Sakho fails drug test - Update: Case dropped by UEFA

An Hour for Others
16 hours ago
We really hope there isn't a witch hunt against Mamadou Sakho. He's a top, top fella. He asked to meet us again last month and sat for 2 hours chatting with his PA. He is desperate to help families and kids in our City with us and back in Senegal, he's looking at building a school there, I offered to go over with him and help them paint it. He also wants to help us with the room refurbs we do for people struggling.
Unbelievably he then said that he would take children and parents who we've worked with who've suffered bereavement or trauma to Disney Land Paris all expenses paid! He's one of the good ones and I hope this side of him is shown and not as if he's some sort of cheat, he's a diamond and stands out from virtually all other footballers as a true, down to earth, decent human being who has never forgotten his roots.

Apparently UEFA will be deciding on Sakho's fate tomorrow

Not got a good feeling about this, think we may be shocked at the length of the ban.

I just don't get this.  He seems like an articulate and thoughtful bloke, so he can't play the idiot card and say he just didn't know.  I mean if he really didn't know that he shouldn't be taking it, then the club has really dropped the ball in keeping the players informed as to what they should and should not be putting in their bodies.

But assuming he DID know, then there is no excuse and he deserves whatever gets thrown his way.  Even if it's not an egregious substance---if there is a rule in place, then why on earth would you break it? 

It sort of reminds me of that penalty West Ham got against Leicester last week.  The ref had apparently warned Morgan not to keep grabbing people in the box.  Fine.  So you don't do it anymore.  If you then go ahead and do it after being told specifically not to do so, then you're an idiot.

I mean suppose tomorrow they made chocolate milk a banned substance.  Would it be ridiculous?  absolutely.  It would be insane.

But how thick would you have to be to then go ahead and drink chocolate milk anyway?

It doesn't matter how ridiculous or absurd the rules are.  If you want to be a professional football player then you have to abide by the (occasionally absurd) rules put out for you.

And Sakho didn't.

Your points of reference are really F***ing weird!

Carra on Sakho:

“It’s a nightmare for the player,” Carragher told Sky Sports News on Monday.

“I think he’s let himself and the club down badly, because he’s become a really important player.

“There’s serious questions to be asked of him.”

“He’s had a great campaign,” said Carragher. “He’s one of the leaders of the team now, certainly within that run, thinking about how well he played in the Manchester United and Borussia Dortmund games. It’s now how Liverpool fill that void.

“For a professional footballer, as in any sport, it’s not acceptable.”

If you want a laugh have a read:

http://www.joe.co.uk/sport/why-we-should-consider-banning-muslims-from-the-premier-league-following-the-mamadou-sakho-case/55531

Ban all Muslims!! 

Sakho needed to be more careful with his drugs. We do not need this media spotlight at the moment, we need to focus on next Thursday.

How hard can it be to fill a glass? The only ones that won't want to do it are those with something to hide and it's always handy to know who they are.

Exactly - 'Health, Safety & Welfare'  "for your benefit" mate... impossible to argue against. Nothing to hide? Where's the problem?

Metro or Daily Fail is reporting that the reason Sahko missed the first 6 matches of the year is because the manager thought he was out of shape, at that time he took the pills to burn the fat to get back into the 1st team.

Saw it on my cell as a news story, now its gone....read like Brendan benched him because he did not like the body fat so Mama decided to lose weight quick.

Metro or Daily Fail is reporting that the reason Sahko missed the first 6 matches of the year is because the manager thought he was out of shape, at that time he took the pills to burn the fat to get back into the 1st team.

Saw it on my cell as a news story, now its gone....read like Brendan benched him because he did not like the body fat so Mama decided to lose weight quick.

I've read that too AZ, it was clear it was Brendan's fault the moment the story broke to be honest.

A fat burning pill which suggests a diuretic type of agent.

I'm not suggesting anything here but those sort of drugs are usually masking agents for other drugs!

Is that common knowledge or first hand experience 

I've read that too AZ, it was clear it was Brendan's fault the moment the story broke to be honest.

Some of our female supporters will be in for a pleasant surprise now Jurgens asked the players to show more passion

If you want a laugh have a read:

http://www.joe.co.uk/sport/why-we-should-consider-banning-muslims-from-the-premier-league-following-the-mamadou-sakho-case/55531

Ban all Muslims!! 

 

Saw it on my cell as a news story, now its gone....read like Brendan benched him because he did not like the body fat so Mama decided to lose weight quick.

Poor Brendan going to take the flak for this

Metro or Daily Fail is reporting that the reason Sahko missed the first 6 matches of the year is because the manager thought he was out of shape, at that time he took the pills to burn the fat to get back into the 1st team.

Don't think how Sahko loses weight is Rodgers fault
Saw it on my cell as a news story, now its gone....read like Brendan benched him because he did not like the body fat so Mama decided to lose weight quick.

How hard can it be to fill a glass? The only ones that won't want to do it are those with something to hide and it's always handy to know who they are.

Exactly - 'Health, Safety & Welfare'  "for your benefit" mate... impossible to argue against. Nothing to hide? Where's the problem?

Athletes don't like being drug tested every week and being tested every week hasn't been proven to reduce the use of banned substances. In some cases, it just makes athletes go the extra mile to cover it up and develop more intricate ways to cheat.

