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      Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]

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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #630: Jun 20, 2016 09:51:01 pm
      Maureen will be putting in a multi-million pound offer for the Slovakian Bus here.
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #631: Jun 20, 2016 09:51:52 pm
      Top of the group little Wales  proud .
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #632: Jun 20, 2016 09:52:20 pm
      Sturridge has not been great today.

      played out wide what you expect?
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #633: Jun 20, 2016 09:53:32 pm
      Woy has made the group difficult for us.

      He doesn't even know his best team. How is that possible at this stage?

      What is he getting paid to do?
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #634: Jun 20, 2016 09:55:18 pm
      What a performance by Wales. Bale MOTM, Allen was a masterclass in harrying and keeping things neat and tidy. and Ramsey was fantastic linking midfield and attack too!
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #635: Jun 20, 2016 09:56:13 pm
      Thought all the reds acquitted themselves well tonight.
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #636: Jun 20, 2016 09:56:53 pm
      All 3 Wales goals looked really simple. Did Russia put any effort in at all?
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #637: Jun 20, 2016 09:56:59 pm
      Hodgson at Liverpool - 35% win percentage in the league.
      Hodgson at England - 30% win record for England at tournaments.

      Fairly consistent - got to give him that.

      England should have walked that group - Wales were the toughest opponents.
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #638: Jun 20, 2016 09:58:33 pm
      Not beating Russia or Slovakia and scoring just one goal in those games is absolutely appalling.

      Could do with Ronaldo turning up and getting Portugal over the line against Hungary now.
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #639: Jun 20, 2016 10:01:39 pm
      I have no words  :mad:
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #640: Jun 20, 2016 10:03:00 pm
      Typical clueless tactics from Hodgosaurus.

      With a parked bus he takes off Studge and leaves on Vardy.

      No idea what Rooney offered, if anything England looked less threatening.
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #641: Jun 20, 2016 10:04:07 pm
      We don't need to win, a draw is enough and Roy loves going for a draw  ;D

      look who we might be playing now?
      ;D i think the win was a must.
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #642: Jun 20, 2016 10:10:18 pm
      look who we might be playing now?
      ;D i think the win was a must.
      it doesn't make a difference, Wales could still get Czech or Croatia and England Hungary, Iceland or Austria.  I really doubt Portugal are going to be runner up in their group. They are much more likely to be 1st or 3rd. I don't think Northern Ireland or Albania will get through to make it easy for Wales.
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #643: Jun 20, 2016 10:10:52 pm
      And yet those at the top still rate Roy fckin baffling really ,how the hell he is in charge of England is one of life's mysteries ,
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #644: Jun 20, 2016 10:11:33 pm
      A stroll in the park for Wales! A sip of Martini there, a peek behind the shades here - so so easy! Look forward to the last 16 with Wales showing all the big sides how to do it! Absolutely sure they will get to the quarters.

      Now England...causing concern?! Definitely. No doubt Hodgson will come out and praise the mighty possession performance of unbelievable back passes and sideway passes but it wasn't acceptable and a 0-0 draw was totally deserved (as well for Slovakia who defended and kept their shape so so well with great discipline). Hodgson thinks it's radical enough to just put out a 4-3-3 formation on the piece of paper he hands into the UEFA official when announcing the First XI. But sadly Roy, you have to play like a team that set out on as 4-3-3. The only movement that happened off the ball was from the Liverpool dynamic and you can be sure as hell that such movement off the ball was NOT taught on the England training field, rather Clyne, Hendo, Sturridge and Lallana playing their own game taken straight from Melwood. Playing a 4-3-3 that is constantly flat as that and fails to move otherwise was utterly pathetic. Does Roy think that you only have to get to outer space sticking a firework up your arse and screaming 'Lift off!'.
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #645: Jun 20, 2016 10:12:12 pm
      look who we might be playing now?
      ;D i think the win was a must.

      Don't we get 1 of Hungary, Iceland, Portugal and Austria? I'll take that. The difficulty comes in the 1/4's where France will no doubt be waiting.
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #646: Jun 20, 2016 10:20:00 pm
      Don't we get 1 of Hungary, Iceland, Portugal and Austria? I'll take that. The difficulty comes in the 1/4's where France will no doubt be waiting.

