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      Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread (PSG)

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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread (PSG)
      Reply #1425: Jun 10, 2021 07:50:17 pm
      Depends on your thinking and shows why he wouldn’t sign the contract the club offered

      He’s doubled his money - looking for a big contract while he enters his last prime years. Plus he gets to work under a manager who likes to play attacking football and gets to play alongside some world class players.

      Yes the French league isn’t great, however I’m sure they can go deep in the champions league like they always do.

      I prefer him going to PSG over those cu*ts at Barca.
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      Reply #1426: Jun 10, 2021 07:52:52 pm
      Been a good servant and so reliable with injuries and performances that said he would I think have been spending more time on the bench next season so good timing shame we couldn't get a fee though
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread (PSG)
      Reply #1427: Jun 10, 2021 07:56:23 pm
      He’s doubled his money - looking for a big contract while he enters his last prime years. Plus he gets to work under a manager who likes to play attacking football and gets to play alongside some world class players.

      Yes the French league isn’t great, however I’m sure they can go deep in the champions league like they always do.

      I prefer him going to PSG over those cu*ts at Barca.


      Only reason he has gone to PSG , same as all the other players that go there
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      Reply #1428: Jun 10, 2021 08:21:00 pm

      Only reason he has gone to PSG , same as all the other players that go there

      Shame FSG wouldn’t offer him the terms PSG did..

      Lost a key player & a reliable one too..

      So you carry on with your spin it which way you like that Gini is a money grabber..
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      Reply #1429: Jun 10, 2021 08:35:35 pm
      Shame FSG wouldn’t offer him the terms PSG did..

      Lost a key player & a reliable one too..

      So you carry on with your spin it which way you like that Gini is a money grabber..

      Well, I mean he is. He was going to go to Barca for a better deal, then he got offered twice what Barca were going to offer him and he went there instead. I know you like him Shabs but this is pretty clearly an example of a player following the money. All signs point to it. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.....
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      Reply #1430: Jun 10, 2021 08:36:06 pm
      Shame FSG wouldn’t offer him the terms PSG did..

      Lost a key player & a reliable one too..

      So you carry on with your spin it which way you like that Gini is a money grabber..

      I agree, Wijnaldum has earned a bumper contract
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread (PSG)
      Reply #1431: Jun 10, 2021 08:39:08 pm
      Shame FSG wouldn’t offer him the terms PSG did..

      Lost a key player & a reliable one too..

      So you carry on with your spin it which way you like that Gini is a money grabber..

      Quite clearly the club felt he wasn’t worth £9mil a year “after tax” that he is being paid at PSG which was also higher than what Barcelona were offering him - he went to PSG for the huge wage on offer - no one can blame him , that’s why the players go there


      I like him - he was great for us but certainly not worth making him the best paid player at the club
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      Reply #1432: Jun 10, 2021 09:17:46 pm
      Depends on your thinking and shows why he wouldn’t sign the contract the club offered

      I mean this as a compliment to you but you can’t be that daft to think it’s as simple as that. You’re too smart to think this
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      Reply #1433: Jun 10, 2021 09:19:17 pm
      I mean this as a compliment to you but you can’t be that daft to think it’s as simple as that. You’re too smart to think this

       :f_doh:

      Why can it not be as simple as that - he was offered a contract by a couple of clubs and went with the one that gave him the higher wage
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread (PSG)
      Reply #1434: Jun 10, 2021 09:24:54 pm
      Shame FSG wouldn’t offer him the terms PSG did..

      Lost a key player & a reliable one too..

      So you carry on with your spin it which way you like that Gini is a money grabber..

      A fair bit more too it than that.

      I'm sad he's gone but when you think in the cold light of day it probably was the right decision given Gini probably wanted a long big money contract.

      We have a bunch of CM getting the wrong side of 30 and need to think about refreshing that area with younger blood for the future and after signing Thiago it doesn't make sense to spend big money tying Gini down when those wages can be used more productively.
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      Reply #1435: Jun 10, 2021 09:29:28 pm
      A fair bit more too it than that.

      I'm sad he's gone but when you think in the cold light of day it probably was the right decision given Gini probably wanted a long big money contract.

      We have a bunch of CM getting the wrong side of 30 and need to think about refreshing that area with younger blood for the future and after signing Thiago it doesn't make sense to spend big money tying Gini down when those wages can be used more productively.

      It was. The moment Thiago arrived it meant Gini was likely going to move on because we are not going to carry 3 key players in midfield all in their mid 30s. Contracts should be representative of future performance and not past performance, which can be overlooked in some cases (like Hendo, who should be with the team til he retires, however long past his peak that is) but no team can carry many "bad" contracts.

      Having Henderson, Thiago and Gini all 33-34 and on big wages would handcuff the team too much and the team needs to slowly start turning the team over to the new generation.
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread (PSG)
      Reply #1436: Jun 10, 2021 10:06:37 pm
      :f_doh:

      Why can it not be as simple as that - he was offered a contract by a couple of clubs and went with the one that gave him the higher wage

      I must have got you wrong

      Sorry
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread (PSG)
      Reply #1437: Jun 10, 2021 10:09:15 pm
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      Reply #1438: Jun 10, 2021 10:13:58 pm

      Ok why did he sign with the club offering him the highest wage ( by a considerable amount )
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread (PSG)
      Reply #1439: Jun 10, 2021 10:38:02 pm
      Ok why did he sign with the club offering him the highest wage ( by a considerable amount )

      You could argue he's going to a club with a better chance of winning the CL anyway, and certainly a club with a better manager (a manager who tried to sign him 5 years ago). Yes he took the higher wage but there's more to it than that nowadays with how average Barca look and the fact it could take them a few transfer windows to refresh their squad.
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread (PSG)
      Reply #1440: Jun 10, 2021 10:47:17 pm
      Obvious that FSG loathed to loose money on Gini but offered him below what he was worth... & now lost  Gini for nothing...

