Serious Injury Problem!

any news did they all make it off the team Bus

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Ibe hamstring can't be because he's played too much... I think this has got to be something as simple as players not warming up correctly and then warming down after games. Just finishing a game then sitting in the coach is not very good.

Hopefully it is something as simple as that that could be fairly easily fixed.

The worse case scenario is that the high intensity running game of the gegenpress is going to tend to lead to more injuries.
This has been worrying me ever since bmck earlier in the thread posted a couple of links to past injury problems Jürgen had at Dortmund.

However quite a few of our injured guys have not actually played that much football - not just Ibe, but Origi, and Sturridge obviously. Even Skrtel and Lovren as CBs dont run around as much as the rest of the outfield players, so their hamstring pulls are more likely to be just the result of an unlucky over-stretch, or maybe poor warm-ups etc as you suggest.

I f**king hope so anyway!

They are professional footballers,maybe they did have it soft under BR,i can never recall us having so many injuries in the 80's and for those that saw games in the 80's the pitches at this time of year were not pretty,compared to the carpet like surfaces they play on now,so i am suprised at the level of injuries,even if Klopp has upped the tempo.

They are professional footballers,maybe they did have it soft under BR,i can never recall us having so many injuries in the 80's and for those that saw games in the 80's the pitches at this time of year were not pretty,compared to the carpet like surfaces they play on now,so i am suprised at the level of injuries,even if Klopp has upped the tempo.

The pace of the game was slower in the 80s though.

Plus players are a bit more tightly tuned these days fitness-wise, think it makes them more injury prone.

The pace of the game was slower in the 80s though.

Plus players are a bit more tightly tuned these days fitness-wise, think it makes them more injury prone.

You could be right mate,but the Liverpool team,of the mid-late 80's would piss this league,Ian Rush was no slouch,neither John Barnes,i doubt Lucas would have beaten Souness over a 100 meter sprint,if you compare the current squad with that team,pace wise,i would have to say the 80's team had a lot more zip about them,i just think they have not been fit enough under BR,so when Klopp has upped the tempo,you could argue the injuries would happen.

You could be right mate,but the Liverpool team,of the mid-late 80's would piss this league,Ian Rush was no slouch,neither John Barnes,i doubt Lucas would have beaten Souness over a 100 meter sprint,if you compare the current squad with that team,pace wise,i would have to say the 80's team had a lot more zip about them,i just think they have not been fit enough under BR,so when Klopp has upped the tempo,you could argue the injuries would happen.

Oh aye, no question that team was on a different level. But that is down to skill etc, not really fitness.
That team had 2 or 3 of quick guys ( Rush up front, Barnes, Lawrenson at the back) but as a team they didnt run around as much as the guys today - they let the ball do the work.

It could be that Brendan's pre-season was not up to scratch, but the truth is we dont really know. Its something we'd all probably like to believe - cos it would mean the cause of the problem is in the past. But that could just be wishful thinking.

We could definitely do with ditching these pre-season tours of the US etc though, to give us the best chance of being 100%.

The pace of the game was slower in the 80s though.

Plus players are a bit more tightly tuned these days fitness-wise, think it makes them more injury prone.

but they have far far better monitoring of fitness now, what is happening now is a bit of a mystery really. 

The pace of the game was slower in the 80s though.

Plus players are a bit more tightly tuned these days fitness-wise, think it makes them more injury prone.

When you talk about the pace of the game in the 80s you should take ionto account that we had footballers who were adept in passing the ball long and short with accuracy.Because of the passing I think you have been lulled into a mistaken belief that the game was slower.I would never have called Ian Rush  slow.

any news did they all make it off the team Bus

 

This about sums up the Exeter game....

SO.

Toure should be ok for Arsenal, anybody else from the Injured list? 

It's my opinion that LFC had a sh*t preseason training regiment under Rogers. As much as I loved seeing them here in 2014 in the USA, they need to stop the preseason tours, and get preseason done at Mellwood for the next 2-3 years. Let Klopp PT them to make them the machines he had in mind. I just think the preseason tours are wasteful in preparing for the toughest league in the world. Just my opinion

Oy,look here,i think you got the point.A lot of the big UK clubs are using most of  their preseason time for "modeling"...and that is ok,you should work on clubs reputation and the lads should play a few casual games...but not when you finished season at 6th spot,when your last trophy was won five F***ing years a go,when your team did not played in champions league since season 2009/10...the thing that you should do is to sit down with the team,figure out whats F***ing wrong and F***ing solve it,dont waste time on some stupid friendly games against the below par teams that dont even exist...work hard,train hard and get ready for the next season or its gonna be a bad one...like it is...

