Lazar Markovic - Sporting and others

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If he was to go that would suggest Milner will be our option for the right wing. Happy with that.

I have really wanted Marko to succeed but watching him being outshone by the likes of Woodburn and Kent suggests his time might be up here.

Another failure [football wise, that is].   

Damn. This one really did not work out.

Pity. I thought we could use him this season but he failed to impress Klopp. We still lack pace behind the striker IMO.

Another one in the list of players who were "misused" by Rodgers but who Jürgen doesn't seem to fancy either.

He's going to get sold for peanuts isn't he. Can see it coming.

Pity. I thought we could use him this season but he failed to impress Klopp. We still lack pace behind the striker IMO.

We have Mane and if needed Ojo on the right.

He's going to get sold for peanuts isn't he. Can see it coming.

Well I'd be surprised if we get much for him mate, he's pretty average when all said and done and totally unsuited to English football as well.

No, wouldn't sell him this season, if we don't get a silly bid.

Still young, the talent and pace is there. Let's wait a season and see what jk gets out of him.

I doubt we sell him for peanuts more likely if we don't get a decent bid he will be loaned out.

Another one in the list of players who were "misused" by Rodgers but who Jürgen doesn't seem to fancy either.

Give it a F***ing rest

Sell to the highest bidder, can't see him being an integral part in Jürgen's team the whole season, I'd take £15m for him but nothing less.


YNWA

I'd take £100 for him. I'm better at football than this kid.

Hang on a moment, do we know for a fact that Klopp doesn't fancy him as a player or this just speculation?

Give it a f**king rest

The day I take advice from your good self on what to post, when to post and how to post on a football forum I'll give up altogether. I do read your stuff about Croatian players with interest though, keep that coming at least.

Sell to the highest bidder, can't see him being an integral part in Jürgen's team the whole season, I'd take £15m for him but nothing less.


YNWA

We'll be lucky to get anything close to that from a Portuguese team.

We'll be lucky to get anything close to that from a Portuguese team.

Have to think selling Joao Mario to Inter they will have a little bit of cash to spend. Personally I would like to see him stay for the season to get a shot at establishing himself at the club but I get the feeling if the club can recoup a good chuck of money that they paid for him a couple years ago they will sell off

He was totally anonymous in the Fleetwood game, if he's nothing else he's consistent.

So for our front four, how do you see it stacking up in terms of pecking order?

Sturridge has to be the first choice center forward, doesn't he. I gather Origi is then the next choice there.

We've seen Mane on the right and the left so far, and Phil can play both sides as well, and both of these can play behind the striker.

Roberto can play both sides, behind the striker and center forward as well. Lallana can play both sides, right? Same with Milner? Same with Ojo?

So Markkovic makes a ninth player competing for four positions on the park. I should note that how the midfielders are positioned can effect this too. Grujic seemed to be more the attacking mid than the 2nd central mid the other day, but I think we see him as playing box to box rather than behind the striker, yes?

It's good to have attacking options, but Klopp may feel Markovic will need to really knocks his socks off to warrant keeping a place here. I don't think he's dreadful the way some of you do, but I agree he hasn't really turned any heads so far this preseason. There's always Sunday...

We'll be lucky to get anything close to that from a Portuguese team.

The new President of Sporting, Bruno de Carvalho has an extremely strong desire to win the league as soon as possible and will be a lot more willing to spend the money to do so than Presidents of the past who have seen the club as more of a team for developing talent and selling off and then reinvesting that money in youth setups, camps, etc that were responsible for developing some of the best in the world.

As a result of this, he's a lot less likely to let players go on the cheap and is a lot more likely to spend the money required to get his championship in the now. More similar to how Benfica and Porto have been operating over the last decades already.

Long story short, I can easily see Sporting being willing to spend that kind of money if it's a player they have faith in to improve the squad - especially with Joao Mario set to head out and surely more to come (William Carvalho, Adrien, etc).

