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      Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread

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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread
      Reply #675: Jan 27, 2019 04:58:19 pm
      Gini's had an outstanding season but Fernandinho definitely a level above.

      Not to my eyes.

      Gini is much more versatile.

      Fernandinho is in great form though and hugely important to City though.
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      Reply #676: Jan 27, 2019 08:17:43 pm
      Fernandino is not another level above, he is a snide b***ard who should get sent off every game for tactical fouls
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      Reply #677: Jan 27, 2019 08:29:18 pm
      Not for me he isn’t.

      Did play very well against us but I thought our midfield actually performed well against City.

      Nah he snuffed every single piece of danger out was head and shoulders above everyone that night
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      Reply #678: Jan 27, 2019 08:51:16 pm
      Nah he snuffed every single piece of danger out was head and shoulders above everyone that night

      Had a good game no argument but I think that’s a bit hyperbolic (personally).

      I still don’t think our midfield did badly though on the night - fine margins.
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      Reply #679: Jan 27, 2019 09:01:06 pm
      Remember fabinho coming on against city and pushing them back and they were hanging on a bit
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread
      Reply #680: Jan 27, 2019 09:08:37 pm
      Had a good game no argument but I think that’s a bit hyperbolic (personally).

      I still don’t think our midfield did badly though on the night - fine margins.

      Correct . A statement not meant to be taken literally just trying to get across my opinion
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      Reply #681: Jan 27, 2019 09:13:08 pm
      Correct . A statement not meant to be taken literally just trying to get across my opinion

      Understood.
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread
      Reply #682: Jan 27, 2019 09:15:11 pm
      Gini doesn’t play in the same position as Fernandinho so not fair comparing. Having said that it’s not fair comparing Gini to the two Silva’s  :D
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      Reply #683: Jan 28, 2019 03:27:14 am
      Taking off our rose tinted glasses think Fernandinho is better and in the recent match totally outclassed our Midfield

      Nah he snuffed every single piece of danger out was head and shoulders above everyone that night

      No he didn’t, we were dominated Bernardo Silva. If I remember rightly, Fernandinho lost possession more than any other player that day. Complete misconception that he dominated us that day, was far from it and if anything, it really takes away just how good Bernardo Silva was in that game.

      Also where was he when we were on top for the first half hour of the of the match? Where was he when we were so close to taking the lead? No where, absolutely nowhere to be seen.
      « Last Edit: Jan 28, 2019 03:32:19 am by 7-King Kenny-7 »
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      Reply #684: Jan 28, 2019 07:55:15 am
      No he didn’t, we were dominated Bernardo Silva. If I remember rightly, Fernandinho lost possession more than any other player that day. Complete misconception that he dominated us that day, was far from it and if anything, it really takes away just how good Bernardo Silva was in that game.

      Also where was he when we were on top for the first half hour of the of the match? Where was he when we were so close to taking the lead? No where, absolutely nowhere to be seen.

       Yeh that's right he was nowhere to be seen  :lmao: :lmao:
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      Reply #685: Jan 28, 2019 10:43:12 am
      Yeh that's right he was nowhere to be seen  :lmao: :lmao:

      Excellent reply...

      Where was he when we carved through them with such ease?
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      Reply #686: Jan 28, 2019 10:44:15 am
      Excellent reply...

      Where was he when we carved through them with such ease?

      Exactly - Wijnaldum for me all day. Top player
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread
      Reply #687: Jan 28, 2019 11:00:25 am
      Fernandino is not another level above, he is a snide b***ard who should get sent off every game for tactical fouls

      Maybe so but I'd still love to have him in our team. Having said that we have a very good midfield as well
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      Reply #688: Jan 28, 2019 11:03:06 am
      Remember fabinho coming on against city and pushing them back and they were hanging on a bit

      Which I why I wish we had started with him instead of Milner, the trio of Hendo, Gini and Milner just neg each other out for some reason and they all become very passive. I am positive that if we had started Fabinho, Hendo and Gini then we would have at least drawn that match but I guess we'll never know.
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread
      Reply #689: Jan 28, 2019 11:28:21 am
      Excellent reply...

      Where was he when we carved through them with such ease?

      We carved through them with ease once when we hit the post the goal came from a cross field pass totally away from his area your response that he was no where to be seen is complete and utter sh*te so either watch it again, drink weaker lager or just don't bother replying at all
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread
      Reply #690: Jan 28, 2019 11:32:53 am
      We carved through them with ease once when we hit the post the goal came from a cross field pass totally away from his area your response that he was no where to be seen is complete and utter sh*te so either watch it again, drink weaker lager or just don't bother replying at all

      So childish.

      Read what I said again - I said he was nowhere to be seen in the opening half hour of the match, which he wasn’t. Am I saying he was nowhere to be seen all match? No. Am I saying he had a sh*t game? No.

