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      Ovie Ejaria Player Thread (on loan at Reading)

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      Re: Ovie Ejaria Player Thread
      Reply #60: Jul 31, 2016 12:01:47 pm
      Worth reading the Pep Ljinders  (probably wrong spelling) interview that Danzel (possibly wrong spelling again :) ) put up yesterday in his thread.

      Some interesting stuff regarding Ovie.
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      Reply #61: Jul 31, 2016 12:03:00 pm
      Yeah that's all true and I do get the feeling that Ovie may only get the odd appearance in the league cup to begin with but.....







      He's bloody good though isn't he??!!??!! When's he starting??!!??!! :D

      I agree mate but think about this for one second - there's a reason he didn't have his own player thread until he played that 1st pre season game, that reason being that he'd failed ever to play well enough or consistently enough at Youth level to warrant one.

      He's come from nowhere, a bit like Rashford for the scum.  He was never one to be raved over as one for the future and he could very easily disappear again just as quickly. 

      He has plenty of time on his side, there really is no need to put him in spotlight of the PL before he's come to terms with the jump in quality he's just delivered.

      He will get games or at least minutes if he continues at that level or better in training and with the u23s but fan expectation can kill him at this stage.
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      Reply #62: Jul 31, 2016 12:19:04 pm
      I remember Fabregas breaking into the Arsenal first time at the age of 16 and staying there until his move away.

      If a player is genuinly good enough, they should be involved around the first team, no matter their age. Would love to see Ejaria start the cup games and the odd first team game too - maybe more if the other midfielders slack.
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      Reply #63: Jul 31, 2016 12:28:35 pm
      Did I say there was anything wrong? After 2 pre-season performances Fed was saying how he should be our starting CM, that's the sh*t we need to avoid. A fair number of fans these days can't seem to be excited and realistic at the same time. All you ever see is how they're going to be the next this or that after 1 game. There were people seriously comparing him to f**king Pogba!


      Agree with that there is a fine line between  getting excited about a player and going completely over the top , I do thing klopp will give him game time and let him develop into the player we all hope he can be .
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      Reply #64: Jul 31, 2016 05:26:12 pm
      I agree mate but think about this for one second - there's a reason he didn't have his own player thread until he played that 1st pre season game, that reason being that he'd failed ever to play well enough or consistently enough at Youth level to warrant one.

      He's come from nowhere, a bit like Rashford for the scum.  He was never one to be raved over as one for the future and he could very easily disappear again just as quickly. 

      He has plenty of time on his side, there really is no need to put him in spotlight of the PL before he's come to terms with the jump in quality he's just delivered.

      He will get games or at least minutes if he continues at that level or better in training and with the u23s but fan expectation can kill him at this stage.

      For all my joking above Debs I honestly 100% agree with you and as for your knowledge of our youth footy I take your word as gospel.
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      Reply #65: Jul 31, 2016 06:16:49 pm
      For all my joking above Debs I honestly 100% agree with you and as for your knowledge of our youth footy I take your word as gospel.

      Well he surprised me mate so that shows how much I know  :D
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      Re: Ovie Ejaria Player Thread
      Reply #66: Jul 31, 2016 07:59:59 pm
      I'd like to see him given games by Klopp and hopefully gear him slowly up for  next season, if trained and taught well he could be a wonderful player for us.
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      Reply #68: Sep 21, 2016 06:32:02 am
      Chuffed to see Ovie get his competitive debut for LFC last night following his promotion to the bench for the Chelsea game. This kid is too good not to force his way into the managers thinking this season
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      Re: Ovie Ejaria Player Thread
      Reply #69: Oct 08, 2016 04:11:20 pm
      Got an assist on his England u20s debut in the 3-1 defeat of Germany.
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      Reply #70: Oct 10, 2016 09:58:57 pm
      Scored the first goal for England u20s in the 2-0 win against the USA.  Been a good tournament for Ovie, keep it up lad.
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      Re: Ovie Ejaria Player Thread
      Reply #71: Oct 10, 2016 10:11:05 pm
      It seems he's following on from Ojo's performances in a tournament during the summer(?).
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      Reply #72: Oct 10, 2016 10:21:57 pm
      It seems he's following on from Ojo's performances in a tournament during the summer(?).