The new President of Sporting, Bruno de Carvalho has an extremely strong desire to win the league as soon as possible and will be a lot more willing to spend the money to do so than Presidents of the past who have seen the club as more of a team for developing talent and selling off and then reinvesting that money in youth setups, camps, etc that were responsible for developing some of the best in the world.

As a result of this, he's a lot less likely to let players go on the cheap and is a lot more likely to spend the money required to get his championship in the now. More similar to how Benfica and Porto have been operating over the last decades already.

Long story short, I can easily see Sporting being willing to spend that kind of money if it's a player they have faith in to improve the squad - especially with Joao Mario set to head out and surely more to come (William Carvalho, Adrien, etc).

You say the old President was one for developing then selling off but then you say the current President is also looking to sell off what seem like some very important players for Sporting. Doesn't seem to be any change at all if that's the case.

I'm a bit disappointed it didn't work out for him.

Felt Rodgers shunted him out to unnatural positions and the bench because he was a Committee man. Saw flashes of what he can offer but again was disappointed to see him go out on loan, especially given how short we ended up in attack Rodgers last full season. 

Was a bit of a worry when he seemed to not really be setting the world alight in Turkey, expected him to be one of the better players in one of the best teams.

Huge potential and hype when he played at Benfica and in his home country, but it's really hard to see that anymore. Probably best to let him go.

sorry to see a young player not make it but I am happier to get shut of any player who cannot contribute

sorry to see a young player not make it but I am happier to get shut of any player who cannot contribute

I feel sometimes though that it takes some players a little longer to get used to football in a certain league than it does with others. Considering Markovic has only had one season in the Prem it seems a bit premature does it not?

Another royal F**k-Up by the Transfer Committee.

Hope Lazar realises his potential at his next club he has plenty of it.

Felt it was madness buying him and Lallana in the same window.

Could see this ending up going one way once he was binned off on loan to Turkey.

Remember J.D. compared buying him to Aquilani, I agreed then and still do. Hopefully we can sell him for a reasonable fee and only lose half what we paid for him.

Also a demonstration (along with Ibe) for those that need it, that even Jürgen can't turn water into wine

Remember J.D. compared buying him to Aquilani, I agreed then and still do. Hopefully we can sell him for a reasonable fee and only lose half what we paid for him.

Also a demonstration (along with Ibe) for those that need it, that even Jürgen can't turn water into wine

Is anyone saying that though, I don't see it. He's had very few training sessions with Markovic and he's made a judgement call that he's not good enough, it's that simple isn't it?

I don't believe anyone thinks Jürgen can give Balotelli the hunger and desire of Ings or give Lallana the finishing of Fowler. The suggestion is he can get more out of players than other coaches, not perform miracles.

There's a difference between development and transformation as well you know and I'd have thought it clear anyone saying Jürgen is a better manager than x,y,z are not suggesting he could turn a team of none-league players into Champions League winners.

There does seem to be a strange trend of using the previous manager's failures as demonstration of Jürgen's inability to draw more out of them. It's odd because I would have thought if Jürgen sells one of the previous manager's players it's because he thinks he should never have been bought which most of us would probably agree with. Certainly in the cases of Balotelli, Alberto etc, but no it's his inability to perform miracles that we're highlighting?

Jürgen's had a season deciding which players are worth investing his time and which aren't. The likes of Lovren/Can/Firmino etc should be the barometer of how we judge Jürgen's influence not those he simply thinks are beyond redemption.

I'd personally prefer if we judged his ability on his own players and players he does see potential in before suggesting what his limitations are. For instance in Markovic's case I believe that he sees Mane and Coutinho as his wider players therefore Markovic isn't in the first choice XI, behind that are Lallana, Ojo and Kent who, especially the latter pair, he feels he can work with and develop. So just maybe Jürgen feels he has enough talent to work with and time invested in Markovic would simply be wasted therefore the decision is simple.

Also a demonstration (along with Ibe) for those that need it, that even Jürgen can't turn water into wine

Indeed s@int... the old 'polish a turd' themed debates, I remember them really well.