      I highlighted that he wasn’t actually their best player on the day and didn’t actually “snuff out” every bit of danger and you’ve gotten your knickers in a twist. So you read and comprehend my post properly, “or don’t bother replying at all”.
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      Reply #691: Jan 28, 2019 11:55:15 am
      So childish.

      Read what I said again - I said he was nowhere to be seen in the opening half hour of the match, which he wasn’t. Am I saying he was nowhere to be seen all match? No. Am I saying he had a sh*t game? No.

      I highlighted that he wasn’t actually their best player on the day and didn’t actually “snuff out” every bit of danger and you’ve gotten your knickers in a twist. So you read and comprehend my post properly, “or don’t bother replying at all”.
      You say he lost possesion more than other player which implies he had a sh*t game doesn't it?  As I explained my comment about snuffing every danger was not to be taken literally   .
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      Reply #692: Jan 28, 2019 11:59:39 am
      You say he lost possesion more than other player which implies he had a sh*t game doesn't it?  As I explained my comment about snuffing every danger was not to be taken literally   .

      No, it implies he was very sloppy in possession, not that he was sh*t. If I thought he had a sh*t game I’d have said he had a sh*t game. Salah has been sloppy in possession many times, doesn’t mean he’s had a sh*t game. There is more to a game than just possession or one individual aspect of a performance.

      Which is one of the reasons Gini has been so good this season, all the parts of his game have been at a consistently good level. He could chip in with more goals and assists from time to time but everything else he is spot on with. But you can bet that when he does score, it will be one hell of an important goal.
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      Reply #693: Jan 28, 2019 12:11:20 pm
      No, it implies he was very sloppy in possession, not that he was sh*t. If I thought he had a sh*t game I’d have said he had a sh*t game. Salah has been sloppy in possession many times, doesn’t mean he’s had a sh*t game. There is more to a game than just possession or one individual aspect of a performance.

      Which is one of the reasons Gini has been so good this season, all the parts of his game have been at a consistently good level. He could chip in with more goals and assists from time to time but everything else he is spot on with. But you can bet that when he does score, it will be one hell of an important goal.

      Fair enough and I agree think he has come on and his ability to retain possession is second to none but tackling, assists and incisive passing something he could improve on . In regards to the so called snide challenges Fernandinho makes then we don't do them nearly enough and have been done on a few occasions  where someone should have took one  for team
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread
      Reply #694: Jan 30, 2019 05:07:31 pm
      Is he back for the next game? Feels like it’s no coincidence we concede 3 at home when he wasn’t playing.

      Goes straight back in the 11 for me.

      It wasn't a coincidence. I think I posted the numbers in this player thread last season when people were questioning the impact he has on games.

      - We concede more without him in the team
      - We score less without him in the team
      - We pick up far fewer points without him starting

      https://statsbomb.com/2019/01/the-rise-of-press-resistant-midfielders/?fbclid=IwAR059s8Pn0H-8sfZVUZmgumfrBY9oSCVvYr_TRDQOKiW6knDMgZl2IkAzIo

      Interesting article. Talks about the likes of Moussa Dembele (former Spurs midfielder), a bit about Wijnaldum and Frenkie De Jong who recently got his move to Barcelona. A new 'breed' of midfielders.

      The writer mentions Wijnaldum not being as good as Dembele (in his prime so to speak), but I disagree with that. The ability to hold off opponents when they have the ball is insane.

      Love this bit as it is very relevant to Manchester City these days:

      "Bielsa had shown that, while Barcelona were great pressers themselves, they were not invulnerable to being pressed by opponents. Though the level of execution required was extremely high, a midfield heavily focused on passing could be pressed into submission."

      Managers who have the tactical knowledge/ability, like Bielsa, to set up their teams and have a go at City, can get something out of the game.
      « Last Edit: Jan 30, 2019 05:12:40 pm by Danzel »
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread
      Reply #695: Jan 30, 2019 11:49:22 pm
      Thought Wijnaldum was superb tonight in his usual role, but he/we needed someone equally as good as him on the attacking front. Shame we didn't have Fabinho next to him from the start :(
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread
      Reply #696: Jan 30, 2019 11:52:32 pm
      Thought Wijnaldum was superb tonight in his usual role, but he/we needed someone equally as good as him on the attacking front. Shame we didn't have Fabinho next to him from the start :(

      It is a shame we didn't start with Fabinho. I think we look a much better team with him. There might be another reason other than tactical that we didn't start with him.
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      Reply #697: Jan 30, 2019 11:54:06 pm
      It is a shame we didn't start with Fabinho. I think we look a much better team with him. There might be another reason other than tactical that we didn't start with him.

      I believe he only had one full training session before match day, and probably not 100% fit too.
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread
      Reply #698: Jan 31, 2019 02:12:19 am
      Had a solid game. I wish he put in a full blooded slide tackle on Abrighton before Robbo needlessly fouls him, he was at full pelt and allready caught up to him.
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread
      Reply #699: Jan 31, 2019 07:54:27 am
      One of the better players last night for me - really good

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