      The way our midfielders are dropping like flies, he could find himself on the bench next Monday.  2 of the 3 injured, just Hendo to go now and he could be playing  ;D

      I know, I know, we've got Can, Grujic, Lucas, Milner, Cou who can all come in but fs, we no sooner get a decent midfield sorted and within a week or so it all falls apart.  At least Can got a full 90 under his belt yesterday.
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      Reply #73: Oct 10, 2016 10:34:13 pm
      The way our midfielders are dropping like flies, he could find himself on the bench next Monday.  2 of the 3 injured, just Hendo to go now and he could be playing  ;D

      I know, I know, we've got Can, Grujic, Lucas, Milner, Cou who can all come in but fs, we no sooner get a decent midfield sorted and within a week or so it all falls apart.  At least Can got a full 90 under his belt yesterday.

      F**k sake, had no idea Wijnaldum had picked up a hamstring injury. It happens during every single international break, pisses me off.
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      Reply #74: Oct 10, 2016 10:45:11 pm
      F**k sake, had no idea Wijnaldum had picked up a hamstring injury. It happens during every single international break, pisses me off.

      Yep I mockered him mate after saying he should poleaxe the pog  :mad:
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      Re: Ovie Ejaria Player Thread
      Reply #75: Oct 26, 2016 11:08:49 pm
      Was a tough game for Ovie last night particularly in the first half when there was zero time on the ball and he got bullied somewhat. He did show a few glimpses of quality when he moved inside though and I'm certain that is more suited to a central role where his quick feet are most suited. Needs to work on his strength and conditioning on last night's evidence though.
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      Re: Ovie Ejaria Player Thread
      Reply #76: Nov 22, 2016 06:18:08 pm
      Played well again on Sunday so looking forward to seeing his involvement next week against Leeds.

      Explained: The experiences inspiring Ejaria's progress

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      It's a telling sign of Ovie Ejaria's progress that a recent two-week period saw the Liverpool midfielder make his Anfield debut, play in a Premier League game and travel to South Korea for an international tournament.

      A handful of pre-season opportunities for Jürgen Klopp’s Reds had served notice of the 19-year-old’s potential during the summer, with his physical prowess, calm touch and strong mentality on show.

      But the target for Ejaria when the campaign started remained to establish himself as a key man for Michael Beale’s U23s and further build on an encouraging couple of years at the Academy.

      The former Arsenal starlet knew the perils of looking too far ahead.  He knew more hard work would be asked of him to ensure his development didn’t stop.  He knew Klopp would be watching.

      And so it proved.

      Ejaria was introduced as a substitute at Derby County in the EFL Cup for his first senior appearance and then earned a maiden start when Tottenham Hotspur visited in the fourth round.

      The England youth international lined up in midfield alongside Marko Grujic, Kevin Stewart and Georginio Wijnaldum – with the latter later commenting on how the less experienced trio around him had exhibited no nerves.

      “It’s going really well in and around the first team, I’m really enjoying it and hopefully I can stay there if I keep doing well,” Ejaria told Liverpoolfc.com.

      On Sunday afternoon, he was on duty for the U23s as they welcomed Reading to Prenton Park for a Premier League 2 fixture that they were in control of for long periods.

      He was at the centre of plenty of productive play en route to a 2-0 victory for the young Reds, which was achieved courtesy of goals in either half from Mamadou Sakho and Ben Woodburn.

      And after the final whistle, the London-born youngster explained why the role he is currently being given by Beale allows his talents to affect matches.

      Ejaria said: “He lets me play with a lot of freedom, and I do well when I’m playing with freedom. It’s really good and I’m enjoying it.

      “I was getting a lot of the ball and creating chances [against Reading]. I was trying to score as well, which is something I’m trying to add to my game.

