Moussa Sissoko (Newcastle)

Heard this a few places today muted around £12m

On his day is a decent player but doesn't have enough good days for me.........

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/01/football-transfer-rumours-newcastle-moussa-sissoko-liverpool

Heard this a few places today muted around £12m

On his day is a decent player but doesn't have enough good days for me.........

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/01/football-transfer-rumours-newcastle-moussa-sissoko-liverpool

I see we are shopping the bargain bins again. We should only be bringing in players that improve our starting 11 in my opinion.

I see we are shopping the bargain bins again. We should only be bringing in players that improve our starting 11 in my opinion.

Lazy journalism imo....click bait to get the masses all worked up.

I see we are shopping the bargain bins again. We should only be bringing in players that improve our starting 11 in my opinion.

I dont get why people read this trash and think there's an element of truth in it.

He is nothing like Klopp. He is lazy, inconsistent, moans and does nothing for team morale.

I dont get why people read this trash and think there's an element of truth in it.

He is nothing like Klopp. He is lazy, inconsistent, moans and does nothing for team morale.

This! He's like the conplete opposite to what Klopp wants in his team and been getting worse with each passing season at Newcastle.

According to the Echo, our interest is real...

This! He's like the conplete opposite to what Klopp wants in his team and been getting worse with each passing season at Newcastle.

I thought this and yet he has played quite well for France.

I thought this and yet he has played quite well for France.

He has indeed mate... not forgetting that Rafa made Sissoko captain of his Newcastle team - something which would appear to counter the argument from folk who admittedly know Jürgen (and Sissoko) better than me that, being lazy, he's not a Jürgen type as Rafa is better known for his love of hard workers than his tolerance of lazy players.

For all it's worth; I know Sissoko is looking a move, that BvB have been linked and that he'd like to stay in the Premier League (stating L.F.C.) as his preference - whether L.F.C. want him... well that's a different matter.

Not the player we need and not good enough for this club.

Klopp is looking for size and strength in the middle of the park and Sissoko would fit the profile. A pair out of Sissoko, Can, Henderson or Grujic would make us defensively more solid in the middle of the park.

I thought this and yet he has played quite well for France.

I didn't even realise he was in the team to be honest. Too busy watching Payet and wishing he was in our team and not West Hams.

Klopp is looking for size and strength in the middle of the park and Sissoko would fit the profile. A pair out of Sissoko, Can, Henderson or Grujic would make us defensively more solid in the middle of the park.

Sissoko is in no way a defensive minded player he is an average box to box midfielder.

Pogba-lite if you will.

Sissoko would be another Charlie Adam-esque mistake!

Sissoko would be another Charlie Adam-esque mistake!

Without the set pieces.

If Klopp thinks sissoko is good enough for us then I will seriously start doubting him as manager.

He is average at best.

A perfect signing for FSG though. Still young, Cheap fee, cheap wages, no competition for his signature.

Without the set pieces.

and the pies

don't think we can look into the last couple seasons where newcastle newcastle'd him. would be a good cheap addition to the midfield.

On his appearances at the euro I'd sign him in an heartbat.
Clearly showed he's able to up his game far far above his meh displays at Newcastle, and we need such competitors in the squad.

On his appearances at the euro I'd sign him in an heartbat.
Clearly showed he's able to up his game far far above his meh displays at Newcastle, and we need such competitors in the squad.

the buying players on a back of a good international tournament is pretty much an invitation to flush money down the toilet

the buying players on a back of a good international tournament is pretty much an invitation to flush money down the toilet

Diao and Diouf are 2 perfect examples of wasted money,Totally agree with you.

He's played every game, or almost every game, for the soon to be European Champions.

Can't be as bad as some of you lot make out.

He's played every game, or almost every game, for the soon to be European Champions.

Can't be as bad as some of you lot make out.

I am not saying he is bad Si,just pointing out we should not buy a player just because of his World Cup or European Champions performance.That is why I named Diao and Diouf as examples.

would be a cheap addition to the midfield.

Corrected that for you

The problem I'd have with him is his end product. He'd only really be useful when we're protecting a lead or when we are against a team who has a lot of possession. Last season he got 1 goal and 8 assists in 37 league games. The season before that he got 4 goals and 2 assists. That's clearly his weakness because he's shown that he can work his arse off for the team.

Could he be the alternative in CM?

Can't say you are wrong about flavor of the month players from tournaments, but

a) Deschamps has seen something in him despite Moussa just had a very average season in a relegated team.
b) Klopp who I rate even higher has shown interest for him both at Dortmund and here
c) he confirmed in the Euro Deschamps was right calling him ; hadn't Griezmann scored the two goals Sissoko would likely have been MotM in the semi-final
d) imo he'd likely confirm as well Klopp was right recruiting him, if we end doing so
e) even if he doesn't he isn't much of a risk, just entering his prime, and likely sold at 12-15m max

One thing is for sure- there'll be some high level flip flopping to behold if Jürgen does sign him. 

