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      Ovie Ejaria Player Thread (on loan at Rangers)

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      Re: Ovie Ejaria
      Reply #30: Jul 18, 2016 04:26:59 pm
      Fed never gets excited about our players and gets ragged for it, now he's excited about one of our players and he's ragged for it. Certainly doesn't help himself sometimes but he can't win :D
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      Re: Ovie Ejaria
      Reply #31: Jul 18, 2016 04:28:29 pm
      Give him chance, he's just a kid trying to find his feet.
       

      Not basing on preseason games,i was talking about his games for the u-18's.He grew into his ability as it were,same with ojo.Playing at a higher level he may not get the same results on the ball but he can't let that get into his head.
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      Reply #32: Jul 18, 2016 04:38:27 pm
      Fed never gets excited about our players and gets ragged for it, now he's excited about one of our players and he's ragged for it. Certainly doesn't help himself sometimes but he can't win :D

      It's not just being excited about a young player though, he has to add bullshit to it by saying things like he's miles better than Henderson already, he should replace Henderson as one of the 2 mids in the starting 11 etc.
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      Reply #33: Jul 18, 2016 04:41:07 pm
      Thing with young players is that you know. From the first touch you can tell which one is class and the ones that would grow with the game.

      Not all prospects make it to become great, but the beautiful thing about the game is for prospect to even make it to first team games in a premiership team is already an achievement, talk less of having a premier league career before we start discussion legend status.

      So yes i'm one of the few ones that get excited when I see a new prospect, its something for me to dream about, something new to follow, a new career I hope would pan out to be the next Stevie G, not one of those who believe solely in signing big names, cos every big name started small from somewhere.

      So please excuse the scouts in some of us that makes us excited when we see what we hope to be the next best thing in the game.

      That's why the game is so romantic.
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      Re: Ovie Ejaria
      Reply #34: Jul 18, 2016 04:46:36 pm
      It's not just being excited about a young player though, he has to add bullshit to it by saying things like he's miles better than Henderson already, he should replace Henderson as one of the 2 mids in the starting 11 etc.

      Different strokes for different folks. Not everyone likes Hendo, or Sakho, or Lallana, or Moreno, etc......

      For me personally Henderson is frustrating. I so badly want him to step up and be our next Stevie G type player but he is so inconsistent.
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      Re: Ovie Ejaria
      Reply #35: Jul 18, 2016 08:38:24 pm

      What was Henderson's excuse?  He'd already played three league seasons before coming to us.  And he was still rubbish.

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      Reply #36: Jul 19, 2016 07:13:02 am
       

      Not basing on preseason games,i was talking about his games for the u-18's.He grew into his ability as it were,same with ojo.Playing at a higher level he may not get the same results on the ball but he can't let that get into his head.

      It's either you have it or you don't. Ovie is improving and can do it our level, just give him time. Even Klopp was saying this!
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      Re: Ovie Ejaria
      Reply #37: Jul 19, 2016 07:33:10 am
      I am VERY excited by this kid and fancy him to break into the first team squad this season. He has been excellent in all three pre-season games so far. His touch is superb, he has got really quick feet and close ball control, he turns well and is always looking to play the ball forwards. He has also shown he has the strength to hold it up with his back to goal. I really like him, he looks like a creative player who can break the lines and make things happen. We don't have anyone like that in our current group of CMs. Can he tackle, shoot and head a ball? We'll see but I really like him.
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      Reply #38: Jul 19, 2016 08:09:46 am
      Bloody hell talk about over hyping give the kid a chance.

      And besides you do realise these have been meaningless friendlies, it's a world away from the pace and intensity of facing a PL player.
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      Reply #39: Jul 19, 2016 11:30:02 pm
      Bloody hell talk about over hyping give the kid a chance.

      And besides you do realise these have been meaningless friendlies, it's a world away from the pace and intensity of facing a PL player.

      It's not like the lad is reading the thread is it? What's not to get excited about, he has looked very impressive, everyone gets excited if a new signing comes in and looks the part in pre-season so I don't see why it should be any different for one of the youngsters?

      Besides, our centre-midfield is fookin shi...te so it's not wonder a few of us are getting excited when we see a player who cope offer an alternative to the industrial workmanlike performances we can expect from the incumbents in that role.
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      Reply #40: Jul 21, 2016 08:21:46 am
      Saw highlights of yesterday's friendly match against Huddersfield, this lad seemed to get a bit of airtime.

      Can anyone provide an objective review of his performance pending when I see the full match?
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      Reply #41: Jul 25, 2016 07:46:35 am
      And here I ask you a very direct question: how many times have you watched Ejaria play?

      Why am I not surprised a week has passed and federer couldn't answer a very simple question such as this? Too busy seeking attention elsewhere, this one has gone cold it seems...
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      Reply #42: Jul 25, 2016 12:03:16 pm
      Can someone please add "Player Thread" after Ovie's name?

      It's driving  me mad ;D
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      Reply #43: Jul 26, 2016 11:54:59 am
      Can someone please add "Player Thread" after Ovie's name?