      “It was really good, especially in the first half. We should have been three or four up. But we dug in second half and got the win.”

      His poise was the catalyst for the opener, as he fashioned a one-two and saw a low shot towards the bottom corner pushed into the path of Sakho for a rebound.

      “Ovie stamped his authority on the game early on, didn’t he?” Beale reflected.

      Elsewhere, a new avenue for Ejaria’s advancement has also been found with the England U20 side, including a trip to Asia earlier this month for a four-team international tournament.

      “A really good experience,” was his measured description of the long-haul journey across the world, where he featured in two games and scored one goal.

      That opportunity followed a fine strike for the Young Lions in a meeting with USA the previous month, as they prepare for the U20 World Cup next year.

      “When we saw Ejaria initially, you could see he was a lad with really good technical ability and he was one who was going to come through,” said former Liverpool striker David Fairclough in analysing his progress on Sunday.

      “This season, he has come through really strongly.  Jürgen Klopp involved him, [Trent] Alexander-Arnold and Woodburn in pre-season, and I think they all gained a lot of experience from it and a lot of confidence as well.

      “They have just all got to build on that now.  But clearly they are three Jürgen Klopp thinks could become really good players in the fullness of time.”

      On a seperate note it seems the England Youth set up are determined to break our best players. 

      After ruining Rossiter when he was played 3 times in less than a week, they've gone and done exactly the same with TAA. 

      3 games in 5 days, again!!  Fair enough he's not injured himself doing so but are they really that f**king useless that they think this is acceptable?
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      Reply #77: Nov 22, 2016 06:40:43 pm
      Played well again on Sunday so looking forward to seeing his involvement next week against Leeds.

      Explained: The experiences inspiring Ejaria's progress

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      It's a telling sign of Ovie Ejaria's progress that a recent two-week period saw the Liverpool midfielder make his Anfield debut, play in a Premier League game and travel to South Korea for an international tournament.

      A handful of pre-season opportunities for Jürgen Klopp’s Reds had served notice of the 19-year-old’s potential during the summer, with his physical prowess, calm touch and strong mentality on show.

      But the target for Ejaria when the campaign started remained to establish himself as a key man for Michael Beale’s U23s and further build on an encouraging couple of years at the Academy.

      The former Arsenal starlet knew the perils of looking too far ahead.  He knew more hard work would be asked of him to ensure his development didn’t stop.  He knew Klopp would be watching.

      And so it proved.

      Ejaria was introduced as a substitute at Derby County in the EFL Cup for his first senior appearance and then earned a maiden start when Tottenham Hotspur visited in the fourth round.

      The England youth international lined up in midfield alongside Marko Grujic, Kevin Stewart and Georginio Wijnaldum – with the latter later commenting on how the less experienced trio around him had exhibited no nerves.

      “It’s going really well in and around the first team, I’m really enjoying it and hopefully I can stay there if I keep doing well,” Ejaria told Liverpoolfc.com.

      On Sunday afternoon, he was on duty for the U23s as they welcomed Reading to Prenton Park for a Premier League 2 fixture that they were in control of for long periods.

      He was at the centre of plenty of productive play en route to a 2-0 victory for the young Reds, which was achieved courtesy of goals in either half from Mamadou Sakho and Ben Woodburn.

      And after the final whistle, the London-born youngster explained why the role he is currently being given by Beale allows his talents to affect matches.

      Ejaria said: “He lets me play with a lot of freedom, and I do well when I’m playing with freedom. It’s really good and I’m enjoying it.

      “I was getting a lot of the ball and creating chances [against Reading]. I was trying to score as well, which is something I’m trying to add to my game.

      “It was really good, especially in the first half. We should have been three or four up. But we dug in second half and got the win.”

      His poise was the catalyst for the opener, as he fashioned a one-two and saw a low shot towards the bottom corner pushed into the path of Sakho for a rebound.

      “Ovie stamped his authority on the game early on, didn’t he?” Beale reflected.