One thing is for sure- there'll be some high level flip flopping to behold if Jürgen does sign him. 

Indeed. If people though the Mane signing induced some Olympic gymnastics, this will set off a full on Britains got talent acrobatic routine.

I am not saying he is bad Si,just pointing out we should not buy a player just because of his World Cup or European Champions performance.That is why I named Diao and Diouf as examples.

I'm not sure we are interested in Sissoko just because of his Euro performances though Bill.

I guess I don't see who he replaces or how he makes us better.

I'm not sure we are interested in Sissoko just because of his Euro performances though Bill.

Can't be his performances in the league either!

Can't say I'm overly enamoured if I'm honest,however his performances in the Euro's has been quite impressive, if Deschamps can get him to perform the way he has then I'm fairly confident Jürgen can too,
You can't really judge his form with Newcastle since most if not all of that side were basically sh*te all last season anyhoo,

I'm guessing if Jürgen were to tender a offer if indeed he wants him, that Rafa would fight to keep hold and not want to lose one of his better players.


YNWA

Can't be his performances in the league either!

Agree

Sissoko was playing as a right midfielder for part of the past two seasons so that will skew his stats also.

Firmly in the "no" corner.

Indeed. If people though the Mane signing induced some Olympic gymnastics, this will set off a full on Britains got talent acrobatic routine.

 

Diao and Diouf are 2 perfect examples of wasted money,Totally agree with you.

Its been clarified a hundred times not just on this forum (but other forums) that Diao and Diouf were signed before the tournament even began! I even remember seeing them being linked in the paper, days before Senegal played France, and Diao had signed a pre-contract on the day of the match.

Its been clarified a hundred times not just on this forum (but other forums) that Diao and Diouf were signed before the tournament even began! I even remember seeing them being linked in the paper, days before Senegal played France, and Diao had signed a pre-contract on the day of the match.

They were still rubbish whatever you look at it and never deserved to be at this club.

I guess I don't see who he replaces or how he makes us better.

A player Ibe's sale money would suffice to buy is not supposed to be first choice for every game.
Considering how many months Henderson and Allen spent injured or having awful spells since they are here, and Milner was better as winger than as CM, I wouldn't be afraid having an extra central midfielder. He may not be an improvement over Hendo in top form or Allen having his occasionnal excellent game, or Lucas when there are more mobile and creative players to complement him, he may certainly be one over the playing-through-pain Hendo or Joe in invisible mode we had to suffer sometimes or improve the slower than slow midfield we have when Lucas is paired with players not in top form.
Having a more athletic and better header type may also help adapting to those annoying ultra-physical second half of the table teams we regularly have difficulties to beat.

Not being funny the bloke looks like a world beater in this final so far.

Wonder if he will start to realise his potential..was excellent against Germany and is having a great game in the final - best player so far

Not being funny the bloke looks like a world beater in this final so far.

He's looked very good hasn't he Mick, that run then the lad tried to shoulder charge him to take him out of the game and ended up coming off second best. Beastly.

I understand the criticism and reluctance to want to sign him but he's been a stud for France this tournament. I'd take this Sissoko.

He's looked very good hasn't he Mick, that run then the lad tried to shoulder charge him to take him out of the game and ended up coming off second best. Beastly.

I've never really watched him that much Luke, but f*** me he's on fire in this game.

Not being funny the bloke looks like a world beater in this final so far.

Yep, he looks like what Pogba is supposed to look like.

I've never really watched him that much Luke, but f*** me he's on fire in this game.

Yeah I'm in a similar boat, certainly sparking my interest now.....

Off he goes again!

Doing his prospects no harm tonight

Same Sissoko that rocked up for Newcastle the first couple months he played for them.

Only hit that form again after he was flirting with Arsenal a little while ago.

Still swerving him. Hate players like that.

Not being funny the bloke looks like a world beater in this final so far.

He's a F***ing beast of a lad too.

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sissoko  he lot better then Jordon Henderson and milner put together,

sissoko  he lot better then Jordon Henderson and milner put together,

Only when he plays for France :p

Big mate of big Mamma, look who he played with and under at Newcastle, i'd take a gamble at mooted price, think he'd do well here.

sissoko  he lot better then Jordon Henderson and milner put together,

Yeah, he's not...

Sissoko turns up to play for about five games a season, if that.

He has had a few good games for France at this tournament, that's true.

But lets face it, if you can 't flog yourself and put in some of your most committed performances for your country at a home tournament then when would you?

