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      Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread

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      Shabs
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #225: Jan 19, 2018 11:21:55 am
      I remember watching Coutinho when Rafa had Inter Milan. He used him as an 18 yr old quite a bit. That was a team full of seasoned professionals of high quality (unfortunately bloated with age and weary). The point is, he did a good job when given the task. Rafa was somewhat forced to use Phil because the rest of the team (apart from Eto ) had mutinied. Maybe now Phil's gone it is time to give Woodburn the same opportunity. Not all the time but in some matches, give him a go.

      I think the lead would excel in the team surrounded by the quality we have... Some quality players to learn from.
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #226: Jan 19, 2018 08:46:38 pm
      Torn here.

      Really want to see someone come in with the Phil money but also really want to see more of Woodburn in the team. Don't think you can have both.
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #227: Jan 19, 2018 11:08:04 pm
      Torn here.

      Really want to see someone come in with the Phil money but also really want to see more of Woodburn in the team. Don't think you can have both.

      Still not sure what position he would be best suited to in order have a good career with us.
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #228: Jan 20, 2018 09:47:17 am
      Still not sure what position he would be best suited to in order have a good career with us.
      Forward. Same reason as Coutinho, too small to offer much midfield protection for defence. I don't like deep play makers who can't defend either, it's like having 10.5 men. To me Coutinho was always going to end up being a forward because he's so s**t at ariel duels and tackles etc... In my opinion anybody can't can't win the ball needs to be supplied the ball, so a forward. Ben Woodburn is like a young Coutinho in style of football, he needs to just get on our wing, we either buy somebody else and loan Woodburn or use him because he has proven he's talented.
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #229: Jan 20, 2018 10:25:39 am
      Still not sure what position he would be best suited to in order have a good career with us.

      I think he’s a CAM all day long.

      Talented boy - delighted he’s staying and will see a bit more game time.
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #230: Jan 20, 2018 03:44:29 pm
      I think he’s a CAM all day long.

      Talented boy - delighted he’s staying and will see a bit more game time.
      maybe #10 is closest he can be to an ATM, but we don't use #10 in 433. Unless we have a very good DM, then ATM with woodburn leaves us exposed. Not being funny but I know you're a Hendonite, but most people don't think we have a good enough DM to go playing Woodburn as ATM. I'm not saying Woodburn can't be ATM, but we would need somebody at Kante's level behind him.

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      This would work when Lallana or Mane neee a rest. His loan is off because Coutinho has gone, it's him he's going to be covering.

      In that system he can have Ox, Can and Lallana behind him as opposed to being part of the midfield where he'll have additional responsibilities.
      « Last Edit: Jan 20, 2018 04:05:52 pm by Ribapuru »
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #231: Jan 23, 2018 01:31:07 pm
      Hope he gets game time against Albion we need to get him up to speed if there is no more incoming s which is looking like the case.

      I don't want to see Gini with Can against the Bus parkers.
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #232: Jan 23, 2018 03:59:41 pm
      Hope he gets game time against Albion we need to get him up to speed if there is no more incoming s which is looking like the case.

      I don't want to see Gini with Can against the Bus parkers.

      I would actually look to sacrifice either Lallana or Ox and keep Can/Hendo and Wijnaldum/Milner on at times for Woodburn to have less defensive responsibility and more freedom to create.
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #233: Jan 24, 2018 09:21:09 pm
      Definitely hope Klopp's decision means we are going to see more of him. I've been a little mystified at how little he's featured this season, but my understanding is that He is being taught more of a midfield role (more the Gini/Milner/Keita role than the Ox or Lallana role - I don't think those latter two will sit in favor of Ben this season). That said, it may be the forward line where he will have more chances to sub on the rest of the way this year.

      My fear is that we're not seeing him because Klopp thinks he is regressing. Hopefully that isn't it.
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #234: Jan 24, 2018 09:53:55 pm
      Definitely hope Klopp's decision means we are going to see more of him. I've been a little mystified at how little he's featured this season, but my understanding is that He is being taught more of a midfield role (more the Gini/Milner/Keita role than the Ox or Lallana role - I don't think those latter two will sit in favor of Ben this season). That said, it may be the forward line where he will have more chances to sub on the rest of the way this year.

      My fear is that we're not seeing him because Klopp thinks he is regressing. Hopefully that isn't it.


      I think he has been protecting him more than anything....Gomez and Trent have been used as much as they have out of necessity; If Clyne was healthy I doubt we would have seen them as much.
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #235: Jan 24, 2018 09:54:26 pm
      I think he has been protecting him more than anything....Gomez and Trent have been used as much as they have out of necessity; If Clyne was healthy I doubt we would have seen them as much.