      Elsewhere, a new avenue for Ejaria’s advancement has also been found with the England U20 side, including a trip to Asia earlier this month for a four-team international tournament.

      “A really good experience,” was his measured description of the long-haul journey across the world, where he featured in two games and scored one goal.

      That opportunity followed a fine strike for the Young Lions in a meeting with USA the previous month, as they prepare for the U20 World Cup next year.

      “When we saw Ejaria initially, you could see he was a lad with really good technical ability and he was one who was going to come through,” said former Liverpool striker David Fairclough in analysing his progress on Sunday.

      “This season, he has come through really strongly.  Jürgen Klopp involved him, [Trent] Alexander-Arnold and Woodburn in pre-season, and I think they all gained a lot of experience from it and a lot of confidence as well.

      “They have just all got to build on that now.  But clearly they are three Jürgen Klopp thinks could become really good players in the fullness of time.”

      On a seperate note it seems the England Youth set up are determined to break our best players. 

      After ruining Rossiter when he was played 3 times in less than a week, they've gone and done exactly the same with TAA. 

      3 games in 5 days, again!!  Fair enough he's not injured himself doing so but are they really that f**king useless that they think this is acceptable?

      A horrible horrible incestuous setup is the England setup. Just found out that creep Aidy Boothroyd only got in his positions as U19 and U21 coach because he was "technical director" Dan Ashworth's best man at his wedding.
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      Re: Ovie Ejaria Player Thread
      Reply #78: Nov 22, 2016 06:44:33 pm
      A horrible horrible incestuous setup is the England setup. Just found out that creep Aidy Boothroyd only got in his positions as U19 and U21 coach because he was "technical director" Dan Ashworth's best man at his wedding.

      Don't think that's the only reason
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      Reply #79: Nov 22, 2016 07:10:09 pm
      Don't think that's the only reason

      Didn't ask for your hot air pal.

      The point I was making is underlining just how unqualified/poor the coaches in the England youth setup are and how they aren't even there on merit. So don't expect them to handle our players well.
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      Reply #80: Nov 22, 2016 07:15:06 pm
      A horrible horrible incestuous setup is the England setup. Just found out that creep Aidy Boothroyd only got in his positions as U19 and U21 coach because he was "technical director" Dan Ashworth's best man at his wedding.

      It seems Dan Ashworth has had a lot of influence over recent England recruitment, (I know it's part of his job) most of it based on his associations with West Brom.  That bastion of footballing excellence that has won so much over the last.................... ..when did they win anything?

      Aidy Boothroyd.  Keith Downing.  Roy Hodgson.  All ex Baggies coaches/managers, all gone on to become senior personnel within the England set up. 

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      Reply #81: Nov 22, 2016 07:36:39 pm
      And the FA wonders why so many clubs withdraw their players from different age groups. Inept fuckers!
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      Reply #82: Nov 22, 2016 07:42:54 pm
      It seems Dan Ashworth has had a lot of influence over recent England recruitment, (I know it's part of his job) most of it based on his associations with West Brom.  That bastion of footballing excellence that has won so much over the last.................... ..when did they win anything?

      Aidy Boothroyd.  Keith Downing.  Roy Hodgson.  All ex Baggies coaches/managers, all gone on to become senior personnel within the England set up. 



      He's an absolute gimp of a man. It beggars belief how West Brom's technical director then gets to influence the direction of football within England. I think the clubs have done a lot to produce some very talented English youngsters of late but all that considered I have never seen the national game in a poorer state. All the good work they do with their clubs gets thrown into the mincer that is the England setup where they are taught some trite out of date football and treated with a shocking disregard for their own fitness. That Ashworth continues to posture in his role with no credentials, that he remains totally unaccountable for the failings and mistreatment of players across the last few years is astonishing.
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      Reply #83: Nov 22, 2016 08:17:12 pm
      He's an absolute gimp of a man. It beggars belief how West Brom's technical director then gets to influence the direction of football within England. I think the clubs have done a lot to produce some very talented English youngsters of late but all that considered I have never seen the national game in a poorer state. All the good work they do with their clubs gets thrown into the mincer that is the England setup where they are taught some trite out of date football and treated with a shocking disregard for their own fitness. That Ashworth continues to posture in his role with no credentials, that he remains totally unaccountable for the failings and mistreatment of players across the last few years is astonishing.