The problem here ..... is that the matches that we have "pressed hard" in, are our best performances.  When we have played sh*te we did not "press hard"   

Jürgen seemed furious when it was suggested that his methods were to blame for the injuries. He made a point of saying we do not train, we just recover due to two games per week.
But he spoke about the "reaction" being good after the Westham debacle. The players inconsistency then could be purely that they cannot give maximum effort in pressing every match, so it only comes when they are desperate to show a reaction to a poor previous match.

It appears the biggest efforts are forthcoming for the biggest matches as well which makes sense.
You can understand why he is angry   The only way we can win is to press hard, and he is running out of players fast. The more we press, the quicker we run out of players.

I watched those games where we pressed hard and we looked good at the begining,as the time passed by more and more players stayed out of breath and Skrtel looked lost in that style...time is needed for players to get used to that...

Looks like training has cranked up a notch and looks like the softies are starting to show up.

I think thats the truth...i think that a lot of players find Klopps style of training like a shocker.

Found this on FB, not sure of the accuracy but 'kin hell....Jürgen might have to throw on the boots


LIVERPOOL INJURIES
Jordon Ibe. Hamstring
3-4 weeks
Kolo Toure. Hamstring
1 week
D Lovren Hamstring 2 weeks
P Coutinho Hamstring 3 weeks
M Sakho Knee Injury no date
J Henderson Ankle/Foot no date
D Origi Hamstring 3 weeks
M Skrtel Hamstring 5 weeks
J Rossiter Hamstring no date
D Sturridge Hamstring 2 weeks
D Ings ACL Knee 5 months
J Gomez ACL Knee 5 months
J Flanagan Knee 2 weeks



so that leaves us with a Team like this................

Big day for Eddie

Likewise, thinking that their injuries were not a coincident. Just in my own opinion, its better to take a rest first after taking a medical examination and must obey what the doctors says. Its for their good. It is possible too to have a once in a while unwinding for self enjoyment.

Well Ings is back in training as we know. Now Sturbridge and Origi are both back in training and hoping for a start in Basle.
Hope Origi makes it, but to be honest, I'm sort of hoping Sturridge doesn't.
Think we play better as an attacking unit without him, and wouldn't be too upset if we sold him in the summer.

Well Ings is back in training as we know. Now Sturbridge and Origi are both back in training and hoping for a start in Basle.
Hope Origi makes it, but to be honest, I'm sort of hoping Sturridge doesn't.
Think we play better as an attacking unit without him, and wouldn't be too upset if we sold him in the summer.

So.....you would rather our best striker (and best player) to not start our most important game of the season? And you'd not be "too upset" if we sold our best player this summer?

Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.

So.....you would rather our best striker (and best player) to not start our most important game of the season? And you'd not be "too upset" if we sold our best player this summer?

Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.

Think I get where he is coming from, personally I'd love the two playing. Think given time they'll be a great pairing. Could see Ings playing slightly wider I'd imagine too when he gets back.

So.....you would rather our best striker (and best player) to not start our most important game of the season? And you'd not be "too upset" if we sold our best player this summer?

Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.

I prefer...

 Foxtrot Sierra Tango....






......f***in stupid tw*t


Yankee November Whiskey Alpha

So.....you would rather our best striker (and best player) to not start our most important game of the season? And you'd not be "too upset" if we sold our best player this summer?

Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.

FFS, I'm writing 'Sturridge' while thinking 'Henderson'
Think I'm losing the plot!
Didn't anyone read between the lines, re: returned to training ?
Not to worry, I must have missed the morning medication before I posted that 😳

FFS, I'm writing 'Sturridge' while thinking 'Henderson'
Think I'm losing the plot!
Didn't anyone read between the lines, re: returned to training ?
Not to worry, I must have missed the morning medication before I posted that 😳

Man...you had me worried there for a minute

Well Ings is back in training as we know. Now Sturbridge and Origi are both back in training and hoping for a start in Basle.
Hope Origi makes it, but to be honest, I'm sort of hoping Sturridge doesn't.
Think we play better as an attacking unit without him, and wouldn't be too upset if we sold him in the summer.

FML, I nearly had a heart attack when I saw this thread bumped, thought we lost someone like Sturridge.