There is a reason he has been swanning around as the biggest and laziest fish in a small pond at Newcastle. He simply doesn't perform at a decent level often enough because if he did he wouldn't have been on the slowly sinking ship known as Newcastle.

When we get linked with players like this and people go all in for it I'm genuinely baffled. Does no one associated with this club ever learn from our previous instances of taking inconsistent players for big fees from other Premier League clubs?

Yeah, he's not...

Sissoko turns up to play for about five games a season, if that.

He has had a few good games for France at this tournament, that's true.

But lets face it, if you can 't flog yourself and put in some of your most committed performances for your country at a home tournament then when would you?

There is a reason he has been swanning around as the biggest and laziest fish in a small pond at Newcastle. He simply doesn't perform at a decent level often enough because if he did he wouldn't have been on the slowly sinking ship known as Newcastle.

When we get linked with players like this and people go all in for it I'm genuinely baffled. Does no one associated with this club ever learn from our previous instances of taking inconsistent players for big fees from other Premier League clubs?

Well he must have done something to impress during the season, or surely he wouldn't of made the French squad for the Euro's ?

Yeah, he's not...

Sissoko turns up to play for about five games a season, if that.

He has had a few good games for France at this tournament, that's true.

But lets face it, if you can 't flog yourself and put in some of your most committed performances for your country at a home tournament then when would you?

There is a reason he has been swanning around as the biggest and laziest fish in a small pond at Newcastle. He simply doesn't perform at a decent level often enough because if he did he wouldn't have been on the slowly sinking ship known as Newcastle.

When we get linked with players like this and people go all in for it I'm genuinely baffled. Does no one associated with this club ever learn from our previous instances of taking inconsistent players for big fees from other Premier League clubs?

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YNWA

What's incredible is he is starting games ahead of Kante who won the PL..and to be fair France have not missed Kante at all,  Sissoko has been brilliant.

Had good games in the last 2 or 3 for France in the Euros but that doesn't excuse his horrific performances for Newcastle over the last couple of years.

Don't give me this 'he was in a sh*t team' or 'he had a sh*t manager' nonsense either.  Put Steven Gerrard in any team in the world and he will still be Steven Gerrard.

Sissoko comes across as one of those players who sulks and doesn't give a sh*t if things don't go his way. So it's a massive no for me. Id rather not take 'a gamble'. The last gamble we took was F***ing Balotelli.

Had good games in the last 2 or 3 for France in the Euros but that doesn't excuse his horrific performances for Newcastle over the last couple of years.

Don't give me this 'he was in a sh*t team' or 'he had a sh*t manager' nonsense either.  Put Steven Gerrard in any team in the world and he will still be Steven Gerrard.

Sissoko comes across as one of those players who sulks and doesn't give a sh*t if things don't go his way. So it's a massive no for me. Id rather not take 'a gamble'. The last gamble we took was f**king Balotelli.

So is Steven Gerrard still being Steven Gerrard for LA Galaxy then, is he bollocks? Of course the quality and mentality of the team you play in can have a massive effect and Newcastle until Rafa turned up was a complete and utter basket case of a club, still is to most extents. The interesting thing is how much better this lad has played with good players around him, I'd say he'd be worth a punt for the right price.

The last gamble we took was F***ing Balotelli.

Two completely different animals.

sissoko  he lot better then Jordon Henderson and milner put together,

Here we go, a few days into pre-season and the Henderson bashing begins again. This time he's not even half as good as a player who hasn't turned in one good performance in the Premier League and disappoints for a team who got relegated.

So is Steven Gerrard still being Steven Gerrard for LA Galaxy then, is he bollocks? Of course the quality and mentality of the team you play in can have a massive effect and Newcastle until Rafa turned up was a complete and utter basket case of a club, still is to most extents. The interesting thing is how much better this lad has played with good players around him, I'd say he'd be worth a punt for the right price.

I don't watch MLS so I have no idea how Steven is getting on but you missed my point anyway. A steven gerrard in his prime still would have been a top player/professional in any team, under any manager, in any circumstances.

Totally disagree about the quality and mentality of the team. Perhaps if you're seven years old then yes maybe its ok to sulk when you lose. But not when your a professional being paid thousands per week.

Two completely different animals.

Maybe not as extreme as Balotelli, but some similarities. Both players probably have something in their locker but pick and choose when they show it.

Here we go, a few days into pre-season and the Henderson bashing begins again. This time he's not even half as good as a player who hasn't turned in one good performance in the Premier League and disappoints for a team who got relegated.

I know, it's F***ing mental isn't it?

What's incredible is he is starting games ahead of Kante who won the PL..and to be fair France have not missed Kante at all,  Sissoko has been brilliant.

