Feb 01, 2019 10:20:16 am
      Did a lot right against Leicester but yet I never feel confident with him defending.

      Such a timid player for such a big lad - ā€œGentle Giantā€ never has there been a truer description of a player.

      This is spot on

      He played well against Leicester... but there was something about his performance
      He lacks aggression and assertiveness

      Gentle giant is spot on

      Don't dislike him and I think for a lot of the years say between 2010 and 2017 he'd have probably been our first choice and we'd be lording him.. but for a title winning starter? Not at that level.. Not at Virgil or Joe's level

      Id happily keep him around but I think he would want to start so I imagine  he'll move on in the summer
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      Reply #416: Feb 04, 2019 11:57:59 am
      Gentle giant for sure. I like Matip for the reason that he somehow carries a bigger goal threat than Virgil, he seems to get onto alot more in the box similar to Lovren. What i also like is that he looks far more natural stepping out of defence with the ball than Lovren and miles ahead of somebody like Sakho.
      Unfortunately for both him and Lovren, the young Joe Gomez is a level above them both at CB at present.

      I hope Matip remains fit and injury free until the end of the season, coz we are gonna need him.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #417: Feb 05, 2019 09:01:55 am
      Number of times he got caught flat footed because he charged in to make a challenge.
      Sooner he goes back to 4th choice the better.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #418: Feb 05, 2019 10:13:44 am
      He's an ok squad player option that's about it.

      4th choice for sure.

      Hopefully replaced with a better CB in the Summer.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #419: Feb 05, 2019 10:56:01 am
      I actually admired his forward runs... thatā€™s just about it..
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      Reply #420: Feb 05, 2019 11:06:17 am
      I actually admired his forward runs... thatā€™s just about it..

      Only player that broke the line all night mate.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #421: Feb 05, 2019 09:56:46 pm
      I think I'd rather have Lovren out of the 2.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #422: Feb 05, 2019 10:49:53 pm
      4th choice and ideally will be shipped on in the summer
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #423: Feb 05, 2019 11:18:11 pm
      Have we kept a Clean sheet whilst he has had this run of games?

      Genuine question, not being a smart arse.
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      Reply #424: Feb 06, 2019 02:40:15 pm
      Have we kept a Clean sheet whilst he has had this run of games?

      Genuine question, not being a smart arse.

      In the last 3 games he played nope we gave up 5 goals though I wouldn't put it all on him, thought the last couple of game he was decent.
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      Reply #425: Feb 06, 2019 02:49:45 pm
      In the last 3 games he played nope we gave up 5 goals though I wouldn't put it all on him, thought the last couple of game he was decent.

      Was at fault for the first goal vs Palace. Needs to start switching on more and not playing people onside. Be good if he stops trying to run with the ball too, done it a few times and each time he is getting tackled and we are being left open in defence.

      Other than that, been steady.
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      Reply #426: Feb 06, 2019 03:11:49 pm
      In the last 3 games he played nope we gave up 5 goals though I wouldn't put it all on him, thought the last couple of game he was decent.

      Heā€™s been better than an admittedly ill VVD in last two games.

      I think his awkwardness tends to undermine confidence a bit.
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      Reply #427: Feb 06, 2019 05:33:31 pm
      Heā€™s been better than an admittedly ill VVD in last two games.

      I think his awkwardness tends to undermine confidence a bit.

      Donā€™t know what was going on with Virgilā€™s passing in the last couple of games, keeps over hitting them straight out of play half the time when heā€™s going across the pitch.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #428: Feb 06, 2019 05:41:45 pm
      He is all we have and considering he was out for a while he has been ok
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #429: Feb 06, 2019 06:34:28 pm
      A few here claiming that we are  or should be looking to buy a CB willing to play second fiddle to Gomez and VVD, someone willing to sit on the bench  :roll:
      We should always be look at players that can come in and really challenge for those position and want to be the first choice starter other wise what are we really achieving...?
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #430: Feb 06, 2019 06:45:02 pm
      He is all we have and considering he was out for a while he has been ok

      Didn't somebody point out that a lack of credible back up could be our undoing when the going gets tough.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #431: Feb 06, 2019 09:38:09 pm
      In the last 3 games he played nope we gave up 5 goals though I wouldn't put it all on him, thought the last couple of game he was decent.

      F**k. 5 Goals.

      I agree he hasn't been to blame for our recent performances but he hasn't helped.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #432: Feb 08, 2019 12:16:40 pm
      He's okay for fourth choice. In many ways I'm glad we didn't loan him out and play Milner there.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #433: Feb 08, 2019 01:32:58 pm
      Came into the team well initially when Gomez was out but really struggled since that collarbone injury.

      One to move on in the summer.
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      Reply #434: Feb 08, 2019 01:43:20 pm
      Came into the team well initially when Gomez was out but really struggled since that collarbone injury.

      One to move on in the summer.

      Weird how we see things differently.

      I think VVD has been the weak link in the centre in last two games. Clearly only c.60% healthy.

      Joel can be ungainly but I think heā€™s played well.
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      Reply #435: Feb 08, 2019 02:06:47 pm
      Weird how we see things differently.

      I think VVD has been the weak link in the centre in last two games. Clearly only c.60% healthy.

      Joel can be ungainly but I think heā€™s played well.

      Yep.
      It's fashionable to gripe about certain players but give others a free pass.
      VVD has been pretty poor since his illness.
      No surprise when you found out he lost 4 kilo's from a frame that was hardly fat.
      In many ways, I think an illness that causes such dramatic weight loss is worse than a physical injury, because it can take a while to put that weight back on, and get back to as strong as he was before.

      Matip has done pretty well.
      He's usually where he needs to be, he defends a high line well, he doesn't get "done" very often, and he has the guile to take a yellow to stop an attack before it gets going.
      Sure, he's not in the same class as VVD when both are fully fit and firing, but then who is.
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      Re: Joel Matip Player Thread
      Reply #436: Feb 11, 2019 08:39:07 pm
      Mad the way it's quiet in the player thread of a player who has being doing well when that same player is usually quick to get ripped when he's been sh*te.

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