      Spot on for me.
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #236: Jan 25, 2018 12:22:00 am
      I think he has been protecting him more than anything....Gomez and Trent have been used as much as they have out of necessity; If Clyne was healthy I doubt we would have seen them as much.

      Hope so, but I do see 18-year olds around the world playing a major role - Christian Pulisic played regularly as an 18-year old - and of course we have Owen, Fowler and McManaman as players who were thrown in by then.
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #237: Jan 25, 2018 12:28:59 am
      Hope so, but I do see 18-year olds around the world playing a major role - Christian Pulisic played regularly as an 18-year old - and of course we have Owen, Fowler and McManaman as players who were thrown in by then.


      If there is one critisism of Jürgen he doesn't introduce young players early into a winning team.

      So Ben could have had some minutes towards the end of some of those trouncings handed out.

      There again Jürgen may have misbelieved that FSG have opened the purse strings seeing VVD arriving!

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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #238: Jan 25, 2018 03:27:44 pm
      Would be great to see Woodburn get a run out on Saturday. Aside from all the desires for glory and all that, one of the things I want to see out of Klopp's time at the club here is to produce a run of talent from the youth ranks that is comparable to decades past. In 5-10 years time I'd love to see a superbly crafted first eleven led by TAA, Woodburn and hopefully a few more up and coming youngsters.
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #239: Feb 02, 2018 06:53:56 am
      When he didn't go out on loan I figured he must have some role to play with the first team for the remainder of the season. We've barely seen him this season (except for Wales) and we're out of the Cup so I'm just wondering when he is going to play or make a squad? If he doesn't play it's a bit of a head scratcher for me. The lad needs to play and under U23s football really is a bag of shi...te.
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #240: Mar 14, 2018 01:53:26 pm
      Playing at center forward today with the U19s.

      Wondering if maybe he has leveled off a bit this season. Hope not.
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #241: Mar 14, 2018 03:47:39 pm
      He was wicked ill a few weeks back,question whether he should of been playing at all.He didn't look up for it and it was him that turned his back on their equalizer.
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #242: Apr 14, 2018 07:47:49 pm
      What is going on with Woodburn? He is not getting 10 minutes when we are 2 nill up.
      Solanke has not taken his chance but Woodburn is behind Solanke right now.
      We have West Brom next, if we are leading and Woodburn doesn't even get 10 minutes I am not sure what it means for him in the future. He is unlikely to get minutes next season unless Carling Cup. Usually players who go out on loan don't make it here.
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #243: Apr 15, 2018 08:10:02 am
      He is injured .
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #244: Apr 15, 2018 08:24:56 am

      He was on the bench yesterday ???
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #245: Apr 15, 2018 04:17:07 pm
      He was on the bench against City too I think, might have been the game between City games if not.
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #246: Apr 15, 2018 04:31:39 pm
      He was on the bench against City too I think, might have been the game between City games if not.

      I don't think he was on the bench for either City game or the Derby.

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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #247: Apr 15, 2018 04:44:34 pm
      I don't think he was on the bench for either City game or the Derby.
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43632218

      Against City

      1 Karius
      66 Alexander-Arnold Booked at 29 mins Substituted for Clyne at 81'minutes
      6 Lovren
      4 van DijkBooked at 65mins
      26 Robertson
      21 Oxlade-Chamberlain
      5 Wijnaldum
      7 Milner
      11 Salah Substituted for Ings at 89'minutes
      9 Firmino Booked at 35 mins Substituted for Klavan at 81'minutes
      19 Mané Booked at 14 mins

      Substitutes

      2 Clyne
      17 Klavan
      18 Moreno
      22 Mignolet
      28 Ings
      29 Solanke
      58 Woodburn


      You can see he was on the bench in the second leg against City.
      I knew he was on the bench for the Derby or City game, I just couldn't remember which so I spoke factual.
      You on the other hand, clouded facts with incorrect assumptions. Please be a bit more careful before dismissing things.
      « Last Edit: Apr 15, 2018 04:49:24 pm by Ribapuru »
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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #248: Apr 15, 2018 05:02:20 pm
      Really like Woodburn, but do you guys think our style of football suits him? I don't :(  I am actually surprised he was ahead of Wilson last couple of years as Wilson is more a Klopp type player.

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      Re: Benjamin Woodburn Player Thread
      Reply #249: May 07, 2018 08:30:37 am
      I wonder if he has a future under Klopp? Given our injury troubles it baffles me a bit that hasn't had one mi ute of senior football over the last 2 months. It's a shame because he showed more in this two appearances for Wales last September than Solanke has shown all season.

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