      It's driving  me mad ;D

      Bump!
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      Reply #44: Jul 27, 2016 09:41:10 am

      Bump again -  the interest in poor Ovie has certainly dropped a lot
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      Reply #45: Jul 28, 2016 09:14:49 am
      Bump again  - can also add Taiwo Awoniyi to my list
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      Re: Ovie Ejaria
      Reply #46: Jul 28, 2016 10:53:18 am
      Bump again  - can also add Taiwo Awoniyi to my list

      No interest dropped from my end mate he was by far our stand out player against Chelsea. He looked like he could really play a few notches higher too. I mean that in terms of his team-mates dropping to a slower pace. I think he's got the brain for it and the ability looks there to match, very exciting young player this.
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      Reply #47: Jul 28, 2016 06:25:45 pm
      No interest dropped from my end mate he was by far our stand out player against Chelsea. He looked like he could really play a few notches higher too. I mean that in terms of his team-mates dropping to a slower pace. I think he's got the brain for it and the ability looks there to match, very exciting young player this.

      The one moment in the first half when he got away from the Chelsea midfielder and waltzed past 2 or 3 Chelsea players with excellent close footwork and control showed he can do that at a higher level.

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      Re: Ovie Ejaria Player Thread
      Reply #48: Jul 28, 2016 07:34:10 pm
      No drop in interest from me that's for sure, I didn't see the game but the first thing I did when I got home from work today was jump onto YouTube and type in Ejaria vs Chelsea (see below). By far the most exciting thing about our pre-season thus far. Telling that he appears to be the only Academy youngster to get a start in this one? I frickin hope that J├╝rgen is considering using the lad from the outset this season. I wouldn't be sending him back to the Academy to play under 21s, this kid needs to go right into the squad. Love the way he ghosts past players.

      He will need to cut out the silly drag backs and tricks when he is receiving the ball under pressure as the deepest lying midfielder as he did at one point in this game, particularly when things are more frenetic in a real game BUT he is incredibly promising and has been the standout player of our pre-season so far. I'm eager to see if the lad has a shot on him, I'd like to see him swing the boot at a couple.

      https://youtu.be/K_RxhUuHKFQ

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      Reply #49: Jul 29, 2016 01:41:50 pm
      Bump again -  the interest in poor Ovie has certainly dropped a lot

      It has, I am so excited by this kid, I'm surprised he isn't getting more of a mention. If we had just signed this lad in the summer I am certain he would be getting a lot more attention
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      Reply #50: Jul 29, 2016 04:01:09 pm
      It has, I am so excited by this kid, I'm surprised he isn't getting more of a mention. If we had just signed this lad in the summer I am certain he would be getting a lot more attention

      I think everyone's pretty wary about getting overly excited about our younger guys. A good majority of players this age, and even older for us (up to 23), have collapsed for us after showing preseasons as good or even better than Ejaria has shown this far.

      Suso, Joao Carlos Teixeira, Rossiter, Conor Coady, Robinson, Pacheco, etc...

      Not many have actually made it through recently, especially considering how excited we've all gotten for some of these guys who rarely even get more than a few chances in actual meaningful games before they're shipped off. Tough to generate any real sustainable excitement about it anymore over them, for me at least.
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      Reply #51: Jul 29, 2016 05:24:32 pm
      It's not so much that interest has dropped but people have to be realistic about the situation. We currently play a 4-2-3-1 and there are 5 or 6 players in front of him in the pecking order. I don't expect him to get an awful lot of game time in the first team this season. Of course he'll be in and around the first team squad for training and stuff but IMO he should be in the under-21's for games.

      He still has developing to do and the only way for him to develop is to take what he's learnt with the first team into regular game situations. It's not as though there's any rush to force him into the first team. If it happens then it happens but if not then it certainly won't do him any harm.

      Edit: I forgot to add that in the Echo it's said that the Nigeria manager is looking to give him an international call up in September should Ejaria decide to commit to Nigeria over England.
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      Re: Ovie Ejaria Player Thread
      Reply #52: Jul 30, 2016 09:18:33 pm
      I think everyone's pretty wary about getting overly excited about our younger guys. A good majority of players this age, and even older for us (up to 23), have collapsed for us after showing preseasons as good or even better than Ejaria has shown this far.

      Suso, Joao Carlos Teixeira, Rossiter, Conor Coady, Robinson, Pacheco, etc...

      Not many have actually made it through recently, especially considering how excited we've all gotten for some of these guys who rarely even get more than a few chances in actual meaningful games before they're shipped off. Tough to generate any real sustainable excitement about it anymore over them, for me at least.

      It's a good point, I was pretty excited about Suso when he was coming through the youth ranks and I still think Rossiter has a lot of promise. I can't say I got too excited about the others. I'd forgotten all about Jack Robinson! I think this kid can be better than the lot of them though.

      It's not so much that interest has dropped but people have to be realistic about the situation. We currently play a 4-2-3-1 and there are 5 or 6 players in front of him in the pecking order. I don't expect him to get an awful lot of game time in the first team this season. Of course he'll be in and around the first team squad for training and stuff but IMO he should be in the under-21's for games.