Well since they used a 4-2-3-1 and they play Matuidi and Pogba in the middle, Sissoko didn't play ahead of Kante as Kante can't play out wide.

Newcastle want £35m for Sissoko! 

Newcastle want £35m for Sissoko! 

They can swivel.

They can swivel.

Why? It's the going rate now. If Mane is £34 mill, João Mário valued at £40 mill, Palace are willing to spend £32 million on Benteke, and Pogba is £100 million, then £35 million is about right for this player.

Why? It's the going rate now. If Mane is £34 mill, João Mário valued at £40 mill, Palace are willing to spend £32 million on Benteke, and Pogba is £100 million, then £35 million is about right for this player.

How is it about right for a player that has been poor for the last 2 seasons now. If that's the going rate for that player then we've gotten a bargain with Mane who's got 25 goals in 2 seasons + assists.
A £35mill fee cant be justified just because he had a decent International tournament.

Why? It's the going rate now. If Mane is £34 mill, João Mário valued at £40 mill, Palace are willing to spend £32 million on Benteke, and Pogba is £100 million, then £35 million is about right for this player.

Sissoko @ £35m? You'd be one of the first to kick up a fuss if we spent anything close to that on him.

Sissoko @ £35m? You'd be one of the first to kick up a fuss if we spent anything close to that on him.

Agreed.

Mane for £30 million and you're having a bloody laugh

Sissoko @ £35m? You'd be one of the first to kick up a fuss if we spent anything close to that on him.

Don't be a dickhead, I said it's the going rate. If Mane is £35 million and Benteke is £32.5 million then Sissoko is clearly worth £34 million since he falls into the same bracket. Doesn't mean I want us to sign him, just means that's the going rate these days. The new TV deal inflated all transfer fees.

If Sissoko is worth £35million after a couple of good games at the Euro's just think what Joe Allen is worth!

If Sissoko is worth £35million after a couple of good games at the Euro's just think what Joe Allen is worth!

More than we're asking for him. Pogba at £100 million doesn't even make UEFA Team of the tournament, Joe did. Transfer fees are madness these days. Oh and before another dickhead makes an idiotic comment, no, I'm not suggesting Joe is worth £100 million.

If Sissoko is worth £35million after a couple of good games at the Euro's just think what Joe Allen is worth!

We'll sell Joe for £10M probably

Joes in his final year of his contract so we don't have a leg to stand on. Might as well sell him for 10m now rather than rotate him all season and lose him on a free next summer.

As for sissoko being 35m that is just ridiculous. Just because clubs like palace are retarded doesn't mean we should overspend too.

they're most likely only saying that because we are genuinely interested. we can't deal with newcastle, they are complete pieces of sh*t. someone else will buy this guy for under 20 mil.

If he plays like he did in the Euro final every week he's worth all of 35 mill to be fair. The problem is he clearly doesn't, otherwise they wouldn't have got relegated. If though we got him and Jürgen could get him to play like that, he'd be a monster player for us.

If Klopp thinks sissoko is good enough for us then I will seriously start doubting him as manager.

He is average at best.

A perfect signing for FSG though. Still young, Cheap fee, cheap wages, no competition for his signature.

By  now we should have already gotten used to FSG SOP in the bargain bins. 6 years down the road same old same old SOP. All too familiar, starts with guns blazing in acquisition of Mane then gone all silent until the start of the season.. Year in year out same old story.

Don't rate him. Even i his good games he has the subtlety of a punch to the bollocks.

In his bad games he's a disinterested donkey at best.

By  now we should have already gotten used to FSG SOP in the bargain bins. 6 years down the road same old same old SOP. All too familiar, starts with guns blazing in acquisition of Mane then gone all silent until the start of the season.. Year in year out same old story.

They were going to sanction £38m on Alex Tex but Klopp thought it was too high.

By  now we should have already gotten used to FSG SOP in the bargain bins. 6 years down the road same old same old SOP. All too familiar, starts with guns blazing in acquisition of Mane then gone all silent until the start of the season.. Year in year out same old story.

don't think there will be any signings before some of the LFC players are sold
YNWA

As much I rate him as much I wouldn't support the purchase at this kind of price.

If NC consider a good perf in a tournament to be worth +20m, perhaps we should propose them a switch, offering Mario our future ballon d'or, arguing he was as bright in euro 2012.

Sissoko @ £35m? You'd be one of the first to kick up a fuss if we spent anything close to that on him.

and me.

Played Toulouse in 2007 .... game I saw ...... and he could have come back for nowt in the hand luggage.

Funny thing was .... we had a Sissoko playing as well.
Both players were wearing No 22 on their shirt.

It was Nando's CL Debut.