      It's a weird one mate. 

      We've all been discussing how Stevie G should start at the Academy, coaching the kids and gaining experience with them before thinking of going into management but there's a world of difference between coaching and developing young players and managing seasoned pros. 

      We have some amazing youth coaches in our Academy, coaches that have worked with young players for years and worked at some of the best Academy's in Europe yet the England youth coaches are washed up, has beens that maybe had a couple of years at youth level, whilst doing their badges, after finishing their playing careers before moving onto lower league management jobs and failing miserably.

      Cheltenham, West Brom, Watford, Colchester, Coventry and Northampton are where these guys plied their trade in management before being recruited to the England jobs.  How on earth can these guys instill anything worthwhile into talented young players that train with some of the best around on a daily basis?

      As for Ashworth, this is his illustrious footballing history from his wiki page

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      Dan Ashworth is an English former professional footballer, who began his career at Norwich City.  He studied at the College of West Anglia from 1987-1989.

      Ashworth continued to be involved with football after retiring as a player, and was appointed academy director at Peterborough United in 2000.  In 2001 he went on to become center of excellence director at Cambridge United until March 2004 went moved to West Bromwich Albion assisting youth team manager Aidy Boothroyd.  After Boothroyd's departure in the July of that year he took over as youth team manager until he was promoted to the club's sporting and technical director in December 2007.

      On 17 September 2012, Ashworth was appointed as the FA director of elite development.

      I have absolutely no idea how the FA think that having this lot in control of English footballs future is going to produce results.

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      Reply #84: Nov 22, 2016 08:20:39 pm
      And the FA wonders why so many clubs withdraw their players from different age groups. Inept fuckers!

      Exactly mate.  What's worse is that when they do withdraw, they then don't get picked again so it's hardly a wonder why so few of Englands youth team players never make it to the seniors.  They're only being played because others dropped out.

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      Reply #85: Nov 22, 2016 08:57:59 pm
      Didn't ask for your hot air pal.

      The point I was making is underlining just how unqualified/poor the coaches in the England youth setup are and how they aren't even there on merit. So don't expect them to handle our players well.

      Just say that then. Aidy Boothroyd actually has a long well recognised career in youth development and managed in the PL in his mid 30s what are you expecting from an u20s manager?
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      Re: Ovie Ejaria Player Thread
      Reply #86: Nov 22, 2016 09:16:07 pm
      I thought Ejaria had hurt himself or something with all the posts in here.
                                                                     Did i miss the west brom conspiracy to get liverpool by infiltrating england and using our players? some tinfoil stuff in here.Woodburn played 3 games for wales,the teams only had an 18 man squad so as few would have to play all games and all over europe they played the same schedule.I don't like the snobbery of having a pop at coaches for not playing or coaching at a high level.Our coaching staff is mostly  from the same background.
                    Have a look at Ejaria in the highlights from the Reading game.
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      Re: Ovie Ejaria Player Thread
      Reply #87: Jan 08, 2017 07:47:12 pm
      He's a good player this lad, and IMHO has probably the most chance of making it as a top level Premier League player out of the youngsters we saw today. Has a wee bit of a young Patrick Vierra about him.
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      Reply #88: Jan 09, 2017 09:14:31 pm
      He's a good player this lad, and IMHO has probably the most chance of making it as a top level Premier League player out of the youngsters we saw today. Has a wee bit of a young Patrick Vierra about him.

      He does!! I would actually have him ahead of Can tbh.
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      Reply #89: Jan 28, 2017 02:44:51 pm
      Exempt from criticism today in my eyes

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