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      LFCexiled
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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #500: Jun 28, 2016 08:46:59 am

      With the owl, as expected, lowering expectations for most I'd imagine they'll go for a 'young dynamic manager' with a press release along the lines of "entering a new exciting era of English football".

      Why anybody was surprised by last night is beyond me.
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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #501: Jun 28, 2016 10:02:58 am
      The biggest joke is Hodgson was left to fall on his sword, the f**king laughable FA were still considering...........
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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #502: Jun 28, 2016 10:12:05 am
      did he have is statement prepared before the game it appears so. that was by far the worse performance by an England side I can ever remember. I remember now why over many years I have lost the enthusiasm for watching England ...they are crap. But above all its lack of passion in the team last night was a team that was not playing for the manager nor the Country they looked like like Zombies
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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #503: Jun 28, 2016 10:15:58 am
      No it doesnt, the answer is simple, give the job to people who care, people like Shearer do care, yeah he failed at Newcastle, but look at who we have had as managers of England. Shearer would succeed, in fact, if he was hired, I would bet by house he would get us a trophy.

      :lmao:

      Either you're not Engloish or you have mistaken Alan Shearer for somebody else.
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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #504: Jun 28, 2016 10:35:39 am
      You know what, I used to be a massive England fan, I guess like a lot of people.  I'd love to be again but with the mentality we have of continually picking and playing, somehow, what people see as "our best players" and hoping it works, rather than picking a system and the best players to fit it, it's never going to happen.

      I remember 1966, I watched it, all of it and we were never expected to win it.  Portugal were the favourites and we beat them in the semis.  I remember something that Jack Charlton said years later about being selected for the squad, he questioned why when there were better CBs in the country and Ramsey told him he was the best player to play the position how he wanted it played, to partner Moore.

      This tournament has been a mess from start to finish, anybody who couldn't see last night coming doesn't understand football.  My Paul was at work last night so had to listen to it rather than watch it and was fuming when he got in, raging against the players and how crap they all are, refusing to listen to me trying to explain that Roy fu**ed up.

      He had 5 Liverpool players and 5 Spurs players in his squad, both teams play a high line, quick interchanging passes, press like madmen and in a 4231 formation or variations of it.  People were amazed during qualification that Roy had moved away from his traditional 442 system, praising him for being "progressive" and what does he do during the tournament, he plays 433  :mad: :mad: Even the squad he selected didn't make sense, taking players that had barely played all season due to long term injuries and those who had had abysmal seasons at Club level.  Hendo, Wilshire and Rooney as his "main" midfielders ffs.

      Leicester last season and Iceland last night proves that you don't need the best players to win games, you need a set way of playing that gets the best out of the players available.  Those highly paid professionals last night looked lost, like a pub team, a bit like we looked at the start of last season.  Players playing in a system they didn't understand, not in their natural positions, with no direction, no plan and no f**king idea what the f**k they were supposed to be doing.

      As I've just said to Paul, it's a bit like him and his colleagues going into work not knowing what work needs to be done and nobody telling them.  They all know their job but without direction, without a plan they'd all be walking round scratching their heads.

      Whoever the next manager is for me they need to have a distinct way of playing, someone everyone will know before their first game how we're going to set up and play, that we have some sort of identity, methology and knows how to "coach" their way of playing.

      That's my two penneth anyway, now I can get back to proper footy and look forward to watching a manager who knows what the f**k he's doing  ;D
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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #505: Jun 28, 2016 10:48:04 am
      I would have rejected Hodgson's resignation statement and dragged the coward in front of the media for him to lay out every single detail regarding his horrific role in this sorry affair. I'd then take the pleasure to sack him afterwards. That he left it for the players, namely Joe Hart, to front up AND APOLOGISE for that performance says everything you need to know about the man. It was a despicable, shameless and undignified thing to do from a man who conned the world and somehow got away with it for years. It was vintage Hodgson throughout this tournament - pretend that nothing is wrong, arrogantly dismiss the qualities of other teams and anytime the media DARES question his tactics,  preparations or his future prospects then get all defensive and tetchy and show the world your true unpleasant self for all to see.

      It's not hyperbole to say that the man is an utter FRAUD! That will be his epitaph.

      But then again...we all could have told you that. Last night was one hell of a flashback to 6 years ago.


      Fraud.
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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #507: Jun 28, 2016 11:03:57 am
      WM was a pre-post war (WWII not Iraq) formation, before  4 4 2. I was basically saying Roy Hodgson has no idea what he is doing and likening him to a dinosaur. However, if you read the post after that I go on to say its not Roys fault it is of course the FA's fault.