      Ok for FSG to increase their investments but how dare Gini try to get a deal that represent his status in a title winning team... 🙄
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread (PSG)
      Reply #1441: Jun 10, 2021 10:50:21 pm
      You could argue he's going to a club with a better chance of winning the CL anyway, and certainly a club with a better manager (a manager who tried to sign him 5 years ago). Yes he took the higher wage but there's more to it than that nowadays with how average Barca look and the fact it could take them a few transfer windows to refresh their squad.


      He was also offered a contract by us 🤷‍♂️


      His heart apparently was all set in Barcelona working with a hero until PSG came in with £9 mil after tax
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread (PSG)
      Reply #1442: Jun 10, 2021 10:52:22 pm
      Obvious that FSG loathed to loose money on Gini but offered him below what he was worth... & now lost  Gini for nothing...

      Ok for FSG to increase their investments but how dare Gini try to get a deal that represent his status in a title winning team... 🙄

      Why was it “obvious” - they offered him a contract at a length they thought was acceptable for his age - he turned it down and went with a club that offered him a significant amount of money. ( more than what we pay Salah )
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread (PSG)
      Reply #1443: Jun 10, 2021 11:00:43 pm
      Obvious that FSG loathed to loose money on Gini but offered him below what he was worth... & now lost  Gini for nothing...

      Ok for FSG to increase their investments but how dare Gini try to get a deal that represent his status in a title winning team... 🙄

      Agree that Gini is entitled to get the best deal he can at his age but for us as a club that probably wasn't in our best interests moving forward.

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      Reply #1444: Jun 10, 2021 11:04:35 pm
      Why was it “obvious” - they offered him a contract at a length they thought was acceptable for his age - he turned it down and went with a club that offered him a significant amount of money. ( more than what we pay Salah )

      You keep pushing this line, where have you got this from..?

      & what’s wrong with asking for parity in pay ..?



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      Reply #1445: Jun 10, 2021 11:17:38 pm
      You keep pushing this line, where have you got this from..?

      & what’s wrong with asking for parity in pay ..?

      https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thisisanfield.com/2021/06/wijnaldum-transfer-wages-psg-liverpool/amp/

      https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.si.com/soccer/liverpool/.amp/transfers/wijnaldum-signs-three-year-deal-with-psg

      £165k after tax - to get that in the UK would mean a basic wage of £310k a week , Mo gets £200k

      It’s also double what Barce offered


      Nothing wrong with asking for parity of pay - doesn’t mean the club should bow down to the demands .


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      Reply #1446: Jun 10, 2021 11:23:59 pm
      https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thisisanfield.com/2021/06/wijnaldum-transfer-wages-psg-liverpool/amp/

      https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.si.com/soccer/liverpool/.amp/transfers/wijnaldum-signs-three-year-deal-with-psg

      £165k after tax - to get that in the UK would mean a basic wage of £310k a week , Mo gets £200k

      It’s also double what Barce offered


      Nothing wrong with asking for parity of pay - doesn’t mean the club should bow down to the demands .




      Nothing factual in those speculated reports... only suggestions & guessing...
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread (PSG)
      Reply #1447: Jun 10, 2021 11:27:44 pm
      Nothing factual in those speculated reports... only suggestions & guessing...

      As a supporter I'd have given him a new contract.

      As an owner of the club I'm sure I'd have let him leave.

      I can see what he would have still brought to us if we kept him but also can see the rational in letting another over 30 CM leaving and using those wages elsewhere.
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      Reply #1448: Jun 10, 2021 11:29:48 pm
      Nothing factual in those speculated reports... only suggestions & guessing...

      Isn’t Romano a very well respected Journo who provides quite a lot of transfer news that turns out to be correct -


      That wage would put him alongside the other first team players in PSG team apart from Neymar and Mbappe so why would not expect them to offer it to Gini as well


      Gini was offered a new three contract with us but turned it down - he is a very good player but it should be clear to see why the club wouldn’t break the bank for him
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      Re: Georginio Wijnaldum Player Thread (PSG)
      Reply #1449: Jun 11, 2021 12:01:26 am
      If you said we could guarantee the Gini of the last 5 years for the next 3 years would you keep him the answer would be yes.

      However, I can see valid reasons not to go all out and match PSG for wages — his age, possibly his motivation if he’s on a last big payday (if he was so preoccupied with securing improved terms), the risk of tying up a big wage in such an important area of the pitch and the potential to limit the next generation from coming through, the energy levels and freshness you need to play in a Klopp team, the fact that we can only have so many older players in the squad.

      Then you look at Milner and say if he can do it why not Gini. Not as versatile, ok fair enough. It’s a tough one though I think. Not as key as some other players but still important enough that we better have a good plan to deal without him.

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