Wenger reckons loads of footballers are on the drugs, and I think he's right. If people will take drugs to get their hands on an Olympic gold medal, they'll certainly take them in order to get a multi million pound contract. Not excusing Sakho or whoever was responsible at the club one bit, but I wouldn't be surprised if this sort of thing is rife and our man just got unlucky getting caught.

Wenger reckons loads of footballers are on the drugs, and I think he's right. If people will take drugs to get their hands on an Olympic gold medal, they'll certainly take them in order to get a multi million pound contract. Not excusing Sakho or whoever was responsible at the club one bit, but I wouldn't be surprised if this sort of thing is rife and our man just got unlucky getting caught.

Well Mick you could say he was unlucky to get caught, or a tw*t for taking them in the first place. Depend which way you look at it.

Athletes don't like being drug tested every week and being tested every week hasn't been proven to reduce the use of banned substances. In some cases, it just makes athletes go the extra mile to cover it up and develop more intricate ways to cheat.

I bow to your superior knowledge on 'athletes' crouch - I only know about ordinary folk, mere mortals.   

I'm tested regularly in work. If I'm prescribed any drug I run it past the 'Company' before taking it... as is the policy. When the 'Alcohol and Drugs Policy' was introduced, everyone in the company was educated on what drugs [both illegal and prescription]. Everyone 'new' is afforded the same education. To date [16 years later] no one has been sacked for use of banned drugs (which include painkillers, for e.g.).

Having been educated and given ownership/responsibility - if anyone is 'caught' they would have no excuse [not even blaming it on Brendan Rodgers would work  ] and certainly not a plea of ignorance.

But you're probably right... footballers wouldn't want tested (even if discreet intervention kept their health and livelihood safe) and we certainly wouldn't want to upset them; poor things. 

So... to F**k with looking for solutions it is then - just accept things can't be changed and go with the status quo... much simpler. 

Is that common knowledge or first hand experience 

Aussie should be able to confirm 

He must've known he was taking a banned substance..

I can see it now....
He's big mates with Kolo isn't he, so surely they must have been in the gym together working on their quads for kolo to ask
"Whats in the juice there muthafucker?" 
as Mamo looked at him with those possessed tribal eyeballs..
"Hey thats the same sh*t that got me well and truly banned" screamed Kolo..

Baffles me, really does..

Maybe someone can tell me but can players refer to a personal GP? or once they sign does the club doctor take over his full medical records as such?... so if you got a bit a cold or a chest infection would the club doctor prescribe you the relevant medication as would any GP do?
Was the banned drug prescribed to him (by mistake) by either his GP(if he has one) or by the club doctor?or did he simply buy it on line..

Tommy Smith used to go to Walton Hospital to see a knee specialist on the quiet (so i'm told) because he knew the club doctor wouldn't pass him fit to play... just saying like..

another thing is if and its a big if, he does play again, the stick he'll get from the crowd will be too much..
wherever he goes now he'll cop for it week after week..

still think Whiskey nose gave the uefa official a back hander to tap him on the shoulder in the tunnel after the game..

I've read that too AZ, it was clear it was Brendan's fault the moment the story broke to be honest.

Brendan can't get the blame for everything mate.

Brendan can't get the blame for everything mate.

Are you sure Si, I mean reaaaaalllly sure? (hint: Sarcasm may have been included in this and my previous post which you quoted)

Brendan can't get the blame for everything mate.

If the manager was not happy with the fitness of the player (ie..overweight) the player should have gone to the trainers and asked them to set up a supervised plan to achieve the goals.

Unless the LFC training department is handing out illegal substances, I pretty much put the onus of fault upon the individual trying to lose the weight and not communicating.

How about Sahko just goes to the training/medical department and askes "hey will these work for me?"   or "Do you guys know anything about these pills?"

In the modern age of sports where prescription ban lists have been the norm for years...it's a pretty lame cycle of events from our CB.

I bow to your superior knowledge on 'athletes' crouch - I only know about ordinary folk, mere mortals.   

I'm tested regularly in work. If I'm prescribed any drug I run it past the 'Company' before taking it... as is the policy. When the 'Alcohol and Drugs Policy' was introduced, everyone in the company was educated on what drugs [both illegal and prescription]. Everyone 'new' is afforded the same education. To date [16 years later] no one has been sacked for use of banned drugs (which include painkillers, for e.g.).

Having been educated and given ownership/responsibility - if anyone is 'caught' they would have no excuse [not even blaming it on Brendan Rodgers would work  ] and certainly not a plea of ignorance.

But you're probably right... footballers wouldn't want tested (even if discreet intervention kept their health and livelihood safe) and we certainly wouldn't want to upset them; poor things. 

So... to F**k with looking for solutions it is then - just accept things can't be changed and go with the status quo... much simpler. 

Look up sports research on athletes and drug testing and you have your answers.

No need to be sarky and condescending when i'm just sharing info on studies that have been done.

Athletes don't like being drug tested every week and being tested every week hasn't been proven to reduce the use of banned substances. In some cases, it just makes athletes go the extra mile to cover it up and develop more intricate ways to cheat.

So we should just shut our eyes and let them get on with cheating the easy way ?