      The FA appointed him, the FA pay him.

      The national side is a joke and was long before Hodgson appeared, the dominating element throughout is the FA.
      The FA is the dinosaur.



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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #508: Jun 28, 2016 11:05:56 am
      I would have rejected Hodgson's resignation statement and dragged the coward in front of the media for him to lay out every single detail regarding his horrific role in this sorry affair. I'd then take the pleasure to sack him afterwards. That he left it for the players, namely Joe Hart, to front up AND APOLOGISE for that performance says everything you need to know about the man. It was a despicable, shameless and undignified thing to do from a man who conned the world and somehow got away with it for years. It was vintage Hodgson throughout this tournament - pretend that nothing is wrong, arrogantly dismiss the qualities of other teams and anytime the media DARES question his tactics,  preparations or his future prospects then get all defensive and tetchy and show the world your true unpleasant self for all to see.

      It's not hyperbole to say that the man is an utter FRAUD! That will be his epitaph.

      But then again...we all could have told you that. Last night was one hell of a flashback to 6 years ago.


      Fraud.

      Perfect FA material.
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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #509: Jun 28, 2016 11:12:05 am
      I thought it was vintage Hodgson, don't really understand why people are surprised by last night.

      Monday's are usually crap for TV Thanks for the comedy show Woy  :D
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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #510: Jun 28, 2016 11:17:03 am

      Indeed. Men in high places with no qualifications for the job. Disgusting boys own culture.
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      Reply #511: Jun 28, 2016 11:40:04 am
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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #512: Jun 28, 2016 12:02:55 pm
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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #513: Jun 28, 2016 01:00:34 pm
      Indeed. Men in high places with no qualifications for the job. Disgusting boys own culture.


      The spectacle will continue while the buffoons you describe appoint managers of the national team.
      Their influence affects every part of the national game but the sporting equivalent of the establishment is as well entrenched as that insidious concept.



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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #514: Jun 28, 2016 01:47:02 pm
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      FA have tried on two separate occasions to get Roy Hodgson to face the media – but both times the former England manager declined.


      That's because he's one horrible, snide shithouse!
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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #515: Jun 28, 2016 01:53:48 pm
      Can't wait for the day he'll finally speak and probably put all the blame on Rooney and Kane forgeting he selected them.
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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #516: Jun 28, 2016 02:08:22 pm
      Hard to disagree with Didi on his views on the exit and Premier League being a bit of a false economy and all.
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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #517: Jun 28, 2016 03:12:55 pm
      Andy "Transfer Gimp" Burton on the case at Chantilly!

      According to him Hodgson basically lost the dressing room. His tactics and decision making being questioned.

      The shithouse will face the media at 4pm. Might need to get some popcorn for that, should be fun!
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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #518: Jun 28, 2016 03:35:26 pm
      The FA  are getting just what they deserved with Hodgson. It's not like his  glaring inadequacies weren't there for everyone to see.
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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #519: Jun 28, 2016 03:46:09 pm
      Andy "Transfer Gimp" Burton on the case at Chantilly!

      According to him Hodgson basically lost the dressing room. His tactics and decision making being questioned.

      The shithouse will face the media at 4pm. Might need to get some popcorn for that, should be fun!

      On Betfair he's 2/50 to lose his sh*t with a female journalist.

      A joke but also painfully possible.
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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #520: Jun 28, 2016 03:49:00 pm
      2 candidates for me for the National job if they want me back onside :)

      1) Glenn Hoddle.
      2) Harry Redknapp.
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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #521: Jun 28, 2016 03:50:35 pm
      Andy "Transfer Gimp" Burton on the case at Chantilly!

      According to him Hodgson basically lost the dressing room. His tactics and decision making being questioned.

      The shithouse will face the media at 4pm. Might need to get some popcorn for that, should be fun!

      So the face rub begins at 4pm ;D
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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #522: Jun 28, 2016 03:52:59 pm
      2 candidates for me for the National job if they want me back onside :)

      1) Glenn Hoddle.
      2) Harry Redknapp.

      Oh I completely forgot about 'arry! PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN!
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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #523: Jun 28, 2016 03:54:51 pm
      On Betfair he's 2/50 to lose his sh*t with a female journalist.

      A joke but also painfully possible.

      Lost it during his time at Liverpool, calling one Echo journalist "too Scouse" when he started getting questioned for his awful decisions.
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      Re: Euro 2016:- Knockout Stages.
      Reply #524: Jun 28, 2016 03:56:06 pm
      2 candidates for me for the National job if they want me back onside :)

      1) Glenn Hoddle.


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