So... anyhows... Jürgen will be starting the season with players he rates. Just like Brendan - he doesn't rate Lazar. Rodgers got some flack for not playing him; Jürgen won't.

 It's that true; it's that simple.

There's no need to rewrite history or paint it any other way.

I am often extremely patient with our underperforming players, but I'll get anything for him just to get rid. Terrible player that couldn't even impress in the mighty Turkish League. He has literally shown zero signs that he is a decent player. He is not even good in those youtube snippets where everyone looks like a worldie. One of the worst buys in our history.

It felt like his whole LFC career literally hinged on that red card he got for scratching that dude with his fingernail. Very unlucky

Good. He was sh*te apart from one game against Sunderland.

Got exposed in a tougher league and couldn't handle it. Can't run with your head down in to dead-ends and expect to be a success.

I still can't forget that lay-off he made for Raheem when 2 on 1 vs the keeper against Arsenal. Instead of going up 1-0 we got thumped.

Alberto Aquilani part 2 get rid.

Nowhere good enough for Liverpool, waste of money, get rid

One of the worst buys in our history.

Still doesn't top the arsehole that was Diouf!!

https://twitter.com/anfieldhq/status/755725001169526784

https://twitter.com/anfieldhq/status/755725001169526784

I wonder if he plays today or if this has progressed to "keep him safe" mode.

https://twitter.com/anfieldhq/status/755725001169526784

Potential replacement for Leroy Sane, who is close to joining City for £45m !!
That move there, relegates Sterling to the bench. Nolito-Aguero-Sane will be Pep's front 3 and Silva-Gundogan-KdB will be the mid 3!!

On Lazar, this move might help as he will be under Jorge Jesus again!

Potential replacement for Leroy Sane, who is close to joining City for £45m !!

That move there, relegates Sterling to the bench. Nolito-Aguero-Sane will be Pep's front 3 and Silva-Gundogan-KdB will be the mid 3!!

And going by performances, is exactly where Sterling belongs! Been woeful for club and country. Back to Lazar though, I think it's a missed opportunity on both parts. But to be honest, he's looked like he can't be arsed.

Potential replacement for Leroy Sane, who is close to joining City for £45m !!
That move there, relegates Sterling to the bench. Nolito-Aguero-Sane will be Pep's front 3 and Silva-Gundogan-KdB will be the mid 3!!

On Lazar, this move might help as he will be under Jorge Jesus again!

good luck to Pep that midfield will get run over by most teams.

I was thrilled when we signed him.  Saw a decent bit of him at Benfica and he seemed like he had the world at his feet. 

I'll be thrilled when we sell him.  He hasn't progressed, doesn't look like he wants to be here, and isn't a Klopp style player. 

good luck to Pep that midfield will get run over by most teams.

Not to mention no one knows when or what condition Gundogan will be in after his knee injury.

Still convinced there's a player in there, but he seems to have hit a wall in his development.

A move away could do him the world of good, and maybe he can get some confidence back.

He's still only 22, but like many, I would expected him to kick on a bit.
The fact that he hasn't could have many reasons, but I suspect confidence has a lot to do with it.

He's not the first highly rated young player to come unstuck after a big move, and he won't be the last.

Was excited when we signed him, though I thought it was too much $$ and too soon for him as he was still so young.  Unfortunately his confidence is shot and he hasn't progressed at all.  Time is on his side, so hopefully he can right the ship.  I'd much rather loan him again and reassess next year when we should have Europe and more matches to contend with.  I think Klopp can make a player of him as I think he has the skill set to play in his system.  Just may be too little too late to salvage his Anfield career and a transfer wouldn't surprise me.

I was thrilled when we signed him.

Me too Harry; one for the future I thought but that's now two [Liverpool] managers who didn't/don't fancy him. We did get this one wrong buddy but at least we aren't getting paid for our 'knowledge'. 

From day one has disappointed. Needs a balls transplant. Can't see a lightweight like him in Klopp's plans. Talked a good game when he arrived, hopefully he can talk his way into a new contract with another club as soon as possible,

I still can't see the potential in him that so many believe he has.