      Not much to separate Portugal or England. Both teams too slow, uninspiring and overrated. Should make for a cracker of a match then.
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #647: Jun 20, 2016 10:21:53 pm
      Very disappointing when you think Wales were the hardest team on paper in our group (( which is weak )).. And yet we only finish runners up.  :-\  Glad Wales got through though.
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #648: Jun 20, 2016 10:23:23 pm
      That would be very harsh if Wales played Croatia in the next round (is that confirmed - Wales play a team from that group?)
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #649: Jun 20, 2016 10:24:35 pm
      That would be very harsh if Wales played Croatia in the next round.
      If that happens I think England dodged a bullet. I think we do not know our first team yet.
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #650: Jun 20, 2016 10:26:53 pm
      Typical clueless tactics from Hodgosaurus.

      With a parked bus he takes off Studge and leaves on Vardy.

      No idea what Rooney offered, if anything England looked less threatening.

      Rooney was sh*te when he came on. Reputation over ability again, nice one Woy.
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #651: Jun 20, 2016 10:30:00 pm
      Wilshere lost the ball a couple of times in the midfield but he did so because he was prepared to take a chance rather than play safe and pass sideways or backwards. There were a couple of lovely balls over the top that almost ended in something for England. I think he looked very handy, much more so than Rooney who either should have started the game from the off or play no part at all.
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #652: Jun 20, 2016 10:32:44 pm
      Just looking and providing we win in the last 16, we will probably be playing Germany in the quarter final.
      If Wales get to the quarter it looks to be Italy.
      Was a minefield to work out, but I don't think Germany and Italy have shown a massive difference in quality yet.
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #653: Jun 20, 2016 10:37:47 pm
      England on top until Rooney came on. 100% he will still start the next game even still.
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #654: Jun 20, 2016 10:40:03 pm
      Italy or Runner-up D  v Wales or Third from A/C/D
      England or Runner up F v Germany or third from A/B/F
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #655: Jun 20, 2016 10:40:52 pm
      Just looking and providing we win in the last 16, we will probably be playing Germany in the quarter final.
      If Wales get to the quarter it looks to be Italy.
      Was a minefield to work out, but I don't think Germany and Italy have shown a massive difference in quality yet.

      The semi's are the soonest we could possibly get Germany mate, France would be the 1/4's.
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #656: Jun 20, 2016 10:40:53 pm
      Don't we get 1 of Hungary, Iceland, Portugal and Austria? I'll take that. The difficulty comes in the 1/4's where France will no doubt be waiting.

      Yeah the next round shouldn't be so difficult on paper but it pretty much guarantees one of the big boys in the quarters where as winning the group automatically seeds you to have a potentially nicer journey to the final.

      England will make the quarters and no doubt play well in defeat at the quarter-finals just like they used to do virtually every tournament. It's a shame because there is some real talent in this squad but Roy is never the man to unlick them. To play the last 20 minutes tonight with Kane and Vardy up top together says it all for me. You need guile and trickery or out and out skill to break down a packed organised defence. bonkers to take off Studge when he was seeing so much more of the ball than Vardy and bringing on Kane ahead of young Rashford or even Sterling when we were desperate for somebody to run at defenders and open up some spaces was crazy.
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #657: Jun 20, 2016 10:42:13 pm
      The semi's are the soonest we could possibly get Germany mate, France would be the 1/4's.
      Quarters look like this to me.

      Italy or Runner-up D  v Wales or Third from A/C/D
      England or Runner up F v Germany or third from A/B/F

      Quarter Finalist 3 v Quarter Finalist 4
      Quarter Finalist 5 v Quarter Finalist 6

      EDIT: I think data I worked form might have threw me off a bit.
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #658: Jun 20, 2016 10:43:31 pm
      Just looking and providing we win in the last 16, we will probably be playing Germany in the quarter final.
      If Wales get to the quarter it looks to be Italy.
      Was a minefield to work out, but I don't think Germany and Italy have shown a massive difference in quality yet.

      Just reading the possibilities on twitter (unverified). It seems that England can count themselves a bit lucky if the hardest potential opponent is Portugal and maybe Wales will get a tougher team than they deserve.
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      Re: Group B - Euro 2016 [England, Wales, Slovakia, Russia]
      Reply #659: Jun 20, 2016 10:55:12 pm
      Just reading the possibilities on twitter (unverified). It seems that England can count themselves a bit lucky if the hardest potential opponent is Portugal and maybe Wales will get a tougher team than they deserve.

      I can't see Croatia finishing down in 3rd so I reckon they'd fancy any from Albania, Turkey & Czech Republic. You would expect Portugal to finally get it together when they play Hungary so I would fancy us against the other sides in that group (at least on paper)

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