      If the likes of Henderson, Can and Milner trot out the 6/10 & 7/10 performances that we have seen for the past two seasons I would have no problem throwing this lad in to see what he can do. I guess it will all depend on what J├╝rgen thinks of his centre midfield.
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      Re: Ovie Ejaria Player Thread
      Reply #53: Jul 30, 2016 09:51:20 pm
      and around the first team squad for training and stuff but IMO he should be in the under-21's for games.

      He still has developing to do and the only way for him to develop is to take what he's learnt with the first team into regular game situations. It's not as though there's any rush to force him into the first team. If it happens then it happens but if not then it certainly won't do him any harm.

      Edit: I forgot to add that in the Echo it's said that the Nigeria manager is looking to give him an international call up in September should Ejaria decide to commit to Nigeria over England.

      And at the first sign of a bad performance he'll be jumped on, chewed up and spat back out by those that have zero patience. It happened with the likes of Chirivella & at times Stewart last season. 

      There's seriously no rush to force him into the team. He's played well in a few friendlies, people need to calm their sh*t down :D.
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      Reply #54: Jul 30, 2016 10:02:28 pm
      And at the first sign of a bad performance he'll be jumped on, chewed up and spat back out by those that have zero patience. It happened with the likes of Chirivella & at times Stewart last season. 

      There's seriously no rush to force him into the team. He's played well in a few friendlies, people need to calm their sh*t down :D.

      Hey it's a game of opinions, our midfield is incredibly average and this kid looks a real talent. Kevin Stewart got jumped on because he is a million miles from being good enough. With a bit of luck Wjinaldum will prove to be the answer but if not I really like what Ejaria brings to the table.
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      Re: Ovie Ejaria Player Thread
      Reply #55: Jul 30, 2016 10:26:41 pm
      There's seriously no rush to force him into the team. He's played well in a few friendlies, people need to calm their sh*t down :D.

      I agree, there is no rush to force him into the team, and people who are excited about him do need to calm their sh*t down (people like me), but who can blame us with the amount of technical mediocrity we have seen in our midfield for the last few seasons? :p

      I'm with Scottbot on this, I think this kid looks fantastic, technically very good, composed and for an 18 yr old, has a good build. I'm f**king excited and want to see him given a lot of game time, nurturing him into professional football and embedded into the team as quick as possible :D

      Him and Wjinaldum will be a breath of fresh air in the midfield, can't wait!
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      Re: Ovie Ejaria Player Thread
      Reply #56: Jul 31, 2016 01:59:35 am
      And at the first sign of a bad performance he'll be jumped on, chewed up and spat back out by those that have zero patience. It happened with the likes of Chirivella & at times Stewart last season. 

      There's seriously no rush to force him into the team. He's played well in a few friendlies, people need to calm their sh*t down :D.
      Do you mean the same way we calmed it down when Stevie broke through ,fck all wrong being excited about the next star lets just hope he is .
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      Re: Ovie Ejaria Player Thread
      Reply #57: Jul 31, 2016 11:36:26 am
      I get that people are excited by what Ovie has shown recently but seriously folks, he barely bossed it at u18s level last season and is still to establish himself in the u21s now 23s. 

      Players at this age can have huge jumps in development from nowhere, then seemingly fail to maintain it, never mind continue that development curve.  Leave him be to come to terms with what he's done before pushing him to a level he's not yet ready or mentally prepared for.

      I'm absolutely positive that when and if J├╝rgen thinks it's time for him to play at senior level, he'll play and there's no point putting unnecessary pressure on him to be the answer to all our midfield woes at 18 years of age.
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      Reply #58: Jul 31, 2016 11:51:32 am
      Do you mean the same way we calmed it down when Stevie broke through ,fck all wrong being excited about the next star lets just hope he is .

      Did I say there was anything wrong? After 2 pre-season performances Fed was saying how he should be our starting CM, that's the sh*t we need to avoid. A fair number of fans these days can't seem to be excited and realistic at the same time. All you ever see is how they're going to be the next this or that after 1 game. There were people seriously comparing him to f**king Pogba!
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      Re: Ovie Ejaria Player Thread
      Reply #59: Jul 31, 2016 11:52:44 am
      I get that people are excited by what Ovie has shown recently but seriously folks, he barely bossed it at u18s level last season and is still to establish himself in the u21s now 23s. 

      Players at this age can have huge jumps in development from nowhere, then seemingly fail to maintain it, never mind continue that development curve.  Leave him be to come to terms with what he's done before pushing him to a level he's not yet ready or mentally prepared for.

      I'm absolutely positive that when and if J├╝rgen thinks it's time for him to play at senior level, he'll play and there's no point putting unnecessary pressure on him to be the answer to all our midfield woes at 18 years of age.

      Yeah that's all true and I do get the feeling that Ovie may only get the odd appearance in the league cup to begin with but.....







      He's bloody good though isn't he??!!??!! When's he starting??!!??!! :D

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