Never rated him, be glad when he can no longer attempt to kick a ball in anger for us.

What we asking for him? About 5 mil?

From day one has disappointed. Needs a balls transplant. Can't see a lightweight like him in Klopp's plans. Talked a good game when he arrived, hopefully he can talk his way into a new contract with another club as soon as possible,

Yep, can't we offer him to blueshite, I'll even pay the taxi fare.


YNWA

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No doubt they will want to pay peanuts

If Milan want him then we should do a straight up swap, Markovic for De Sciglio. 

LB problem solved, Markovic gone.  Everyone's happy.

Probably a 3 year loan (through the end of his contract) with us paying 2/3 of his wages.  Milan will likely also insist that we pay a compensation fee if he misses games due to injury or suspension....   

Probably a 3 year loan (through the end of his contract) with us paying 2/3 of his wages.  Milan will likely also insist that we pay a compensation fee if he misses games due to injury or suspension....   

With the exception of Ian Rush our history of dealing with Italian clubs or players has not been the best.

If its true than  I hope the club will say to milan ,cash upfront or f*ck off
we have been scr*wed by these Italian clubs with transfers/loan deals enough .just hope we learned dealing with serieA clubs
agree with Fed though , a swap with de-Sciglio would be nice
YNWA

No doubt they will want to pay peanuts

Nah mate... they will promise to pay peanuts but then renage. 

No doubt they will want to pay peanuts

proven tactic with Italian teams... Take them on loan, with a option to buy at asked price, at the end of that loan period offer less than half of the asked price and never raise above it.... F^*k 'em

I was genuinely excited about this lad when he signed, but it hasn't worked out. It didn't work in his first season, it didn't work in Turkey and it's not even worked in pre season for the lad. Best for all involved to get rid, I don't see where he gets a game here, Ojo will surely jump ahead of him when he's fit again.

I was genuinely excited about this lad when he signed

Sincere question - why?

Sincere question - why?

He wasn't alone. Even after a season of watching him people were marding over him being loaned to Turkey. Every time he got an assist for them we were told how much we were missing out on such a talented player.

The man, the myth the let down.

Send the turkey back to Turkey .

He wasn't alone. Even after a season of watching him people were marding over him being loaned to Turkey. Every time he got an assist for them we were told how much we were missing out on such a talented player.

The man, the myth the let down.

I don't get it, mate. Was obvious early on he had plenty of work to do and by December it was clear he wasn't up to it.

One better than sh*te game against Sunderland and that's all.

I don't get it, mate. Was obvious early on he had plenty of work to do and by December it was clear he wasn't up to it.

One better than sh*te game against Sunderland and that's all.

I can only think that he was good on FM for them.

Send the turkey back to Turkey .

I don't know why that even made me laugh but it did .

Wonder if Benfica want to take back their old wonderkid for a quarter of what they sold him to us for.

Perhaps he's not even worth that .

Anyway at a time when I'm hoping for at least a new player in, it seems as though the club have a lot on their plate trying desperately to cut their losses on him, Sakho and Mario and probably a few more.

Deadline day could be a busy yet fruitful day for John Doubleya Henry and Co, a part of me wants me them all to stay just to piss them off.

https://twitter.com/anfieldhq/status/769278802186895361

Not another F***ing loan!

Not another f**king loan!

And to add insult to injury we will probably have to pay 95% of his wages.

And to add insult to injury we will probably have to pay 95% of his wages.

It's looking the same with Balotelli. Palermo are talking sh*t if they say they can only afford 11k a week, that'll mean we get left with a 69k a week bill.

It's looking the same with Balotelli. Palermo are talking sh*t if they say they can only afford 11k a week, that'll mean we get left with a 69k a week bill.

It's a pity we cannot sue the tw*t/s responsible for signing some of the trash we have signed in the last few years.

Rafa interested in taking Markovic on loan.

https://twitter.com/melissareddy_/status/770558574368006144

Looks like he is going to Sporting Lisbon on loan.